Does this "update" re-enables all the previous disabled tracking services and stuff? Anyone knows?

I've updated it yesterday evening (CET time). It went smoothly apart from antivirus which for some reason wasn't detected properly by Security Center (it still worked fine though). But quick reinstall fixed that. So far so good. I kinda like the changes. Especially visual ones. Few more such updates and the old Control Panel will slowly migrate into new Settings. Which is kinda nice. New UAC dialogs are also nice and Windows Defender now has a new mode "Periodic limited scan" which works in such a way that you use your antivirus as main product and Windows Defender remains as on-demand second scanner. So it doesn't affect performance, but may provide additional protection.

As for privacy, for me all settings remained the same, only few changed. You can control most of stuff under "Privacy" settings anyway. I just turned all off and make sure to also adjust feedback and reporting. You obviously won't be able to block all privacy issues in Win10.

Prima.VeraDoes this "update" re-enables all the previous disabled tracking services and stuff? Anyone knows?

Most likely. It seems any update reverts several settings.

Yeah, I just had to go through and change a bunch of settings. Kinda annoying if you ask me.

EDIT: It also reset my audio levels as well.

That's because it re-installs all drivers and stuff... I had my Sound Blaster Z settings reset as well.

privacy issues my ass.

I don't think people should have been worrying about the "major privacy issues" unless you were doing some shady shit.

TheLegendI don't think people should have been worrying about the "major privacy issues" unless you were doing some shady shit.

Here we go again.

Some people live on the wild side. Or they dream they do :) Those few that are really into anonimous stuff know their shit well and do not post on open forums :)

TheLegendprivacy issues my ass.

I don't think people should have been worrying about the "major privacy issues" unless you were doing some shady shit.

Ever heard of "mishandling" of harvested data. Maybe company has good intentions, others don't. If there is no data being harvested, there is also very unlikely for it to be "mishandled". I perfectly well understand the need for telemtry data and feedback from systems to ensure reliability and compatibility, but there are ways to anonymize such stuff on client side before it leaves the system as well as make it under clear and full user control. Collecting everything people type, capturing their desktops in intervals with an excuse that it's needed to "enhance the experience" is total nonsense.

This should especially apply since Microsoft holds total monopoly over operating systems. Sure, you have Linux. But you can't game with it, 3/4 of apps aren't available for it and it's clumsy as fuck. Sorry, but it just is. Still, despite everyone screaming how awesome it is. It just isn't. Been trying to use it for a decade and I always return to Windows. Which sucks in a way, but that's how it is.

If they resolved privacy issues and give users full control and get Windows Update back to how it was in Windows 7/8.1 (just with forced critical updates, but not extra software and drivers), EVERYONE would flock to upgrade to Windows 10 immediately. But with so much nonsense pilled up, people understanadbly hesitate to upgrade.

TheLegendprivacy issues my ass.

I don't think people should have been worrying about the "major privacy issues" unless you were doing some shady shit.

Another way to think of it.

Pre windows 10 you had a personal computer.

Now you have a computer that reports "stuff" back to Microsoft and who knows who.
So if your running windows 10 you don't have a PC.

It is so easy that it's not worth mentioning, but you can opt-out of the whole, just don't use any accounts etc.
But... how many people really do "log out" of Facebook or Gmail before they surf to other sites or close the browser?
Are you willing to have paid e-mail services (they do exist!) that do not "monetarize" with your stuff?
Etc...

TheLegendprivacy issues my ass.

I don't think people should have been worrying about the "major privacy issues" unless you were doing some shady shit.

That's what they want the sheep to believe, you keep repeating that mantra, they want you to be a follower.

If I have deferred updates on will it be a little while before mine updates?

Hopefully I've got time tonight to create a system image and if the update all goes tits up I've got a back up.

Have Microsoft released a new publicly downloadable iso file to go with it?

FinnersIf I have deferred updates on will it be a little while before mine updates?

Hopefully I've got time tonight to create a system image and if the update all goes tits up I've got a back up.

It's pretty well tested at this point (it's been available to insiders for like 3 months now). So unless you have some particular setup, you should be fine.
Fwiw I've updated just fine, but a desktop with 2 HDDs and 3 SSDs is probably a pretty standard setup.

erixxIt is so easy that it's not worth mentioning, but you can opt-out of the whole, just don't use any accounts etc.
But... how many people really do "log out" of Facebook or Gmail before they surf to other sites or close the browser?
Are you willing to have paid e-mail services (they do exist!) that do not "monetarize" with your stuff?
Etc...

