Think i will wait until getting this, and when i do it be on one system to see how that goes.

FFS go away!

AsRockThink i will wait until getting this, and when i do it be on one system to see how that goes.

Something else to break the OS further?

How many more things are they gonna break? I had to use FOUR different disk management tools to simply clone a drive in which all of them worked previously. That was on two PCs, BTW, to rule out an issue with one.

TheGuruStudHow many more things are they gonna break? I had to use FOUR different disk management tools to simply clone a drive in which all of them worked previously. That was on two PCs, BTW, to rule out an issue with one.

yeah makes you wonder when in Microsoft going to get their head out of the sand

"Spring creators update"
Very original, much creativity.

let me guess it will perform a dirty installation by renaming the old windows folder to windows.old, keeping 5 GB of rollback restore point, messing up all my programs and custom fonts to the extent that i will have to perform clean install. thanks Microsoft.

ShurikN"Spring creators update"
Very original, much creativity.

Creators creatively making problems. seems like MS way of doing things is to fix that what isn't broken oh yea and to re enable shit you disabled.


Sadly gave up on Linux being any good for games 10 years ago, dam shame developers have not been able to opt for it. Which is a shame all so as that would put MS's balls in a vvice and would have to do some thing much more positive.

I'm so eager for this release, for the Windows Subsystem for Linux bug fixes.
And I can't understand why you have to upgrade entire Windows or kick in Insider, just to upgrade WSL or Edge. This is stupid.

I'm still on 1703, just because 1709 is garbage with it's automatic app resume on reboot.

What's Microsoft going to break functionality to next? Find out next time in Spring Creator's Update (a fancy way of saying; another beta release.)

Lots of armchair whiners on here. My personal favorite was the user that started using caps to yell about how he/she doesn't know how to image and/or clone a storage drive. I use casper and acronis on multiple systems and haven't had a single hiccup on any of these builds. So many end users don't know how software works anymore.

AsRockThink i will wait until getting this, and when i do it be on one system to see how that goes.

Yup. I always stay about 6-8 months behind before updating. I just use group policy editor, and only update on my decision once they fix the 10,000 bugs that come with each new update.

I am sporting an UN-broken 8.1. W10? Well, I am unsure what I am missing.

Last full windows Finalised Version was 8 something
They said 10 was the last Version and it would have Rolling failsUpdate's
That means in other words
Its A Rolling Beta Version ( and the "Insider varient is a rolling Alpha)
Because its a Rolling Beta You the end user are the unpaid Testers
It Will Break things it will go wrong >>> and then they will Roll out the next Version for you to Test free for them.

Windows 10's development process is an example of what people of today want. Think about it, every year Apple comes out with a new version of MacOS alongside a new version of iOS along with their other iOS-like OSs (tvOS, WatchOS, etc). Google does it too with a new version of Android every year. Hell, both Apple and Google make huge yearly parties surrounding these yearly releases and invites developers from all over to witness them in almost cult-like fashion. Not only that but both Firefox and Google Chrome are updated with huge fanfare with an even faster monthly development cycle. Regular people on the street have come to expect that kind of hyper-speed software evolution from their devices and Microsoft is no exception. Microsoft saw this, they heard people say "Windows is boring, they've not done anything really new and exciting since what? Windows 7? Windows isn't cool anymore!" So now we have the Windows 10 development cycle where every six months we get a helping of "exciting" new features.

rtwjunkieYup. I always stay about 6-8 months behind before updating. I just use group policy editor, and only update on my decision once they fix the 10,000 bugs that come with each new update.

I use group policy editor to limit Delivery optimization speed , what can I use else to stop the update totally ?

Windows OS could run on baby seal blood ,and I would still run it over iOS, or android, or Google. In my experience, Flashy things are for people who don't require substance as much as they require appearance. I dont need a Red carpet affair, i just want an OS that is reasonably reliable, and does the things i want it to do.

every year i get an invitation to the M$ event/fair thingy, i dont go, but they hold M$ affairs as well, but not anywhere near the way Apple does it, but that is a business model , and style that Job's wanted for the company, M$ doesnt

TheDeeGeeI'm still on 1703, just because 1709 is garbage with it's automatic app resume on reboot.

Hell yeah. I had to disable anything-1709 on my WSUS servers at work. Complete garbage.

trparkyWindows 10's development process is an example of what people of today want. Think about it, every year Apple comes out with a new version of MacOS alongside a new version of iOS along with their other iOS-like OSs (tvOS, WatchOS, etc). Google does it too with a new version of Android every year. Hell, both Apple and Google make huge yearly parties surrounding these yearly releases and invites developers from all over to witness them in almost cult-like fashion. Not only that but both Firefox and Google Chrome are updated with huge fanfare with an even faster monthly development cycle. Regular people on the street have come to expect that kind of hyper-speed software evolution from their devices and Microsoft is no exception. Microsoft saw this, they heard people say "Windows is boring, they've not done anything really new and exciting since what? Windows 7? Windows isn't cool anymore!" So now we have the Windows 10 development cycle where every six months we get a helping of "exciting" new features.

