Liviu CojocaruAMD is putting almost all the effort in the CPU market this year...I think they'll probably sell the GPU department :D

Well, mobile Vega (could actually rock, if executed properly) followed up by 7nm Vega early 2019 or late 2018 if we are super lucky and GF scores a home run.

medi01Well, mobile Vega (could actually rock, if executed properly) followed up by 7nm Vega early 2019 or late 2018 if we are super lucky and GF scores a home run.

Looking forward to see this :)

Ryzen isn't doing well against Coffee Lake. IPC wise, not counting memory/cache sensitive benchmarks, Ryzen is somewhere around Haswell, minus the terrible AVX-256bit performance. Ryzen, however, suffers from serious cache and memory latency problems due the interconnect fabric that glues modules together in their multi-module CPUs. This Infinity fabric technology while enables them to jam as many cores as they like into a CPU, it has its downsides, which AMD downplayed greatly since Ryzen has come out. These latency problems affect more specifically gaming workloads where in games, the 6-core Ryzen generally lags behind Intel's 4C4T CPUs. Take a look at how far behind Ryzen is in memory latency:
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I don't think Infinity Fabric is suited for consumer CPUs. It incurs considerable latency between the 4-core complex and the uncore (memory controller, cache, bus controllers, etc.) parts of the CPU. I don't think AMD needed to use this technology to combat Intel in desktops or servers. They should've manufactured and sold true 4-core CPUs, back in late 2016, where Ryzen could've been released, and then built true 6-core CPUs a year later, like Intel did.

To me, its looks like price increase not drops, this year will be more expensive.

NC37Great timing with Meltdown happening. Just what AMD should have done so many times in the past.

When your foe is down you don't let them live...you kick them in the junk till they puke and faint!

LOL! Brutal.

I speculate this is for next-gen Ryzen and can't wait since I didn't pull the trigger on gen1.

Liviu CojocaruAMD is putting almost all the effort in the CPU market this year...I think they'll probably sell the GPU department :D

So you don't really know what's going on... I take it. The GPU is doing fine in custom hardware and if they did better in in aftermarket AIB Graphics they can't make GloFo create any more wafer starts.

CAPSLOCKSTUCK

While this is really great news, some of the prices don't really make sense to me, particularly when it comes to the 1700 and 1700X. New price of the 1700 is $299...but for only a couple bucks more, the 1700X can be had. Regardless of whether I intend to OC or not, I'd go with the 1700X as it's only a few bucks more. I think it would have been better to have the 1700 at $250, and the 1700X @ $300, but that's just me.

CasecutterSo you don't really know what's going on... I take it. The GPU is doing fine in custom hardware and if they did better in in aftermarket AIB Graphics they can't make GloFo create any more wafer starts.

Do you?! ... I was stating my opinion, it's a wild guess :)

I could not be happier with my 1700 , And I jumped ship after years of intel builds. I really hope a killer GPU is on the cards for later in the year.

I can't actually find 1900X for $449 anywhere.

xorbeI can't actually find 1900X for $449 anywhere.

If you are living near a MicroCenter they have it for $399 and you can knock of an additional 30 bucks if you buy a motherboard with it.

sutyiIf you are living near a MicroCenter they have it for $399 and you can knock of an additional 30 bucks if you buy a motherboard with it.

Nope, Santa Clara MicroCenter location moved out for a WalMart grocery store some time ago. :-(

xorbeNope, Santa Clara MicroCenter location moved out for a WalMart grocery store some time ago. :-(

I don't understand why the ONLY Microcenter in the entire state is in SoCal; I'd take just one up here over a stupid Frys any day of the week. Though, we do have Central Computers. I buy from them all the time.