ProtonMail and Tutanota are both free and both have a mobile app.

erixxIt is so easy that it's not worth mentioning, but you can opt-out of the whole, just don't use any accounts etc.
But... how many people really do "log out" of Facebook or Gmail before they surf to other sites or close the browser?
Are you willing to have paid e-mail services (they do exist!) that do not "monetarize" with your stuff?
Etc...

e-mail service and OS is not the same. With e-mail, I willingly decide what I potentially give away to lets say Google. With OS, everything you do on it can potentially be a privacy risk. If I then can't do something because it can be a privacy risk, what's the point of the OS then? Besides, Google stuff is free. People pay 250€ for Pro version of Windows 10 as retail. And then they harvest your data like wheat. Nope. Give it away free and then harvest my data all you want.

RejZoRe-mail service and OS is not the same. With e-mail, I willingly decide what I potentially give away to lets say Google. With OS, everything you do on it can potentially be a privacy risk. If I then can't do something because it can be a privacy risk, what's the point of the OS then? Besides, Google stuff is free. People pay 250€ for Pro version of Windows 10 as retail. And then they harvest your data like wheat. Nope. Give it away free and then harvest my data all you want.

Gee, I'm happy you weren't so upset when Microsoft started to collect data on crashes, leading them to discover most blue screen were caused by crappy drivers.
You don't want to share your data? Don't use a Microsoft account, don't use Cortana, disable whatever data sharing comes enabled by default. But I fail to see what whining on TPU is supposed to accomplish.

Seems this update might have finally killed AGP graphics support which was working fine in 10586 (1511 aka Threshold 2) as the Microsoft CPU to AGP controller driver seems to be gone from both my Intel 865G and VIA PT880 Ultra based systems, guess I'll be rolling back to 10586 somehow and freezing it on that build.

answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware/error-windows-has-stopped-this-device-because-it/d78465fa-80c4-4695-b8e8-41f9fa6eb4f7

bugGee, I'm happy you weren't so upset when Microsoft started to collect data on crashes, leading them to discover most blue screen were caused by crappy drivers.
You don't want to share your data? Don't use a Microsoft account, don't use Cortana, disable whatever data sharing comes enabled by default. But I fail to see what whining on TPU is supposed to accomplish.

There is a big difference between crash minidumps collection and/or anonymized telemetry and just grabbing everything you type. I don't care if Microsoft sees that my nvddm.sys driver crashes 500 times in C:\Windows\System32 folder. In fact, that's preferable.

Not using Microsoft Account does pretty much nothing to privacy. OS still sends large amounts of data to external services. The thing should be easy enough for user to cut all data harvesting if he/she decides so.

What good is Bitlocker lol if Microsoft is harvesting youzr data while everything is unlocked lol

Updating now.... Hopefully I die in a fiery car crash before I get home from work, that way I won't have to see what they've done to my computer--oh, I'm sorry "This PC" because it's not "My Computer" anymore.

RejZoRThere is a big difference between crash minidumps collection and/or anonymized telemetry and just grabbing everything you type. I don't care if Microsoft sees that my nvddm.sys driver crashes 500 times in C:\Windows\System32 folder. In fact, that's preferable.

Not using Microsoft Account does pretty much nothing to privacy. OS still sends large amounts of data to external services. The thing should be easy enough for user to cut all data harvesting if he/she decides so.

I'm pretty sure you're confusing telemetry with how preview builds before launch used to send all the key presses to Microsoft (not third parties).
Today, you can still opt out of everything: www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-10-telemetry
It's even easier for enterprise users, but what can you do, home users are those that need handholding the most.

I'm not a big fan of Windows, but it does its job at home. And there's no denying it improved hugely over the past few iterations.

truth telleri think it fits very well


besides, why is everyone so afraid of pooping with the door open? everyone else already knows you are pooping in there... unless...



i mentioned it due to potential data loss, not about "trying to hide" shit from micro&soft

Well, you can always ask Microsoft to retrieve your data since they most likely have a copy of it ;)

bugI'm pretty sure you're confusing telemetry with how preview builds before launch used to send all the key presses to Microsoft (not third parties).
Today, you can still opt out of everything: www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-10-telemetry
It's even easier for enterprise users, but what can you do, home users are those that need handholding the most.

I'm not a big fan of Windows, but it does its job at home. And there's no denying it improved hugely over the past few iterations.

Could be. I can't deny, it has improved a lot. I frankly like it way more than Win8.1 or Win7. But the privacy concern is still there for the most part.