Tuesday, April 16th 2019
AMD Zen3 to Leverage 7nm+ EUV For 20% Transistor Density Increase
AMD "Zen 3" microarchitecture could be designed for the enhanced 7 nm+ EUV (extreme ultraviolet) silicon fabrication node at TSMC, which promises a significant 20 percent increase in transistor densities compared to the 7 nm DUV (deep ultraviolet) node on which its "Zen 2" processors are being built. In addition, the node will also reduce power consumption by up to 10 percent at the same operational load. In a late-2018 interview, CTO Mark Papermaster stated AMD's design goal with "Zen 3" would be to prioritize energy-efficiency, and that it would present "modest" performance improvements (read: IPC improvements) over "Zen 2." AMD made it clear that it won't drag 7 nm DUV over more than one microarchitecture (Zen 2), and that "Zen 3" will debut in 2020 on 7 nm+ EUV.
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90 Comments on AMD Zen3 to Leverage 7nm+ EUV For 20% Transistor Density Increase
Calm your tits, kid. Trololol.
My 9900K was free, I don't have to justify anything :laugh:
Cause 7nm was pretty much a given for Zen3 anyway.
www.guru3d.com/news_story/ryzen_zen_2_procs_incompatible_with_older_300_series_due_to_bios_limitation.html
"AMD is aware of this and is going to release an "AMD Ryzen Desktop 3000 ready" badge just to address this."
aka Official :kookoo:
Then again, if a new chipset was actually not needed, AMD wouldn't have designed a new one to go with the new CPUs.
I remember how many issues this resulted in, back in the days with AM3. And lack of features.
Get a life.
"Forbes has posted a response sent by motherboard manufacturer MSI towards a Reddit user, "
I want a i9-9900k for free....
So sad. Luckily I know liars when I see them.
Ah well, just goes to show once again that waiting for anything from AMD is never a good idea :rolleyes:
Basically, what AMD is trying to tell us is that the xxxx CPU's and the xxxxG/U APU's are not in the same series, they just happen to begin with the same number.
Please don't feed the troll ppl
They can keep polishing 14nm and focus on their 7nm - to compete with Zen 3 based on TSMC 7nm EUV (N6?) coming next year at best. But most marketing materials and AGESA leaks mention Ryzen 3000-series, not Zen 2 or 7nm.
People interpret this as Zen 2, but there's no actual guarantee. X370 motherboards (after update) may as well be compatible just with Ryzen 3000-series based on Zen+ (be it APU or not). Correct. Which means Zen 2 is sure to be expensive*, while it's unknown at this point how much performance/efficiency gain we could get**.
It does seem like Zen 2 will be very short-lived. Basically, they're launching this only because Intel caught up on core count.
And if Zen 2 turns out to be the last generation for AM4, then the "great upgrade path" will suddenly look a lot less great.
*) so why make <=8C Zen2 at all? Why not refresh Zen+ for this segment and save Zen2 for 12-core and up? These refreshed Zen+ 3000-series would surely work on X370...
**) Radeon VII ;-(
Just stop trying to find flaws with everything AMD does and justify everything devlish Intel and it's beaouches (MSI, Asus etc) been doing
And yeah, if Zen2 in this form (with perhaps 8 cores max too boot) will be the last thing that will work on 400 series chipsets (or even 300 for that matter), then that will only be marginally better than on Intel's platforms and nowhere close to what has been so pompously advertised. :rolleyes:
Right from the beginning we were told that AM4 will last for few years and will also work with a future revamped architecture on improved semiconductor process (i.e. more cores, higher clocks etc)
It was meant to be a big jump in performance.
Until now we got 2 generations: Zen and Zen+, the latter being just slightly faster and a bit more polished. That's hardly different from what Intel is doing.
Zen 2 is rumored to be problematic. Zen 3 seems very unlikely.
So in a fairly probable scenario AM4 will be compatible with... 2.5 generations... Intel, MSI, Asus etc...
Keep going and soon you'll be butthurt about so many companies that you'll have problems assembling a whole PC...