Thursday, May 18th 2017

Raja Koduri: You Can Use Vega Frontier Edition for Gaming; But You Should Wait

In a blog post detailing AMD's Vega Frontier Edition graphics card, which we covered in-depth at the time of its announcement in AMD's Financial Analyst Day 2017, AMD's Radeon Technologies Group head Raja Koduri clarified that current machine learning poster child, the Vega Frontier Edition GPU, can also be used for gaming (who's to say some researchers, or pioneers, as AMD is so fond of calling them, won't be visiting Talos 1 themselves between coffee breaks?)

However, it is Raja Koduri's opinion that you should wait for Vega's gaming GPUs, since the Frontier Edition is "optimized for professional use cases (and priced accordingly)", and that if you want to game on AMD hardware, you should wait "just a little while longer for the lower-priced, gaming-optimized Radeon RX Vega graphics card." He then threw in a free "You'll be glad you did," as if Vega hasn't been a long, long time coming already.
Source: AMD Vega Frontier Edition
Add your own comment

61 Comments on Raja Koduri: You Can Use Vega Frontier Edition for Gaming; But You Should Wait

#51
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
Why are you comparing a cpu bound chart? Why not compare 720P while you are at it?
Posted on Reply
#52
Captain_Tom
cdawallWhy are you comparing a cpu bound chart? Why not compare 720P while you are at it?
LOL ok buddy. Check the recent benches: 1080p removes any instances of running out of VRAM. Even at higher resolutions the 1080 Ti is just 75% stronger on average (Although the Fury X is still great at 4K if you just lower a couple of useless settings).


So justify it however you want. Indeed the 1080 Ti is the strongest gaming card (Besides the Quadro P6000, Titan XP, Radeon Pro Duo, and within a month the Vega Frontier).


75% more performance, for 300% the cost; and it will likely be defeated within 3 months by either a stronger Vega or Volta card. Enjoy throwing away your money to play 4K at 50 FPS.
Posted on Reply
#53
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
Captain_TomLOL ok buddy. Check the recent benches: 1080p removes any instances of running out of VRAM. Even at higher resolutions the 1080 Ti is just 75% stronger on average (Although the Fury X is still great at 4K if you just lower a couple of useless settings).


So justify it however you want. Indeed the 1080 Ti is the strongest gaming card (Besides the Quadro P6000, Titan XP, Radeon Pro Duo, and within a month the Vega Frontier).


75% more performance, for 300% the cost; and it will likely be defeated within 3 months by either a stronger Vega or Volta card. Enjoy throwing away your money to play 4K at 50 FPS.
What lala land do you live in? Here is all of the charts of games that average over 60FPS








Games that do not




So that is 16 reviewed games to 5, that exceed 60FPS, if we dig further into your claims we will find that the P6000 isn't faster in games without a modified driver, the Titan X pascal is slower and the Titan Xp is within a couple FPS, this would show what a modified driver P6000 could do since it is actually the same card sans ECC memory.

We could also take your claim of "although the Fury X is still great at 4K if you just lower a couple of useless settings" and end up with every single game exceeding 60FPS. As a person with two Fury's and two RX480's I can say thanks to the worthlessness of multi-GPU, the 1080Ti performs better. I don't know and you don't know the performance of the Vega lineup, but from what has been rumored the most we can hope for from the rumor mill is an equal of the Ti. Which by your own admittance isn't that impressive.
Captain_TomThe 1080 Ti is not impressive imo:
Again I have been playing this game a while and played with quite a few of these cards. I do not lightly make claims based by biased articles read off of rumor mill pages.
Posted on Reply
#55
Th3pwn3r
Here's a thought, what's wrong with waiting for Vega but also buying a card now? I bought a 1080 but wanted Vega, guess what? I'm still buying a Vega high end card. I'm not the only one who will be doing this. A lot of us are wealthy enough to buy a high end card every other week or so if we want to.
Posted on Reply
#56
Captain_Tom
cdawallWhat lala land do you live in? Here is all of the charts of games that average over 60FPS

So that is 16 reviewed games to 5, that exceed 60FPS, if we dig further into your claims we will find that the P6000 isn't faster in games without a modified driver, the Titan X pascal is slower and the Titan Xp is within a couple FPS, this would show what a modified driver P6000 could do since it is actually the same card sans ECC memory.

We could also take your claim of "although the Fury X is still great at 4K if you just lower a couple of useless settings" and end up with every single game exceeding 60FPS. As a person with two Fury's and two RX480's I can say thanks to the worthlessness of multi-GPU, the 1080Ti performs better. I don't know and you don't know the performance of the Vega lineup, but from what has been rumored the most we can hope for from the rumor mill is an equal of the Ti. Which by your own admittance isn't that impressive.



Again I have been playing this game a while and played with quite a few of these cards. I do not lightly make claims based by biased articles read off of rumor mill pages.
60 FPS on average. Most will be dropping to 60, and that is mostly games that are near or over a year old like BF1 and Assassin's Creed: No one plays this edition. Those games that have the best graphics and are harder to run? Expect this fall's games to run like that on your 1080 Ti.

$700 of still turning down settings :D
Posted on Reply
#57
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
Captain_Tom60 FPS on average. Most will be dropping to 60, and that is mostly games that are near or over a year old like BF1 and Assassin's Creed: No one plays this edition. Those games that have the best graphics and are harder to run? Expect this fall's games to run like that on your 1080 Ti.

$700 of still turning down settings :D
So what do you think vega is going to do? Would you like to place a wager on it.
Th3pwn3rHere's a thought, what's wrong with waiting for Vega but also buying a card now? I bought a 1080 but wanted Vega, guess what? I'm still buying a Vega high end card. I'm not the only one who will be doing this. A lot of us are wealthy enough to buy a high end card every other week or so if we want to.
Excellent point, I purchased this since I was tired of waiting and plan to either go vega or get a second one and water cool the whole batch. I just like tweaking and happen to enjoy video games.
Posted on Reply
#58
bug
Th3pwn3rHere's a thought, what's wrong with waiting for Vega but also buying a card now? I bought a 1080 but wanted Vega, guess what? I'm still buying a Vega high end card. I'm not the only one who will be doing this. A lot of us are wealthy enough to buy a high end card every other week or so if we want to.
You're not supposed to throw money at the green camp because for every video card they sell they kill two puppies. And three bunnies. Or something.
Posted on Reply
#59
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
bugYou're not supposed to throw money at the green camp because for every video card they sell they kill two puppies. And three bunnies. Or something.
I heard they kill cats. So it's a positive
Posted on Reply
#60
Nabarun
cdawallI heard they kill cats. So it's a positive
Monster!
Posted on Reply
#61
Th3pwn3r
cdawallExcellent point, I purchased this since I was tired of waiting and plan to either go vega or get a second one and water cool the whole batch. I just like tweaking and happen to enjoy video games.
I like games as well, I like tinkering on things too. Too bad I don't really end up playing much at all. I might have 10 hours of play time within the last two months :( Gone are the days/nights of mom bringing food to my room because I hadn't eaten in so long haha.
bugYou're not supposed to throw money at the green camp because for every video card they sell they kill two puppies. And three bunnies. Or something.
Well I do like puppies but rabbit meat is a bit tasty.
cdawallI heard they kill cats. So it's a positive
Not a big fan of cats, my GF's cat loves me but he annoys me at times. I woke up Thursday night around 3am and discovered that he had squirmed underneath my knees as I laid there sleeping...lol.
Posted on Reply
Add your own comment
Oct 18th, 2024 13:30 EDT change timezone

New Forum Posts

Popular Reviews

Controversial News Posts