Tuesday, October 9th 2018

Intel Fixes Spectre & Meltdown on New Desktop Processors, Core-X Will Have to Wait

The new 9th generation Intel Core processors arrived yesterday with a series of improvements made to entice gamers and content creators. These improvements, however, join others that go beyond pure performance. Intel has introduced several architectural changes to fix the infamous Spectre & Meltdown vulnerabilities, and the new processors mitigate most of the variants of these attacks through a combination of hardware, firmware and OS fixes.

The big changes come to two of the six variants of those vulnerabilities. In both "Rogue Data Cache Load" (Meltdown, variant 3) and "L1 Terminal Fault" (Meltdown, Variant 5) vulnerabilities these new processors have hardware fixes that are new and not present on the rest of the current portfolio of Intel chips. This includes the new Xeon W-3175X (Core-X Skylake-X Refresh), which still depend on firmware fixes to mitigate those problems.
The "Bounds Check Bypass" (Spectre's Variant 1) will still need to be mitigated by software for the time being, due to the need for deeper architectural changes. With that said, the current hardware fixes that have been implemented improve not only security, but also the performance of these chips. This is thanks to said hardware fixes having practically no impact on performance according to Intel, though we'll have to confirm this on future reviews of the new desktop processors.
Source: AnandTech
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31 Comments on Intel Fixes Spectre & Meltdown on New Desktop Processors, Core-X Will Have to Wait

#26
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Xx Tek Tip xXI wonder how the performance improvement is in this refresh, my x299 board is getting curious : )
Improvements, lol. Last time Intel improved performance was with Sandy Bridge (and that was only because of much higher clock speeds). All we've been getting since is "optimizations".
Don't get me wrong, we got improvements from Intel in pretty much all areas. Save for performance.
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#27
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SlizzoMostly the same. Except these Skylake X Refresh parts are on the 14nm++ process instead of the older 14nm+ that the previous Skylake X chips are on.
Why would they use a refined process and not taking advantage of including hardware security mitigations and increasing more the clocks like in Whiskey Lake or CF-Refresh?
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bugImprovements, lol. Last time Intel improved performance was with Sandy Bridge
The 9900k is no improvement, x299 however will get a few gains here. The fact it's soldered is great and I'll upgrade my 7740x to a new skylake-x refesh chip at some stage - Threadripper isn't for me since I've already got a x299 board and skylake-x has better gaming performance since I don't want a dedicated gaming machine and a HEDT machine, why not have both in one? Threadripper is getting better for gaming but the price of the motherboards had put me off.
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#29
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WikiFMWhy would they use a refined process and not taking advantage of including hardware security mitigations and increasing more the clocks like in Whiskey Lake or CF-Refresh?
Because modifying anything required redesigned masks (i.e. additional costs).
Btw, 2 of the 3 newly released CPUs do include hardware fixes: they don't have HT so HT-related exploits do not work.
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#30
WikiFM
bugBecause modifying anything required redesigned masks (i.e. additional costs).
So if they did it with Whiskey Lake and CF-Refresh (the cheapest platforms), why not Skylake X Refresh? Where the customers are most likely to spend more.
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#31
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WikiFMSo if they did it with Whiskey Lake and CF-Refresh (the cheapest platforms), why not Skylake X Refresh? Where the customers are most likely to spend more.
How would I know? Something to do with their bean counters, I guess.
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