Tuesday, November 6th 2018
GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Supply is Reportedly Dwindling, Prices on the Rise
Multiple sources confirmed to GamersNexus that the GTX 1080 Ti is starting to be really difficult to find. Supplies are decreasing and the reason seems to be clear: NVIDIA could have stopped the production of those graphics cards. This has had an immediate effect on these cards' prices, which in the last few days have increased everywhere in the world. The performance differences with the new GeForce RTX 2080 are not that important if you don't need the RT part of the equation -we could confirm this on our own review-, but the price of these new graphics card have made considering a 1080 Ti a viable option for many users that are looking to upgrade their systems.
Prices for the RTX 2080 start at $769 at Newegg for example, while the cheapest GTX 1080 Ti costs $850 there. The story is the same at Amazon, where we can find the cheapest RTX 2080 at $799,99 versus the $878.12 for a used model of the GTX 1080 Ti. The high-end model of the Pascal series competes directly with the RTX 2080 and was cheaper not long ago, but that's not the story now. With prices climbing, some are claiming the same will happen to the GTX 1080, GTX 1070 or GTX 1070 Ti in the next few weeks. Reports of RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti inexplicably dying on users could also be fueling consumer-fear, as well as a [temporary] erosion in the value proposition of the RTX 20-series itself, as Microsoft pulled Windows 10 1809 Update, leaving fewer people with DirectX Ray-tracing, the software foundation for RTX.
Source:
GamersNexus
Prices for the RTX 2080 start at $769 at Newegg for example, while the cheapest GTX 1080 Ti costs $850 there. The story is the same at Amazon, where we can find the cheapest RTX 2080 at $799,99 versus the $878.12 for a used model of the GTX 1080 Ti. The high-end model of the Pascal series competes directly with the RTX 2080 and was cheaper not long ago, but that's not the story now. With prices climbing, some are claiming the same will happen to the GTX 1080, GTX 1070 or GTX 1070 Ti in the next few weeks. Reports of RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti inexplicably dying on users could also be fueling consumer-fear, as well as a [temporary] erosion in the value proposition of the RTX 20-series itself, as Microsoft pulled Windows 10 1809 Update, leaving fewer people with DirectX Ray-tracing, the software foundation for RTX.
84 Comments on GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Supply is Reportedly Dwindling, Prices on the Rise
and heres an article from the inquirer quoting the German website
Nothing solid. but production had to have stopped some time between now and last october/November which is what these websites are saying and that kind of makes sense as stocks have dwindled.
Steve has a lot of contacts within the industry and as long as i have watched his videos, his opinions, news reports and reviews have always been unbiased. But sure.... If hes not credible enough for you then youre going to have to do your own digging.
Nvidia dont have any obligation to announce that they are stopping production of X Y or Z product. Sometimes they do but that doesnt mean they have to eveytime just like they silently change the specs on some of their lower end cards.
nobody forces you to pay 500-600$ for a CPU just to play video games, you can get a R5 2600 for 160$ and I bet it'll be faster than what next gen consoles will have to offer.
The only real issue is the GPU market which can be fixed once AMD releases their next gen 7nm GPUs, of course AMD offerings won't be performance champions but can at least bring value to the GPU market again.
The issue is the card manufacturers aren't ordering the chips, and aren't manufacturing 1080Ti's anymore. And that makes sense, they only have so much production capacity, and it doesn't make sense to continue to produce an older product that has been replaced in the product stack.
Not anything shocking really. I see this happen because there is no price cap on etailers
the fact they dont have many 1080ti cards listed and no pre-orders tends to tell its own story.. they will just quietly become unavailable.. apart from the used ebay option
there does seem to be loads of 1070 and 1070ti cards available.. there will be a demand for these because there is no 20 series alternatives..
out of all the new card options available the 2070 is sat there looking good at £500-ish
trog
Gamers Nexus is not a site I'd recommend for reliable information. But it is fun to speculate. Vendors will play with pricing prior to the holidays, always do. And you can't have a HUGE price discount w/o actually edging prices in advance. Your 10% off sale will have more of an impact if you raise prices 10% beforehand and than put up ads saying 20% off.
Aside from that.... 1080 Ti market share drop[ped slightly from 1.54% to 1.53% ... so doesn't seem like any 'watershed" moment ha spassed. Many things are possibilities ... with the 20xx series announced and in stores, did vendors go safe and hedge on their orders for 10xx series cards and new stock is in transit ? We have no reliable information either way and it will eb 2 weeks or more before we are in a better position to make a reasonable interpretation. We have 5 build lists this week for folks, non eof whuch are going foirward ... all sitting tight until Black Friday sales . Common business sense. It's one thing having a product ready to demonstrate ... it's another having a product that you can make in a fiscally responsible manner. A paper launch occurs when a competitor launches a product and they don't want consumer to blow their wad of money on that competitor's product ... a paper launch give a "let's wait and see" pause. In any new launch, there's the time where you can get yields off the production line to demo ... another when you can get them out to reviewers and in small quantities to stores but can not meet demand. And then there's production yields that can actually keep up with demand.... that point has abviously not been reached give the problems affecting a significant number of users.
But here we have a unique situation. There is no competitive product. At this point, we'd be in the low yield short supply stage but uniquely in this case, there was still a lot of 10xx stock and the 20xx yields are still low that they decided "Hey, lets put these new cards coming off w/ low yields in stores to get some cash flow ... because so many consumers lack impulse control, we can sel these at exorbitant prices. It will make our old cards look like a bargain, we get free press and we can get all the no impulse control folks to spill $200 more of the hard earned cash... the proverbial win-win-win situation". Is this just more proof of a company that is singularly greedy ? No, it's just capitalism and it's what any company not only would do but is required to do under current law. As long as they are not breaking laws, or hurting long term business prospects, all corporate boards have a fiscal responsibility to shareholders to maximize profits. If they can't get necessary working yields out of the 2xxx series production lines to meet demand, they must serve the market ... and the most logical means to do that is to sell 10xx series cards till they yield improves on 2xxx.
If the 2070 was more like £450-480 im sure they would be snapped up. Even better if it was £400-450. Because its such a bad long term investment. I know there are a lot of enthusiasts out there who live in the 'here' and the 'now' universe so dont care but not everyone has deep pockets or enough disposable income to upgrade a GPU every year.
10 series is going to be in great demand while people sit on their hands and wait for the next generation or dawn of a new age... Ray Tracing.
your logic is a tad flawed.. :)
trog
I was going to say something about you trying to justify your purchase but since you have a 2080Ti i cant really say that.
Hmmmm whats a good witty comeback?? Your wallet/bank account is flawed. its missing £1250
but i do think the 2070 just for its price performance levels for those that want a high end budget card is the one to buy.. me i might well have bought two of the buggers if they hadnt gimped the sli option..
trog
i had a pair of 1070 cards in sli... moving to a pair of 2070 cards in sli for about a grand would have given me a nice 30% to 40% performance boost.. as it is now i spent a lot of money for (depending on scaling) sometimes not much of a performance upgrade.. still in about six months time when my wallet has recovered and i get the upgrade itch i can just buy another f-cking 2080ti.. he he he.. at least i have a clear upgrade path.. ;)
trog