Friday, February 15th 2019

NVIDIA Reports Q4 and 2018 Financial Results - Down 45%

NVIDIA today reported revenue for the fourth quarter ended Jan. 27, 2019, of $2.21 billion, down 24 percent from $2.91 billion a year earlier, and down 31 percent from $3.18 billion in the previous quarter. GAAP earnings per diluted share for the quarter were $0.92, down 48 percent from $1.78 a year ago and down 53 percent from $1.97 in the previous quarter. Non-GAAP earnings per diluted share were $0.80, down 53 percent from $1.72 a year earlier and down 57 percent from $1.84 in the previous quarter. For fiscal 2019, revenue was $11.72 billion, up 21 percent from $9.71 billion a year earlier. GAAP earnings per diluted share were $6.63, up 38 percent from $4.82 a year earlier. Non-GAAP earnings per diluted share were $6.64, up 35 percent from $4.92 a year earlier.
"This was a turbulent close to what had been a great year," said Jensen Huang, founder and CEO of NVIDIA. "The combination of post-crypto excess channel inventory and recent deteriorating end-market conditions drove a disappointing quarter.

"Despite this setback, NVIDIA's fundamental position and the markets we serve are strong. The accelerated computing platform we pioneered is central to some of world's most important and fastest growing industries - from artificial intelligence to autonomous vehicles to robotics. We fully expect to return to sustained growth," he said.

Capital Return
In fiscal 2019, NVIDIA returned $1.95 billion to shareholders through a combination of $1.58 billion in share repurchases and $371 million in quarterly cash dividends.

Of the $3.00 billion NVIDIA intends to return to shareholders by the end of fiscal 2020, $700 million in share repurchases were completed in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2019. The company intends to return the remaining $2.30 billion by the end of fiscal 2020, through a combination of share repurchases and cash dividends.

NVIDIA will pay its next quarterly cash dividend of $0.16 per share on March 22, 2019, to all shareholders of record on March 1, 2019.

NVIDIA's outlook for the first quarter of fiscal 2020 is as follows:
  • Revenue is expected to be $2.20 billion, plus or minus 2 percent.
  • GAAP and non-GAAP gross margins are expected to be 58.8 percent and 59.0 percent, respectively, plus or minus 50 basis points.
  • GAAP and non-GAAP operating expenses are expected to be approximately $930 million and $755 million, respectively.
  • GAAP and non-GAAP other income and expense are both expected to be income of approximately $20 million.
  • GAAP and non-GAAP tax rates are both expected to be 10 percent, plus or minus 1 percent, excluding any discrete items. GAAP discrete items include excess tax benefits or deficiencies related to stock-based compensation, which are expected to generate variability on a quarter by quarter basis.
For fiscal 2020, revenue is expected to be flat to down slightly.

Latest Highlights
Since the end of the third quarter, NVIDIA has achieved progress in these areas:

Datacenter
  • Announced that the NVIDIA T4 GPU launched in public beta on Google Cloud Platform, with availability in the U.S., Europe, Brazil, India, Japan, and Singapore.
  • Set six records in AI performance with the release of MLPerf, the industry's first objective set of AI benchmarks.
  • Announced with Google the integration of NVIDIA's RAPIDS GPU-accelerated data science libraries with Kubeflow Pipelines, a Kubernetes-based platform for deploying and managing machine learning workloads in hyperscale datacenters.
Gaming
  • Launched the GeForce RTX 2060 GPU, putting exceptional performance and graphics enhanced by ray tracing and AI within reach of tens of millions of gamers.
  • Unveiled a record 40+ new gaming laptops in over 100 configurations powered by NVIDIA GeForce RTX GPUs.
  • Expanded its G-SYNC ecosystem with G-SYNC-compatible monitors, tested and driver-optimized by NVIDIA.
  • Announced that Battlefield V, the first real-time ray tracing game, will add DLSS AI super-sampling technology; that the highly anticipated game Anthem will integrate DLSS; and that Justice, one of China's most popular MMO games, will add ray tracing and DLSS.
Professional Visualization
  • Introduced Quadro RTX 4000, bringing real-time ray tracing to millions of midrange workstation users.
  • Announced the NVIDIA CUDA -accelerated REDCODE RAW decode SDK, in collaboration with RED Digital Cinema, enabling developers and studios to edit 8K video in real time without the need for additional video processors.
Automotive
  • Introduced NVIDIA DRIVE AutoPilot, the world's first commercially available Level 2+ automated driving system, with Tier 1 suppliers Continental and ZF announcing the availability of Level 2+ solutions based on NVIDIA DRIVE in 2020.
  • Announced with Mercedes-Benz that it will create a centralized computing architecture for the automaker's next-generation vehicles, enabling them to be software-defined AI cars.
Edge Computing
  • Launched the NVIDIA Jetson AGX Xavier , a palm-sized module delivering 32 TOPS to help build the next generation of autonomous machines.
  • Opened its AI and Robotics Research Lab in Seattle.
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56 Comments on NVIDIA Reports Q4 and 2018 Financial Results - Down 45%

