damn, this guys (ati and nvidia) are stll fighting over agp at this rate, where going to have dx10 agp cards

will be a good way to get rid of the gpu's:cool:

Wow! Now that's really interesting. I'd love to see some benchmarks comparing a similar CPU, PCIe vs. AGP and see JUST HOW MUCH FASTER the PCIe is, or not! And if not, then I'll be laughing my head off at all those peeps who keep bashing AGP. (And shed a little tear for all the money they spent upgrading). LOL :roll:

Where and When can i buy one seriously

It's just been released. Expect 4 weeks until its in the retail channels. Be patient... it's coming...

So I guess this will trump the x1950pro and become the best agp card?

I can't wait for the ISA version of the x1950 to come out so I can upgrade my 286.

Omg

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Completely BonkersWow! Now that's really interesting. I'd love to see some benchmarks comparing a similar CPU, PCIe vs. AGP and see JUST HOW MUCH FASTER the PCIe is, or not! And if not, then I'll be laughing my head off at all those peeps who keep bashing AGP. (And shed a little tear for all the money they spent upgrading). LOL :roll:

There is minimal difference in performance.



The 8800GTX and or X2900XTX could possibly saturate the bus with the newer DX10 interface and a fast enough CPU. But we will see. The X1900XT and 7800GTX made little difference dropping down to 3X HT, thus limiting the PCI-E bus.


The more local memory and better caching will drop the amount of bandwidth useage, but possibly offloading physics to another card however.......

Lazzer408I can't wait for the ISA version of the x1950 to come out so I can upgrade my 286.

:laugh:


Just make sure to get the jumpers on the "uber card" position.

X1950XT for AGP??? Holy shit!

Truly this will be the most powerfull AGP graphics card ever created.

Steevo:laugh:


Just make sure to get the jumpers on the "uber card" position.

Right? I forgot about the jumpers. lol What IRQ should I be using? I don't want it to conflict with my 8bit soundcard! :laugh:

Oh dear... 2 steps forward 3 back. Anything to make a dollar right? I wonder if any system running agp can keep up with the x1950xtx anyways.

Malware, this is an x1950XT, not an x1950XTX, might want to correct that in the headline. The extra X in the name following the x1950XT is actually GeCubes naming for their X-Series cards with the TEC cooling on them.

This is pretty awesome. I just hope its not outrageously priced, which face it, all video cards really are overpriced.

Completely BonkersWow! Now that's really interesting. I'd love to see some benchmarks comparing a similar CPU, PCIe vs. AGP and see JUST HOW MUCH FASTER the PCIe is, or not! And if not, then I'll be laughing my head off at all those peeps who keep bashing AGP. (And shed a little tear for all the money they spent upgrading). LOL :roll:

1-3% difference maybe. Anandtech has some benchmarks on that.
And I _AM_ an AGP basher myself although I have AGP.

And I'll laugh at YOU when you're trying to find good AGP boards for C2D.

Lazzer408I wonder if any system running agp can keep up with the x1950xtx anyways.

there are mobos with i865 or VIA chipsets that can run C2d with AGP. If I was mental enough to pay the money for it, I could install a P4 671 3.8Ghz on my PC (see spec box) and it would work just dandy with a X1950XT.

newtekie1Malware, this is an x1950XT, not an x1950XTX, might want to correct that in the headline. The extra X in the name following the x1950XT is actually GeCubes naming for their X-Series cards with the TEC cooling on them.

the made the x's so close enough that ppl with think the card is a xtx-series....advertisement trick.

:laugh: :roll: :slap: :toast: :rockout: :banghead: :pimp: :cry: :twitch: :p :confused: :D :shadedshu :wtf: :eek: :rolleyes: :cool: ;) :)


also there is a chance for dx10 graphic cards on AGP interface. And the chance of one or two are pretty good.

ktrthe made the x's so close enough that ppl with think the card is a xtx-series....advertisement trick.

:laugh: :roll: :slap: :toast: :rockout: :banghead: :pimp: :cry: :twitch: :p :confused: :D :shadedshu :wtf: :eek: :rolleyes: :cool: ;) :)


also there is a chance for dx10 graphic cards on AGP interface. And the chance of one or two are pretty good.

Satisfied thermal control device : 1950XTX level in core clock (648MHz X1950XTX original core clock) at only about 70°C or more while operating 3D in room temperature environment for reliability.

kakazza1-3% difference maybe. Anandtech has some benchmarks on that.
And I _AM_ an AGP basher myself although I have AGP.

And I'll laugh at YOU when you're trying to find good AGP boards for C2D.

AsRock Dual-Vsta

DX10 AGP :rockout:

kakazza1-3% difference maybe. Anandtech has some benchmarks on that.
And I _AM_ an AGP basher myself although I have AGP.

And I'll laugh at YOU when you're trying to find good AGP boards for C2D.

You're right! I won't be looking for a C2D, but a Quad Core Kentsfield, which will run on any of the following mainboards:

4CoreDual-VSTA
775i65G
ConRoe865PE

And in the process, I'll have saved $200 on memory and $200 on a GPU.

It's also a GREAT UPGRADE for all the AMD users out there on AGP platforms.

:nutkick:

ptdamn, this guys (ati and nvidia) are stll fighting over agp at this rate, where going to have dx10 agp cards

that's actually quite a good thing you know...
considering the fact that a sizeable chunck of the graphics card market is still AGP based.

Anyone wanna bring up the fact that is is gonna be expensive!!!

Damnit what is going on, First they say no more cards on AGP, then X1950Pro, now this.

we might indeed see a Dx10 AGP card.

kakazza1-3% difference maybe. Anandtech has some benchmarks on that.
And I _AM_ an AGP basher myself although I have AGP.

And I'll laugh at YOU when you're trying to find good AGP boards for C2D.

If it's such a small difference why move on to PCI-E at all (apart from the companies making more money)?