Thursday, July 13th 2017
AMD CEO Talks Ryzen Threadripper and Ryzen 3 Series in Latest Company Video
In a video presentation posted on the company's official YouTube channel, AMD CEO Lisa Su talked at length about the two new lines of Ryzen desktop processors the company plans to launch later this month. This includes the Ryzen Threadripper HEDT socket TR4 processor at the higher-end of the lineup, and the new Ryzen 3 series socket AM4 processors at the lower-end. AMD is announcing market-availability of two SKUs for each of the two brands. To begin with, AMD will launch two quad-core SKUs in the Ryzen 3 series, beginning with the Ryzen 3 1200 and the Ryzen 3 1300X. Both of these are quad-core parts which lack SMT, leaving them with just four threads. AMD is expected to price them on par with Intel's dual-core "Kaby Lake" Core i3 SKUs.
The Ryzen 3 1200 is clocked at 3.10 GHz, with 3.40 GHz boost, the 1300X is clocked higher, at 3.50 GHz, with 3.70 GHz boost, and XFR (extended frequency range) enabling higher clocks depending on the efficacy of your cooling. Both parts will be available worldwide on July 27. The Ryzen Threadripper HEDT processor lineup is designed to take Intel's Core X series head-on, and will launch with two SKUs, initially. This includes the 12-core Ryzen Threadripper 1920X, and the 16-core Ryzen Threadripper 1950X. Both parts further feature SMT and XFR. The 12-core/24-thread 1920X features clock speeds of 3.50 GHz, with 4.00 GHz boost; while the 16-core/32-thread 1950X ticks at 3.40 GHz, with 4.00 GHz boost. AMD also ran live demos of the Threadripper chips, in which the 12-core 1920X was shown to beat 10-core Intel Core i9-7900X at Cinebench R15 multi-threaded benchmark. The 16-core 1950X was shown to be close to 50% faster than the i9-7900X. The company also confirmed pricing.
The Ryzen Threadripper 1920X is priced at USD $799, while the Threadripper 1950X goes for a stunning $999. Both chips feature 32 MB of L3 cache, a 64-lane PCI-Express root complex, which enables full x16 bandwidth for up to 3 graphics cards; and a quad-channel DDR4 memory interface. Of course, both SKUs are completely unlocked. Both Threadripper parts will be available in the market by "early August" alongside a wave of compatible socket TR4 motherboards based on the AMD X399 chipset. At its SIGGRAPH 2017 event held on July 27, the company will formally launch the Ryzen 3 series, the Ryzen Threadripper series, and the Radeon RX Vega family of high-end graphics cards.
The video presentation follows:
The Ryzen 3 1200 is clocked at 3.10 GHz, with 3.40 GHz boost, the 1300X is clocked higher, at 3.50 GHz, with 3.70 GHz boost, and XFR (extended frequency range) enabling higher clocks depending on the efficacy of your cooling. Both parts will be available worldwide on July 27. The Ryzen Threadripper HEDT processor lineup is designed to take Intel's Core X series head-on, and will launch with two SKUs, initially. This includes the 12-core Ryzen Threadripper 1920X, and the 16-core Ryzen Threadripper 1950X. Both parts further feature SMT and XFR. The 12-core/24-thread 1920X features clock speeds of 3.50 GHz, with 4.00 GHz boost; while the 16-core/32-thread 1950X ticks at 3.40 GHz, with 4.00 GHz boost. AMD also ran live demos of the Threadripper chips, in which the 12-core 1920X was shown to beat 10-core Intel Core i9-7900X at Cinebench R15 multi-threaded benchmark. The 16-core 1950X was shown to be close to 50% faster than the i9-7900X. The company also confirmed pricing.
118 Comments on AMD CEO Talks Ryzen Threadripper and Ryzen 3 Series in Latest Company Video
TR should be +5 to -15% clock for clock against it depending on the application being run atm, that's without more Zen specific optimizations that Linux or Windows may bring to the table.
MSRP doesn't matter, only what you can actually buy it for does. At launch, retailers are going to charge TR's full MSRP and it will fall over time as the 1800X's price has.The 1800X is a fully enabled and fully functional die while the same is not true of the dies on an 8-core EPYC. Your point is nonsense.I agree that it's a good value compared to Intel's offerings, but that isn't the point I was making. I'm also not suggesting a savings where you get more cores per dollar with the high end, just not gouging where you get less.The 1800X launched in the past obviously. It doesn't matter what it sold for back then, just what it sells for now. Double the current market price would be fine.
Also, what are "real workloads" to you? Admittedly we've only seen a single benchmark so far for Threadripper and it's not a core to core comparison (as Intel has as yet deliver its higher core count parts), but if you were to spend $999 on a CPU, Threadripper looks like a much more attractive option to me compared to the i9-7900X, but each to their own.
There is nowhere a 16-core Threadripper will be on par with a 16-core Skylake-X, 1950X will be competing with 10 and 12 core Skylake-X in overall performance.
And once again, you default to the missing "optimizations" for AMD. The facts are simple; there are no special feature sets in Ryzen to optimize for. Stop this BS now.
www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-7900x-skylake-x,5092-5.html
www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-7900x-skylake-x,5092-6.html
www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-7900x-skylake-x,5092-7.html
www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-7900x-skylake-x,5092-8.html
What BS are you talking about did you not see the ROTR or AoS patches, what they did for Zen? That's just for two games, you're telling me win10 is running the best it can on Zen, when the chip itself was unveiled this year? How about SKL-X & that AVX 512, do programs simply run AVX (512) code without having SKL-X specific path as if it was Broadwell?
If you have a look at some of my Ryzen posts, I did point out that it should've had more PCIe lanes, as it's the one thing that disappointed me about it, but hey, I guess you didn't notice that as you were too busy bitching.
What do you mean MSRP doesn't matter? You just complained that AMD charged too much and then say it doesn't matter. Your logic is very confusing. So are you saying Intel's MSRP doesn't matter as well then, as their prices will maybe also drop over time? The only thing anyone can go by at launch is MSRP's until we see what the actual retail prices are. I think you need some serious help dude :kookoo:
Just ignore them, and try to actually comment on the news.
This year has been amazing so far, well at least in the CPU field. It truly reminds of the golden age of computing.
You know when changing the CPU actually made a difference, and you didn’t only do it because you wanted a new chipset.
Competition and innovation FTW :rockout:
TR is a good value there if you can use more than 10c/20t. Otherwise, you are piling on cores for no reason. Id go for the 'generally' faster ipc chip too... especially since it can overclock to 4ghz+ with relative ease. I can run mine at 4.5ghz (custom loop 3x120mm rad)
As for the dies being the same, what evidence do you have that they are not? AMD has talked extensively about how part of the beauty of their new product lineup is their extensive use of MCMs with Infinity Fabric since they can produce the smaller dies with much higher yields and then create products in their various product segments from that common stock at lower costs. I would say that your assertion that the dies would not be the same would less follow from common logic, and as such the burden of proof is yours.
However, looking at the Ryzen die shot, it doesn't look like there's any unused PCIe lanes in there.