#26
Aerpoweron
As long as the stock marked does not ruin the tech for us, i can live with it.

A coworker thinks Elon Musk did it on purpose.
RobcostyleKeep in mind, that they get it all at gross price, level of optimization of operating expenses in this kind of companies is astonishing, it's always all together - poor or mediocre quality components, choice of cheapest supply routes - by sea, by air if it is cheaper than delivery of jam from your grandma, and etc.,etc. - otherwise you would never get all this tech - rtx2080ti, iPhone, your brand new TV or car or fridge - at anything close to "affordable", at all.
Sadly have to agree to that. I had GPU fans which broke. It was almost impossible to replacements from them. I even lost 2 GPUs from the official RMA route and only got a coupon. And it wasn't high enough to get an equally powerful GPU. Just because of broken fans.
After some digging it turned out that the reseller has special contracts with the manufacturer.
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#27
unikin
RobcostyleYes, roughly 100$ per tu102 chip. It is MASS PRODUCT, people! Margin they have from every single card is enormous! From 200-300% in worst case, probably up to 1000%! I don’t understand why you people keep sympathizing ngreedia and their chip “complexity “
This is a bit too much. According to Anandtech and Gamer Nexus Nvidia is targeting 50-60 % profit margin for their retail GPU gaming products. That hasn't changed when going from Maxwell/Pascal to Turing. The problem NVidia has with Turing is large die and rather expensive GDDR6 ram. So Nvidia had to choose between lower sales or lower profit margins. As their large shareholders expressed unwillingness to go with lower profit margins route, the only path left for them was to rise the prices and suffer lower sales. That being said, they're still way better positioned than AMD is right now. Radeon 7 costs $450-550 to make alone (excluding almost non existent marketing costs for this particular release). Selling it for $700 gives them half the Nvidia's profit margins at best but probably much less. That's why AMD's not in a hurry to sell R7 in large quantities. Similar story is with Vega 56/64.
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#28
M2B
RobcostyleKeep in mind, that they get it all at gross price, level of optimization of operating expenses in this kind of companies is astonishing, it's always all together - poor or mediocre quality components, choice of cheapest supply routes - by sea, by air if it is cheaper than delivery of jam from your grandma, and etc.,etc. - otherwise you would never get all this tech - rtx2080ti, iPhone, your brand new TV or car or fridge - at anything close to "affordable", at all.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
RTX Cards are overpriced sure but 2080Ti has the most efficient and powerful VRM on the market. More efficient than that of a Radeon VII (according to buildzoid) and any other reference designs out there. It's probably the best VRM on a reference card ever (I'm not sure though).
Even the vaper chamber that nvidia is using on their FE cards is fairly expensive.
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#29
londiste
unikinAccording to Anandtech and Gamer Nexus Nvidia is targeting 50-60 % profit margin for their retail GPU gaming products.
The story here says Nvidia's gross margin this quarter was 54.7%. This includes everything they do and consumer graphics cards are more than likely with the lowest margin in their product portfolio.
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#30
Aerpoweron
I think we all can agree on, that it is good, when a company earns money. So they are here in the future. And as long as AMD is even trying to be some kind of competition it is good too.

