Friday, February 8th 2019
No AMD Radeon "Navi" Before October: Report
AMD "Navi" is the company's next-generation graphics architecture succeeding "Vega" and will leverage the 7 nm silicon fabrication process. It was originally slated to launch mid-2019, with probable unveiling on the sidelines of Computex (early-June). Cowcotland reports that AMD has delayed its plans to launch "Navi" all the way to October (Q4-2019). The delay probably has something to do with AMD's 7 nm foundry allocation for the year.
AMD is now fully reliant on TSMC to execute its 7 nm product roadmap, which includes its entire 2nd generation EPYC and 3rd generation Ryzen processors based on the "Zen 2" architecture, and to a smaller extent, GPUs based on its 2nd generation "Vega" architecture, such as the recently launched Radeon VII. We expect the first "Navi" discrete GPU to be a lean, fast-moving product that succeeds "Polaris 30." In addition to 7 nm, it could incorporate faster SIMD units, higher clock-speeds, and a relatively cost-effective memory solution, such as GDDR6.
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Cowcotland
AMD is now fully reliant on TSMC to execute its 7 nm product roadmap, which includes its entire 2nd generation EPYC and 3rd generation Ryzen processors based on the "Zen 2" architecture, and to a smaller extent, GPUs based on its 2nd generation "Vega" architecture, such as the recently launched Radeon VII. We expect the first "Navi" discrete GPU to be a lean, fast-moving product that succeeds "Polaris 30." In addition to 7 nm, it could incorporate faster SIMD units, higher clock-speeds, and a relatively cost-effective memory solution, such as GDDR6.
135 Comments on No AMD Radeon "Navi" Before October: Report
NAVI IS A BRAND NEW GPU ARCHITECTURE FROM THE GROUND UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not a fan boy either, im using a evga gtx 1080 hybrid gaming 8gb card right now, but im sick of nvidias gpus... high cost, and rtx is not even a decent upgrade for me, and the rtx 2080 is only maybe a 30-40% performance increase from my gtx 1080..
and price of 700-900 bucks... NO THANKS NVIDIA.. ILL WAIT AND SEE WHAT AMD DOES WITH NAVI IN OCTOBER
Edit: This is what the roadmap looks like currently: wccftech.com/amd-radeon-update-7nm-vega-2018-navi-2019/
Next-gen is only what comes after Navi, so Navi is still the architecture that doesn't scale to high-end :( (And yes, I know it's wtftech, but that slide appears on other sites as well)
The slides I can find from back to 2016 only states "next gen memory" for Navi.
Edit: Even so, it's pretty clear there's no "next gen memory" to be unveiled this year, so I'm still not sure what Navi is supposed to be.
Unless I am not reading this right, its going to be a version of Navi, maybe the high end or maybe the midrange that will be a brand new GPU. But recently rumours claim Navi is delayed. So who knows. But this is the source nevertheless. Mark my Words, a new GPU Design by AMD will not be GCN Based. PERIOD. :D
Navi is a new architecture (just like Vega was) but that doesn't necessarily mean it significantly deviates from GCN. That's a good thing because people still rocking 7970s will still get continued support.
AMD needs a ZEN type success with its GPU business. :D:D
If GCN can do this I'm all for it. So far they've been trying for years now. No success.
2018
AMD - $6.48 bn revenue
nVidia - $9.71 bn revenue
NAVI LAUNCH Coming SOON
It was also reported that Ryzen CPUs are being placed on sale to clear inventory for ZEN2. And we might end up seeing a launch sometime around May 2019. Availability June 2019.
AMD Slashes Ryzen Prices for ZEN2 room.
And lastly, how accurate is this? Found it on Wccftech by a poster lol,
IF there is any truth to this, Oh My. Look at this with a Grain of Salt, couldn't find anything on Tom's Hardware, just there Forums with random posters.
The naming scheme doesn't make any sense for the alleged performance. On top of that, what 20 games does RTX 2080 Ti get an average of 294.8 fps? I bet Quake III is in there with 1000+ fps.
It's a grain of salt nevertheless.
The naming looks like it's from here.
videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-navi-gpus-spotted-in-macos-mohave-update
FIRST AND FOREMOST, GCN 1 to GCN 4 is a COMPLETELY different architecture. Vega is a completely new architecture to top it off as well, internally they never even called Vega GCN, they always called in Vega, as a codename and later as official monkier.
Nvidia's latest Turning architecture is basically their old GTX 400 architecture on steroids. Even their GTX 400 architecture was an evolution from their GTX 200 architecture, which was Nvidia's foray into unified shaders. What has happened is that Nvidia has been continually been improving their GTX 200 architecture and over the last 12 years reached the current architecture called Turing, which is in essence their 12 years old architecture from their GTX 200 series.
Just because Nvidia have been giving different code names to their architectures, doesn't mean its a new architecture. And alternatively AMD giving the same GCN name doesn't mean its the same architecture.
So this garbage that has been propagated how GCN is the same architecture, while Nvidia magically creates brand new 100% different architecture every two years is a mega ton of horse manure. Nvidia's current architecture dates back to their GTX 200 series. That is 12 years! Is it fair to call it the same architecture? Well according to Nvidishillboys then yes, Turing the GTX 200 arch is exactly the same.
If anything AMD have been reinventing their architectures a lot more, which is part of the problem. They've never stuck long term like Nvidia to an arch and improved it over time, reiterative process over 12 years. They've done a lot more clean states.