I don't recall my Macbook Pro for work every bricking itself from an update though. People want regular stable releases and upgrades.

If i may be so gracious as to pick apart and edit your Post :)

trparkyWindows 10's development process is an example of what people of todayMicrosoft Think people want. Think about it, every year Apple comes out with a new version of MacOS alongside a new version of iOS along with their other iOS-like OSs (tvOS, WatchOS, etc). Google does it too with a new version of Android every year. Hell, both Apple and Google make huge yearly parties surrounding these yearly releases and invites developers from all over to witness them in almost cult-like fashion. Not only that but both Firefox and Google Chrome are updated with huge fanfare ( with an even faster monthly development cycle to fix the never ending Security faults in our Software that are found) Regular people on the street have come to expect that kind of hyper-speed software evolution from their devices and Microsoft is no exception. Microsoft saw this, they heard people say "Windows is boring, they've not done anything really new and exciting since what? Windows 7? Windows isn't cool anymore!" So now we have the Windows 10 development cycle where every six months we get a helping of "exciting" new features. which may or may not render your devices temporary un-usable[/QUOTE]

The Business Community (especially the IT Section ) Dread these Often un-nessary roll outs as it Dramaticaly effects their Operation.
The Time and Cost of rolling out these upgrades which often break their existing Software Deployment

That is A Major Reason Business will not upgrade from Previous Versions of Windows XP-7and 8
For the Business World Windows 10 IS NOT STABLE ENOUGH FOR GENERAL DEPLOYMENT

Thank you for allowing me to edit your post :)

There's a reason why Windows 10 has the business channel along with the LTS or Long Term Support branch. Both of those cater to businesses that perhaps don't want to have the latest and greatest gee-whiz features and want stability instead.

As for update issues I have to say that I've had none. Yes, I know that some people have had issues and I don't know why. Considering the fact that if it wasn't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all I'd be hit with an update issue at some point but no, I have dodged the update quality bullet every single time and I have no idea why. My systems are just as standard as anyone else's systems. Yeah, I don't know why. I kind of feel left out.

AquinusI don't recall my Macbook Pro for work every bricking itself from an update though. People want regular stable releases and upgrades.

As for Apple stuff, look at iOS 11. It may work fine for me but many people say that iOS 11 isn't nearly as stable as it once was in the past and Apple has even gone so far as to say that many feature upgrades are going to be held back for iOS 13 because they're planning on working to resolve quality and stability issues with iOS 12. The same goes with MacOS, it too has had a bunch of issues lately which has been a result of Apple's faster development cycle. People blame this on the firing of Scott Forstall.

trparkyAs for Apple stuff, look at iOS 11. It may work fine for me but many people say that iOS 11 isn't nearly as stable as it once was in the past and Apple has even gone so far as to say that many feature upgrades are going to be held back for iOS 13 because they're planning on working to resolve quality and stability issues with iOS 12. The same goes with MacOS, it too has had a bunch of issues lately which has been a result of Apple's faster development cycle. People blame this on the firing of Scott Forstall.

While I don't doubt there are issues, I still haven't encountered many of them and I haven't had an upgrade brick my iPhone 7 or the Macbook Pro. So, even with the bugs that are there, they're not rendering my devices inoperable. We can't say the same with Windows right now.

The 17618100 is not stable at the moment. I work on it. Redsone V will not come out in summer, I doubt it a little.

AND JUST TO MUDDY THE WINDOWS 10 WATER

Microsoft has confirmed Windows 10 S will be a "mode" available in all versions of Windows, and added a prediction it'll be used by a "majority" of users.


Windows 10 S was created to simplify administration for school sysadmins by running only apps from the Windows Store and designed to run on low-cost hardware. Microsoft also offered 10 S on the Surface laptop. It's, basically, a slimmed down and restricted flavor of Windows 10 that drives people to Edge and Bing and Redmond's Windows software souk.
On March 7, the corporate veep of Microsoft's operating systems group, Joe Belfiore, tweeted the product would disappear and become a "mode" in Windows. Now he's revealed more detail in a blog post that said customers like 10 S but "the naming was a bit confusing for both customers and partners."
Microsoft's therefore decided that "starting with the next update to Windows 10, coming soon, customers can choose to buy a new Windows 10 Home or Windows 10 Pro PC with S mode enabled, and commercial customers will be able to deploy Windows 10 Enterprise with S mode enabled."
"We expect the majority of customers to enjoy the benefits of Windows 10 in S mode," Belfiore wrote. Which is hardly a ringing endorsement of Windows 10 in its dominant configuration!

More here
www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/09/windows_10_s_mode_confirmed/