When you look at the overall Nvidia stock market prices, they still do very well. These 45% down is just something to catch us, even call it clickbait. And actually where did they go 45% down. And an what timespan. The article does not even say. (i just searched for 45, and the only match was in the headline^^)
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#31
Robcostyle
AerpoweronAfter some digging it turned out that the reseller has special contracts with the manufacturer.
And that's only tip of the iceberg
M2BYou clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
You think? Whereas I think you've came here just to troll...
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#32
M2B
RobcostyleWhereas I think you've came here just to troll...
Saying that nvidia's profit margin on each card is up to 1000% sounds more like a troll, doesn't it?
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#33
R0H1T
RobcostyleI think youre not getting the full picture of the market... you see, these “losses” untied huangs hands for further price rise. Revenue loss == higher prices.
And there is 2 awfull things that will make him to do so 100%: its shareholders and his own greed.
And then when you think Intel & possibly AMD - if they ever release anything remotely competitive on 7nm - where does JHH run then with these ridiculous prices? If Nvidia aren't careful history will bite them hard like it has done to corporations much bigger than Nvidia in the past, lots of them are pounding the indomitable Sands of time.
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#34
bajs11
should have given us a ~800 USD gpu to replace the GTX 1080Ti
and ~700 USD gpu to replace the gtx 1080
instead of the two overpriced rtx cards
pretty sure they would have sold whole a lot more gpus to gamers
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#35
Unregistered
FordGT90ConceptNvidia full-year sales outlook tops analyst views; shares rise

They're really taking NVIDIA's word for it? I see nothing in this report that warrants NVIDIA shares going up 8% as it did. Me thinks NVIDIA could get in trouble for being too optimistic.
To nvidia's credit their stock doing a bit better than I'd anticipated. Shares going up on a bounce is normal as low buy orders get filled. Now to see if these gains are sustained, or if nvidia is being "over optimistic" again... if they lie in anticipation of catching up by spending more money sooner or later that catches up with these companies.
#36
Litzner
Vayra86Thing is, AMD can still fight the 2060 with their ancient Vega die without any problem.
I have been holding on to a aging GTX 970 and I just finally got tired of waiting for the prices to come down on the new Nvidia cards and picked up a nice Vega 56 (hopefully with Samsung memory) for dirt cheap to tide me over until Navi releases and hopefully competitive prices return. I do love this 970, I have never held on to a graphics card for so long, but I could never validate upgrading with all the price gouging we had been seeing.
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#37
PerfectWave
"The more you buy, the more you save " ...
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#38
Robcostyle
M2BSaying that nvidia's profit margin on each card is up to 1000% sounds more like a troll, doesn't it?
Just an assumption - but I'm 100% sure they're not selling it with "only" 10% margin.
for example - iphone x had 300% margin, there was alot discussion on that matter - and iphone is a ready-to-go device, with screen, electronics, battery, packaging, etc.
Here we have only chip itself, vram and electric circuit parts. Chips can't be that much more expensive than those iphone has - despite being much more powerfull. That is unit failure percentage, engineering makes a major part of chip's cost, not the complexity at fabrication - and apple also has all those, however much less complicated.
Vram - yeah, that depends on even more greedy samsung and micron.
Circuit parts - beleive me, the ones they use in FE - it's far away from top notch - it is just good, and does the job well, but it doesn't mean vrm is "golden".

All that said, iphone x and 2080 ti have the same price on the market. And everyone says apple got nuts these days - so what about ngreedia?
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#40
64K
Combination of the mining craze mostly died out and a lot of used cards hit the market and the ridiculously high prices set by Nvidia.
We used to get high end cards for $500 to $700 now the 2080 Ti is $1,000 or $1,200 on the Nvidia Store if you can find one.
The RTX Titan has gone up to $2500. That is more than double the price of the Titan XP.

I'm hoping Intel brings a strong GPU lineup next year.
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#41
Unregistered
Ya, not surprising at all. Good to see consumers aren't biting on the RTX bs. No doubt it'll be good stuff one day, but the pricing NVidia wants for these things is out of this world ridiculous. I wouldn't buy a 2080 Ti for more than $750. And that's only if it was brand new. I was looking to buy (2) of them until the product launched and I saw how disappointing the performance gains were versus the asking price.
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#42
Vayra86
RobcostyleJust an assumption - but I'm 100% sure they're not selling it with "only" 10% margin.
for example - iphone x had 300% margin, there was alot discussion on that matter - and iphone is a ready-to-go device, with screen, electronics, battery, packaging, etc.
Here we have only chip itself, vram and electric circuit parts. Chips can't be that much more expensive than those iphone has - despite being much more powerfull. That is unit failure percentage, engineering makes a major part of chip's cost, not the complexity at fabrication - and apple also has all those, however much less complicated.
Vram - yeah, that depends on even more greedy samsung and micron.
Circuit parts - beleive me, the ones they use in FE - it's far away from top notch - it is just good, and does the job well, but it doesn't mean vrm is "golden".

