Don't get me wrong. 5.2 is impressive. Is it LN2 impressive? Ehhaaa.. Uhh... Eh.

That said, this cinebench score is terrifyingly high.

Waiting for air cool numbers, especially on chips like the vanilla 1700

Dj-ElectriCDon't get me wrong. 5.2 is impressive. Is it LN2 impressive? Ehhaaa.. Uhh... Eh.
Waiting for air cool numbers, especially on chips like the vanilla 1700

End of year for me, my 8350 hits 5.0 on air, ryzen should be able to do it on the same cooler or further

Dj-ElectriCDon't get me wrong. 5.2 is impressive. Is it LN2 impressive? Ehhaaa.. Uhh... Eh.

That said, this cinebench score is terrifyingly high.

Waiting for air cool numbers, especially on chips like the vanilla 1700

Broadwell-e is the same thing on LN2. With most chips gettibg just over 5Ghz on LN2.

eidairaman1End of year for me, my 8350 hits 5.0 on air, ryzen should be able to do it on the same cooler or further

Seriously doubt this is doable, regardless of the cooler used. Remember: twice the cores.

That said, 5.2 on LN2 seems kind of low, though it's "8 core - 16 thread bench stable" and not just "1 core CPU-z pic-with-a-camera stable".

HTCSeriously doubt this is doable, regardless of the cooler used. Remember: twice the cores.

That said, 5.2 on LN2 seems kind of low, though it's "8 core - 16 thread bench stable" and not just "1 core CPU-z pic-with-a-camera stable".

Mines all 8 cores with a Ryzen Blender benchmark, it pushes the temps hard. 8physical coes is 8 physical cores, smt/hypthr is almost like ddr.

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/post-your-amd-ryzen-blender-benchmarks-at-200-samples.228686/page-13#post-3582441

Nice, curious how high it will go on AIO though as that's what most buyer gonna use when overclocking it I suspect

BTW is that SHA a new instruction exclusive on AMD or Intel's gonna supports it too in future CPU?

eidairaman1Mines all 8 cores with a Ryzen Blender benchmark, it pushes the temps hard. 8physical coes is 8 physical cores, smt/hypthr is almost like ddr.

Even though AMD claims otherwise, bulldozer and piledriver are more like 4 core, 8 thread processors then 8 core native. Even if you consider them 8 core, that's still 8 core, 8 threads. On the other hand, (from what we can tell) this time around it really IS 8 core, 16 threads.

Please correct me if i'm wrong but isn't it necessary to turn off HT in Intel's CPUs to achieve higher "all cores active" OCs, for benching purposes? IF this is the case, then this cinebench pic @btarunr posted is more impressive because it also shows that all 16 threads are active.

Well it is impressive but i got a question regarding the CineBench readings of the CPU core count. It says 16 core 16 thread. Shouldn't it be 8 core 16 thread? Not sure of the benching program itself. Maybe it's the way the cores are being count with the threads included and it shows correctly. Not a cinebench benchmarker here but normally it would say 8c/16t not 16c/16t. Am i right?

HTCEven though AMD claims otherwise, bulldozer and piledriver are more like 4 core, 8 thread processors then 8 core native. Even if you consider them 8 core, that's still 8 core, 8 threads. On the other hand, (from what we can tell) this time around it really IS 8 core, 16 threads.


Please correct me if i'm wrong but isn't it necessary to turn off HT in Intel's CPUs to achieve higher "all cores active" OCs, for benching purposes? IF this is the case, then this cinebench pic @btarunr posted is more impressive because it also shows that all 16 threads are active.

www.overclockers.com/amd-fx-8350-piledriver-cpu-review/

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldozer_(microarchitecture)

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piledriver_(microarchitecture)

buildzoidBroadwell-e is the same thing on LN2. With most chips gettibg just over 5Ghz on LN2.

Buildzoid has it, 6900k caps out around 5.2Ghz itself. This is perfectly acceptable. I'm personally hoping that 4.5Ghz is achievable with good air\wc.

HTCSeriously doubt this is doable, regardless of the cooler used. Remember: twice the cores.

That said, 5.2 on LN2 seems kind of low, though it's "8 core - 16 thread bench stable" and not just "1 core CPU-z pic-with-a-camera stable".

Ryzen beat the Cinebench R15 world record for 8 core cpus at 5.2GHz, I think that is very impressive. (The image in the OP is not of the WR, for that there is a video on vimeo)

ratirtWell it is impressive but i got a question regarding the CineBench readings of the CPU core count. It says 16 core 16 thread. Shouldn't it be 8 core 16 thread? Not sure of the benching program itself. Maybe it's they way the cores are being count with the threads included and it shows correctly. Not a cinebench benchmarker here but normally it would say 8c/16t not 16c/16t. Am i right?

I noticed that as well but since i've never used cinebench myself, didn't know if this was normal or not.

Wait....it says it was run on Windows 7?

MelvisWait....it says it was run on Windows 7?

Don't understand: why is running on windows 7 relevant?

Please explain your reasoning.

HTCDon't understand: why is running on windows 7 relevant?

Please explain your reasoning.

