BlueberriesTDP is 250W, same as Pascal.

Vya DomusCould very well be the case, base clocks are extremely conservative. 754nm^2 is simply massive and binning is very difficult, clocks generally go down with die space even if everything else remains unchanged.

The fact that the 2080ti has the same TDP as the 1080ti can only signify that on average it runs at a much lower clock speed. Or perhaps, this time around Nvidia will take some "liberty" with their TDP ratings, they did massively improve cooling after all.

Anymaland some optimizations, they know

Anymal12nm vs 16nm should mean something, and some optimizations, they know

FluffmeisterMaxwell was faster and more efficient than Kepler on the same 28nm node

FordGT90Concept"Sleek" is synonymous with "glossy" and "graceful lines." The card is really no more glossy than your average graphics card and there's absolutely nothing graceful about the design that's fundamentally a box with some bolted on bits to obfuscate that fact.

Yes, dual fan is a step up from the previous blower design but the HSF is still wholly unremarkable compared to AIB alternatives.

Vya DomusMaxwell wasn't 750mm^2, a small detail that got lost along the way, I presume.

Vya DomusMaxwell wasn't 750mm^2, a small detail that got lost along the way, I presume.

XzibitNot to mention dumping of its FP64 units.

I believe it was mentioned by one of the tech sites that Turing is doing the same. Dumping FP64 units to make room for RT cores.

Turing is Volta (exchanged FP64 units for RT cores)

CrustybeaverFrom someone who's worked in the design industry for many years I would disagree with your analysis, the card has a sleek and stylish appeal.

RockarolaLet me guess, you worked on the Fiat Multipla?

Midland Dog265 to 280 ish, tdp means shit, it will use slightly more power than pascal when OCd, titan v had a 250 watt tdp but you could make a titan v draw heaps more than 250 watts while ocd

XzibitNot to mention dumping of its FP64 units.

I believe it was mentioned by one of the tech sites that Turing is doing the same. Dumping FP64 units to make room for RT cores.

Turing is Volta (exchanged FP64 units for RT cores)

techy1
well I think this is self explanatory and matches what we have heard before. I do not care about total price increase (like 700? 1000$ who cares its +/-300$ for few year spending on something that I probably will use every day),
but I have never been so disappointed with next gen gpus, no doubt RTX will be x6 times faster than GTX in Raytracing ONLY - and that is and will be a non-factor for next few years, and if nvidia could fix all this with drivers optimisation - they would have done it before presentation and show that off as much as they could - instead we got "it just works" and "JiggaRayz" for like x30 times.
the question now is - to buy a used Pascal now or wait a bit? because mining is unprofitable for only 2nd week in a row now (am I right?) - I mean all those miners will have to dump those Pascals (and flush the price regardless the RTX) now or later?

PapahyooieIt's a new design language for sure... And honestly, I can see the appeal. It's all bulky, like a piece of industrial machinery, or perhaps a tank. Makes it look muscular.

But sleek? No way. The previous founders edition cards were sleek. Ford's right. It's a box with some details. It looks like the ass end of a rocker ship, sure. But that doesn't make it sleek.

efikkanTuring has a completely different SM structure from Pascal.
Estimating performance across generations based on FPU performance is dangerous, just look at the past:

mroofieFP64 excuse :rolleyes:

CrustybeaverYou see a box, I see style. It's subjective. Thankfully for you there'll be gaudy aftermarket RGB goodness that awaits.

PapahyooieI literally said that I could see the appeal... I never once said that I do not see style. In fact, I complemented the style as muscular. I said it specifically is not a "sleek" style.

But hey, continue to read what you want and ignore the point. :toast:

tvamoswww.pcgameshardware.de/Grafikkarten-Grafikkarte-97980/Videos/Nvidia-RTX-2080-Ti-Performance-in-Shadow-of-the-Tomb-Raider-1263244/

2080Ti, 1080p, 30-60FPS with raytracing.

XzibitBehold the sleekness

John Naylori think it might be better to wait until the game is upgraded to allow for RTR to function ... which it isn't as yet. While we are at it, do ya think it might matter if the cards OC 30+% like 9xx or single digits like AMD ? No interest at all what reference cards to not overclocked.

After speaking with Metro Exodus developers 4A Games, however, we might finally have some idea of what to expect when Nvidia’s pretty RTX settings are all switched on.

“We’re always going to be pushing 60[fps],” rendering programmer Ben Archard told me when I asked if 4A have any kind of performance targets when it came to implementing Nvidia’s uber lighting ray tracing tech. “But we’ll see what we get. Obviously, there are three cards there and we’ll see what profiles we can get for each.”
He also confirmed that 4A’s 60fps target was with a 1920×1080 resolution as well. “It’s 1080p, yes,” he said. “That’s the goal, but we’ll see how it goes.”