Tuesday, January 29th 2019

AMD Radeon VII 3D Mark, Final Fantasy XV Benchmarks Surface - Beats and Loses to RTX 2080

Benchmarks of AMD's upcoming Radeon VII graphics card have surfaced, courtesy of the one and only, graphics card info and results leaker extraordinaire Tum Apisak. In these scores, and looking purely at the graphics portion of the benchmarks, AMD's solution really does seem to bring the fight to NVIDIA's RTX 2080 - no small feat, considering that it's mostly a shrunk-down version of AMD's previous-gen Vega with overcharged memory and core clocks.

The Radeon VII scores, according to Tum Apisak (take it with a grain of salt), 27400 on the FireStrike test; 13400 on the FIreStrike Extreme bench; 6800 on the FireStrike Ultra test; and finally, 8700 points on Time Spy. Consulting 3D Mark's database, it seems that factory-overclocked RTX 2080 graphics cards usually score around 27000 points on the FIreStrike base and 6400 points on the FireStrike Ultra tests, which means that at least in this synthetic scenario, AMD's graphics card ekes out a win.
Results also surfaced for Final Fantasy XV's integrated benchmark, where the tables are more than turned, however, with AMD's Radeon VII scoring just 300 points higher than the RTX 2070 graphics card, and 1200 points lower than the RTX 2080 AMD wants it to compete against on the standard preset at 2560 x 1440 resolution. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but Final Fantasy XV is an NVIDIA optimized title, if you'll remember, which might help explain why AMD's Radeon VII plunges in performance as soon as you take it up to the high preset at the same resolution: it now stands a laughable 300 points above NVIDIA's GTX 980 Ti, which is... I'll let you fire off in the comments.
Sources: via VideoCardz, Komachi, Tum Apisak's Twitter
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54 Comments on AMD Radeon VII 3D Mark, Final Fantasy XV Benchmarks Surface - Beats and Loses to RTX 2080

#26
XXL_AI
beats? are you blind?
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#27
Metroid
i'm not liking what i'm seeing, hopefully ryzen 3rd gen won't have disappointing results like the radeon vii.
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#28
phanbuey
efikkanBut then technically AMD has never explicitly stated that it's actually on par with RTX 2080.
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#29
Minus Infinity
For $700 and the same lame power consumption as current Vega it would want to stomp the 2070 and match the 2080. Still had no interest in Vega II, when is Navi coming?
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#30
bobbyroonee
will the only 2 people that ever buy it let us know if it's any good? thanks in advance.
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#31
jaggerwild
bobbyrooneewill the only 2 people that ever buy it let us know if it's any good? thanks in advance.
Ill buy it simply to support a second gpu option, if you dont have a $1200 Ngreedia then you need to stop flaming a new site... .
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#32
NicklasAPJ
The Timespy score is really low, there is something worng there.
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#33
Nkd
Tsukiyomi91Why say it "beats" the 2080 when it was getting butchered all over the place, let alone embarrassingly getting beaten by a 1080Ti at 1440p?? So much for a Vega refresh & the use of HBM v2...
Its frickin FFXV benchmark. Who gives a flying f about that. Worst thing to bench with, I don't think AMD gives 2 shi*ts about that lol. Someone clearly wanted to troll the card. this is when you only release the worst benchmark known to mankind. FFXV can't die fast enough.
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#35
cucker tarlson
NkdIts frickin FFXV benchmark. Who gives a flying f about that. Worst thing to bench with, I don't think AMD gives 2 shi*ts about that lol. Someone clearly wanted to troll the card. this is when you only release the worst benchmark known to mankind. FFXV can't die fast enough.
:roll:
looks like they succeeded in one thing.making the red fanbease red.
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#36
Prima.Vera
Common guys, this card is in the same league for price/performance as the RTX 2070 card, with a little plus for the AMD card. That's all. I'm worried about power consumption though....
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#37
Tsukiyomi91
@cucker tarlson good one. Also, if there's someone who want to "troll" a Vega refresh, I don't think there is when AMD's supposedly new GPU is performing this badly. Let's all wait for official reviews from here, Linus, Jayz etc and then we say our opinions at a future thread/post regarding about it? Can we all be patient for it?
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#38
Blueberries
The Radeon VII is AMD's cry for help.