All that said, iphone x and 2080 ti have the same price on the market. And everyone says apple got nuts these days - so what about ngreedia?
So next time you have baseless assumptions, find something to support your idea instead of a hunch. Your point will land a lot better. It also helps not to overexaggerate. So, sorry if I won't 'believe you' about part quality. You don't know jack all.
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#43
XXL_AI
it doesn't matter. they are still the best brand on the planet.
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#44
notb
FordGT90ConceptNvidia full-year sales outlook tops analyst views; shares rise

They're really taking NVIDIA's word for it? I see nothing in this report that warrants NVIDIA shares going up 8% as it did. Me thinks NVIDIA could get in trouble for being too optimistic.
Nvidia forecasts better results than what analysts expected. Shares went up. That's how stocks work.

Time after time I see you really confused in stock market discussion. Are you sure you know how this thing works?
There's no shame here. For example I don't know how kidneys work (beside what I was told at school). One can't know everything.

A lot of people believe that share price works like a "mood barometer". Nvidia is OK (good results, good products) => price goes up. Nvidia is not OK (bad results, old / slow products) => price goes down.
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#45
Kaotik
londisteTuring has feature parity with Vega plus some additional things here and there. If you look at game benchmarks where Vega used to get a lead over Pascal, it never really gets that over Turing.
Actually they don't, not that it would be really relevant but NVIDIA still doesn't support stencil value from ps (and their per-resource and per-process virtual address space is 4bits smaller (40 vs 44bit))

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What I'm more curious about is the possibility of nvidia downplaying cryptomarkets in their official reports, since every other number except NVIDIAs matches the analysts calculations
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#46
notb
FordGT90ConceptYup, doesn't make any sense. Musk's twitter comment about buying the company out got him in hot water, as it rightfully should.
The sense here is that Tesla wants to be a major car maker when electric vehicles take over our roads. And, surely, they have the know-how and the patents to support this claim.
The manufacturing technology they have today is already good enough to make them profitable. The issue is volume (scale). They aren't selling enough cars to cover huge investments.
If EV sales were few times larger, they would already make huge profits and have a stable business.

The price of a stock is an estimate of what happens in the future. It's an average of returns in many possible outcomes (like in a Monte Carlo simulation).
Some paths lead to a future where we have many EVs. Some paths don't. In some paths Tesla becomes successful. In some they default because of cashflow problems. In some paths EVs are expensive and sporty (like current Tesla models), in other they are slower and more practical (like a Nissan Leaf).
For each of these paths you can estimate Tesla's value. The average of all these outcomes leads to the share price you see.
But the discussion about the precise share value is really complicated. Let's forget about it for a moment.

So now back to your issue: why is Tesla price going up all the time? The answer is in the previous paragraph - have you noticed? :)
At some moment in the future (let's call it T) EVs will become so popular that Tesla's situation will be considered safe. They'll sell a lot of cars and make a lot of money.
With each passing day we're getting closer to that moment.
This means that probability of "Tesla defaults before T" decreases and probability of "Tesla survives to T and may become successful" increases.
So just because of the passing time the share price goes up. It's just pure math. We don't have to know anything about cars to understand this.
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#48
Robcostyle
Vayra86So next time you have baseless assumptions, find something to support your idea instead of a hunch. Your point will land a lot better. It also helps not to overexaggerate. So, sorry if I won't 'believe you' about part quality. You don't know jack all.
Baseless?
I still wonder what makes you people protect turing...Or what, you've bought one, so now "changing" sides?
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#49
Xzibit
XaledYeah this is a clear proof that they lied in previous results. if i dont remember wrong once theyve reported 100 millions of mining and 1 billion onf gaming!
I guess they are making up for it now.
NvidiaGaming = Down 46%
Professional Visualization = Down 4%
Datacenter = Down 14%
Automotive = Down 5%
OEM and IP = Down 22%
Their outlook is FLAT to Down slightly

Their inventory is getting harder to sell as well up from 102 last Q (which was shy of double their normal) to 143 days. Last quarter Huang said inventory would clear out in 1 quarter and now its becoming increasingly difficult.
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#50
64K
As far as the new RTX GPUs I don't know why they are char
XzibitI guess they are making up for it now.



Their outlook is FLAT to Down slightly

Their inventory is getting harder to sell as well up from 102 last Q to 143 days . Last quarter Huang said inventory would clear out in 1 quarter and now its becoming increasingly difficult.
I don't understand why retailers are marking the prices up so much. The non reference cards were supposed to be cheaper than the Founders Editions but they actually cost more. They shouldn't be marking them up so high . That's not how supply and demand works.
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