Technically Ryzen doesn't fully support Win7. In the scheme of things I doubt it makes fuck all of a difference (afterall, Kaby doesn't either), but something to take into account.

CammTechnically Ryzen doesn't fully support Win7. In the scheme of things I doubt it makes fuck all of a difference (afterall, Kaby doesn't either), but something to take into account.

I see: hadn't realised that! Thanks for the explanation.

Apart from e-peen, the modern plague of the nerd 21st century, explain to the ignorant peasant what the point of this is?
/rhetorical

Put differently? This shows how twisted this market has become.. he has one in his hands, all sorts of tests, comparisons, empirical observations he could have made/gone for. But what does he do, lol? He OCes it in LN2..
Normal, mature, 101% everyday ole use :(

Yes yes, i know, some of you are about to have an apoplexy, reading this. Still so though. As long as priorities are so twisted, as long as an entire market decides merely by watching numbers pass it by.. numbers it won't reach by the way..
Anyway. Looking forward to 'normal' tests. Just thinking of all the drama about to ensue if Ryzens are indeed -that- good makes me smile in anticipation, lol

CammTechnically Ryzen doesn't fully support Win7. In the scheme of things I doubt it makes fuck all of a difference (afterall, Kaby doesn't either), but something to take into account.

More like Windows 7 doesn't fully support Ryzen, it can run them fine, just doesn't take advantage of all the instruction sets.

Seems like a pretty good score when you consider this absolute beast of a server did 8177 points and it has 96c/192t:

www.servethehome.com/william-harmon-crushes-cinebench-r15-now-xeon-e7-v4/

AMD proc had 16t and did 2300 - not bad.

Personally, i'm looking for either a 1500 or 1300 Ryzen (both non X), so i can underclock it: should be a rather nice upgrade over my current APU (in system specs).

This means this March 2 launch isn't really for me, BUT will let me know the full capabilities of the Ryzen chips.

I do have quite a few concerns because i don't want to be forced to change to windows 10 and Ryzen may require it, and my OS is OEM, so changing motherboards may be a problem. Will see how the reviews pan out before i make my final decision.

Caring1More like Windows 7 doesn't fully support Ryzen, it can run them fine, just doesn't take advantage of all the instruction sets.

More like MS fear mongering people into using Windows 10

It wouldn't surprise me if in a few months MS silently rolls out an 'update' that makes kaby Lake and ryzen systems running win 7 and 8 randomly start blue screening.

Just my two cents.

Current more or less official WR for an octa-core is 2445pts for i7-5960X @ 6GHz.
Since the overall trend is not going with previous "leaked" results (e.g. same performance at almost 20% lower clock), I can either assume that it was clocked higher, or something is amiss in this picture.
previously R7 1800x was just a tad faster than i7-6900K at slightly lower clocks(e.g. the same).
Or comparing to stock 1800X benches... a ~30% overclock with ~53% performance boost?.... in the real world it does not scale like that! You can't get more for less.

HTCDon't understand: why is running on windows 7 relevant?

Most official competitions, and even HWBot submission system still uses Win7 and below as a primary benching platforms. Most Win8/10 scores are considered valid, but are not accepted for any kind of competitive OC scoring (at least it was like that few months ago). The only thing I do not understand, is why there are still no submissions on HWBot or any kind of validation?
It's nice to yell in front of a camera, that "we broke the world record", but the truth of the day - there are no valid submissions, no screenshots, nothing...

do we know the transistor count?

HTCI do have quite a few concerns because i don't want to be forced to change to windows 10 and Ryzen may require it, and my OS is OEM, so changing motherboards may be a problem. Will see how the reviews pan out before i make my final decision.

what kind of OEM... a key you got from a store (where MS license states they must sell the copy with a blank hard drive)? that should be fine, you reactivate it

kn00tcndo we know the transistor count?

Somewhere in the ballpark of 4.5-4.8 billion. A lot more than 6950X (3.8b).

AenraApart from e-peen, the modern plague of the nerd 21st century, explain to the ignorant peasant what the point of this is?
/rhetorical

Put differently? This shows how twisted this market has become.. he has one in his hands, all sorts of tests, comparisons, empirical observations he could have made/gone for. But what does he do, lol? He OCes it in LN2..
Normal, mature, 101% everyday ole use :(

Yes yes, i know, some of you are about to have an apoplexy, reading this. Still so though. As long as priorities are so twisted, as long as an entire market decides merely by watching numbers pass it by.. numbers it won't reach by the way..
Anyway. Looking forward to 'normal' tests. Just thinking of all the drama about to ensue if Ryzens are indeed -that- good makes me smile in anticipation, lol

are you implying people are flocking to buy it due to a single LN2 leak? come on... extreme overclocking has been going on before this century, why do you have to be spiteful about a drag race that pushes the limit of pieces of metal & physics... it's exactly what an 'ignorant peasant' acts like, the market is what you make of it

if he's sponsored, he shouldnt be leaking real tests, you cant even be sure if amd isnt the one that approved the leak

i dont even care about water cooling, i'm into air overclocks for regular users... (but also find extreme ANYTHING, pushing any limits under or over, extreme sports, & so on to be interesting)