Friday, November 23rd 2018
Bethesda Continues to Struggle With Fallout 76, Refunds Now a Possibility
With the release of Fallout 76 a week ago, Bethesda continues the tradition of releasing buggy games that are full of glitches and issues. These problems are always expected to come from Bethesda; typically the game is still fun however unlike previous titles, Fallout 76 is has been universally panned by gamers and critics alike. At this point, some of the bugs, exploits, and problems are just hilariously bad. Tools such as Nukacrypt are already available online, using only a partial code it can decrypt the in-game nuclear launch codes drastically speeding up the overall process. Keeping with nuke theme, players working together were able to crash a Bethesda server by launching three nukes simultaneously. There are more glaring examples but when you add them to the laundry list of problems its begins to look pretty bad even for Bethesda.
Then there is Brogadyn on Reddit, who for a week now has been stuck in a semi-god mode. Usually that would be something to rejoice about but in this case, has caused many issues with the game's mechanics as the player is seen to have 0 HP. Worse yet, Bethesda has been dragging their feet when it comes to looking into the problem with Brogadyn speculating that they could reproduce the issue based on the circumstances in which the issue occurred. When you consider all this along with the general bugs, glitches, and problems that are typically a minor annoyance, you end up with a game that likely should have stayed in beta.
In general Fallout 76 is currently such a mess that the game is already discounted by $20 just about everywhere, including from Bethesda themselves. Adding to the problem is the sad fact gameplay is considered quite dull making for a perfect storm where it was only a matter of time before the refund chant would begin which is likely sooner rather than later thanks to Fernando, a user on the Resetera forums, who has supposedly managed to receive a refund from Bethesda directly. Meaning if you bought the game elsewhere you might be out of luck, but if you bought it directly from Bethesda, you might stand a chance at getting your money back.
Still looking at Steam and its current refund policy it is highly likely the game would already be experiencing a massive number of refunds if it was available on that distribution platform. Bethesda's avoidance of Steam on this title means they are in control of refunds which with no clearly defined terms leaves a lot of questions unanswered. That said, considering Bethesda warned everyone how buggy the game would be I guess no one should be surprised by the current events.
Sources:
Bethesda, Resetera, Youtube, Kotaku
Then there is Brogadyn on Reddit, who for a week now has been stuck in a semi-god mode. Usually that would be something to rejoice about but in this case, has caused many issues with the game's mechanics as the player is seen to have 0 HP. Worse yet, Bethesda has been dragging their feet when it comes to looking into the problem with Brogadyn speculating that they could reproduce the issue based on the circumstances in which the issue occurred. When you consider all this along with the general bugs, glitches, and problems that are typically a minor annoyance, you end up with a game that likely should have stayed in beta.
Still looking at Steam and its current refund policy it is highly likely the game would already be experiencing a massive number of refunds if it was available on that distribution platform. Bethesda's avoidance of Steam on this title means they are in control of refunds which with no clearly defined terms leaves a lot of questions unanswered. That said, considering Bethesda warned everyone how buggy the game would be I guess no one should be surprised by the current events.
127 Comments on Bethesda Continues to Struggle With Fallout 76, Refunds Now a Possibility
Seriously, people need to learn how to properly use the word "racism" or "racist". Using it incorrectly or constantly when it's not warranted devalues the word or teaches people the wrong meaning of it.
Racism:
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
Bethesda not wanting to do a refund for you or anyone else is not a form of racism. You could argue that they're discriminating against you, but you'd still need a solid ground to back up your idea. Hopefully this will help better guide your decisions of not pre-ordering games in the future.
www.pcgamer.com/fallout-76-drops-in-price-again-to-dollar35/
The “level up” games are the ones that make people want to preorder so they aren’t behind their piers. I’ve never worried that much about such things, and I’m a Destiny 2 player.
Also game not being in Steam is a huge minus for me.
i'll bety you have to go see them first well before yopu get to fully load and install and play ...lol suckers ..
back in the real pc game days you got the full game on a disk or disks with out the need of 3ed party / internet connection and all required . then if it was a bad game like see with this one you take it back to wal mart and get your money back
last I reall like steam don't give refunds just credit toward something else . then don't for get with a full game disk like it use to be you hold the full software not a steam / uplay / orgin rental . the disk is yours forever to load install and play as you want . not needing to see that 3ed party or lose your account or what ever and your harddrive or something fails you got nothing with out them . with a full good ol' retail disk just reload and play at your convince not theres unless the full retail disk gets physically destroyed is the only way I can loose my games not cause of a 3ed party like steam done me in somehow ..lol.. oh.. then I don't have a steam / uplay / orggin client collecting my data or slipping content / updates under my nose.
also look how bethesta drug Id's good name through the mud .
store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/
use to be a lot of griping on that
like from this ''so long as the DLC has not been consumed, modified or transferred '' modified ? like you try to install the game and they do there uploads and content and all to it first = modified .
heres one more thing
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you must have a Steam Account and you may be required to be running the Steam client and maintaining a connection to the Internet.
For reasons that include, without limitation, system security, stability, and multiplayer interoperability, Steam may need to automatically update, pre-load, create new versions of or otherwise enhance the Content and Services and accordingly, the system requirements to use the Content and Services may change over time. You consent to such automatic updating
ley wording here ' without limitation '' you just turned your computer / hard drive over to them [who ever they are ?? ] my system security ? stability ? YA sure !! I AGREE !! a guy got to be pretty dense or knuckle headed to agree to something like that
over just to play one of these crap games . ya they see you coming a mile away
real pc games on the full retail disk you use in private no steam / uplay / origin or internet required or downloads content or there foot in your hard drives ..
pretty sad how willing folks are to give all that up over a cheap buggy game . then say how great it is [ya, great for them not you ]
any way enjoy
This statement is in the context of the content you have on Steam. Not in the context of your PC. So yes, when running the application(s), wouldn't you want Steam to have the consent to improve the stability and operability/functionality of it? The medium that the data to improve (update) the application through is Steam. As provider of the data, they have the obligation to make sure it does not harm your system's security. For example, this means they won't be installing a rootkit or fiddle with the Windows kernel. And if they create a leak, they will need to close it.
You reading that as turning over your hard drive or PC to them so they can hijack it in some way is ridiculous and it wouldn't stand a day in court, nor are there ANY examples of Steam doing anything nefarious like that. Get real and take off the tin-foil hat...
If you are worried about all that, you need to disconnect the internet since someone else's computer could sneeze and yours might catch it.Edit:
As Vayra said, they have no interest in your hard drive contents. Only in making sure their platform can suck all the money out of your wallet it can. Which means an updated, secure, and optimized application. Besides, they make far more money selling people games than looking at people's youporn habits.