I think AMD better find something they're good at and stick to it... and fast. Remember not that long ago when AMD stock was $2/share? If Zen 2 doesn't impress it's about to hit rock bottom. They may have fanboys but they're sure as hell losing actual market confidence.
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#39
Tsukiyomi91
@Blueberries problem here is that AMD has been playing this game with one hand behind their backs, doesn't matter the consequences & having such persistence can't be understood by anyone. Unless, they have some sort of ace in their pockets... until then, I won't see them recovering until they managed to get some traction from Nvidia's growing, uninterrupted presence in the GPU market space.
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#40
yeeeeman
What exactly did you expect? Lets get to the point, this is a Vega GPU with less CUs and higher clocks on GPU and memory.
It can't do wonders...
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#41
Xuper
Who leaked those bench? Do AMD employers know about crap FFXV bench? every time that they want to announce new card , FFXV always comes to first , I wonder why is that?
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#42
jabbadap
Prima.VeraCommon guys, this card is in the same league for price/performance as the RTX 2070 card, with a little plus for the AMD card. That's all. I'm worried about power consumption though....
Uhm you can get RTX 2070 for $499, this ones msrp is $699. And last time I checked RTX 2080 price/perf was bad, even at $699(Granted there's no $699 cards tested on tpu, but overall performance deficit does not warrant $200 price gap between the two).
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#43
Ruru
S.T.A.R.S.
Those results look shady. Why does Titan Xp Collectors Edition score much lower than a normal Titan Xp? Also Radeon is almost on par with GTX 980 Ti, seems totally BS.
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#44
EarthDog
Tsukiyomi91@cucker tarlson good one. Also, if there's someone who want to "troll" a Vega refresh, I don't think there is when AMD's supposedly new GPU is performing this badly. Let's all wait for official reviews from here, Linus, Jayz etc and then we say our opinions at a future thread/post regarding about it? Can we all be patient for it?
Its a sad day when linus and j2c are deemed "official" reviews. Lol
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#45
phill
EarthDogIts a sad day when linus and j2c are deemed "official" reviews. Lol
They seem to 'control' Youtube, so I'm guessing that's where most people get information to or from. I like Jay not so keen on Linus but as with anything, I take it with a pinch of salt until I hear from TPUand a few other sites, if they are all singing from the same hymn sheet or near enough, then that's good enough for me :)
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#46
siluro818
BlueberriesThe Radeon VII is AMD's cry for help.

I think AMD better find something they're good at and stick to it... and fast. Remember not that long ago when AMD stock was $2/share? If Zen 2 doesn't impress it's about to hit rock bottom. They may have fanboys but they're sure as hell losing actual market confidence.
They are the only company from the big hardware trio that has increased their market valuation for 2018 - something that has been over all tech sites the last couple of days - so why write stuff with your butt and waste my time explaining obvious stuff to you? xD
jabbadapUhm you can get RTX 2070 for $499, this ones msrp is $699. And last time I checked RTX 2080 price/perf was bad, even at $699(Granted there's no $699 cards tested on tpu, but overall performance deficit does not warrant $200 price gap between the two).
He means price/performance ratio, not price/performance class.
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#47
jabbadap
siluro818They are the only company from the big hardware trio that has increased their market valuation for 2018 - something that has been over all tech sites the last couple of days - so why write stuff with your butt and waste my time explaining obvious stuff to you? xD


He means price/performance ratio, not price/performance class.
RTX 2080 performance at rtx 2080 price, thus perf/price would be the same. Granted perf/price might be the same as $599 RTX 2070 FE/AIB versions, but overall that is a bad buy compared to cards closer to msrp.
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#48
Franzen4Real
Vayra86I'm not expecting many surprises here. Its likely going to end up within spitting range of a stock 2080 and lacks the OC headroom. Vega all over again.

As for this FFXV 'benchmark'... please. Stahp. Its completely unreliable.
I think this sounds reasonable. Perhaps the new style cooler will allow for a little more headroom? It would have been nice to see them come in price wise slightly under the non-OC'd 2080's.

At this point with what is widely known about this "benchmark", I honestly feel that if someone is making that their 'go-to' for any sort of comparison tool that they are intentionally looking to skew results at worst, or muddy the waters at best. I can get wildly varying scores on back to back to back runs every time. It needs to go away permanently for anything other than someone that wants to visually see differences in motion between AA and DLSS. It serves no other purpose. With as much time and work that goes into benchmarking, it boggles my mind why some willingly wastes theirs just to publish results that lack any real use (clickbait, apparently) at the expense of their own credibility.
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#49
Tsukiyomi91
@Franzen4Real also, I doubt the folks here have such luxury to write a "plz lemme loan this GPU for a few days" letter while waiting for NDA to be lifted, use current beta build drivers, install a clean copy of Windows etc when they don't even bother doing it. All they can muster up to defend it is links to other sites or videos that has little to no credibility.
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#50
Manoa
I think as we can see 1080 Ti faster than vega 60 it look like AMD don't care graphics at all, they know his speed and made him anyway but whay ? if you know the speed is bad and speed/price is bad too whay make the card anyway ? shouldn't be more smart to not do nothing and save the money for making a mutch better card ?
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