windwhirlIf I didn't know any better, I would think that AMD processors are vulnerable to almost everything, because the slide simply says "N/A" for many vulnerabilities.

Anyhow, nice to know that those two are now hardware-mitigated.

btarunrN/A (not applicable), means immune.

windwhirlAh. I normally translate it to "Not Available". My bad.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14525/amd-zen-2-microarchitecture-analysis-ryzen-3000-and-epyc-rome/3AMD doesn’t expect any performance change from these updates.

lexluthermiesterAnd it generally does have that meaning, just not in the context of the above graph.

PaddieMayneNo it doesn't....NA always in the English Language means Not Applicable.

lexluthermiesterIncorrect. Being a native english speaker, which includes 6 dialects, I can state with complete confidence the term "N/A" and "NA" have several common meanings, one of which is "Not Available". But I digress..

PaddieMayneBeing a native speaker of 47 years, living in the country where the language originated and having been taught the Queens English as it should be taught, i can quite categorically tell you that the abbreviation in the Queens English language stands for Not Applicable. But i of course understand that my rebellious tax fearing cousins from across the pond have taken the beautiful language that is English and bastardized it for their own use, which i blame mainly on American Media and Commercial Enterprises. :)

But I digress ;)

Ferrum MasterPutting under one blanket all "tax fearing cousins from across the pond" is rather infantile for a 47+ years old. There is a majority of people who can teach thing or two two anyone, no matter he is a native speaker or not, wherever he may live.

It is not only the US media. Is the cultural globalization tendencies overall, it doesn't happen only with English. It is our human nature to be lazy at everything.

It is totally fine that we ask for uncertain things here and we are not afraid to do it so, and someone helps and sincerely explains.

ThefumigatorBack to the topic, I can't seems to figure out why a giant like intel has these vulnerabilities in their CPUs, and AMD doesn't....

londisteThese hardware changes are not fixes as such but features to assist in mitigation. With regards to performance, guys at Anandtech usually verify their claims and:

ThefumigatorI can't seems to figure out why a giant like intel has these vulnerabilities in their CPUs, and AMD doesn't....

juisemanen.wikipedia.org/wiki/N/a

N/A	Naturally Aspirated (non-turbocharged/non-supercharged engine)

GoldenXMy favourite.
Why does AMD need less time to mitigate Spectre V4?

juisemanNaturally Aspirated (non-turbocharged/non-supercharged engine)

AthloniteWell that's just wrong on so many ways it's not funny

lexluthermiesterIt's as simple as the way they designed the architecture. None of it was intentional as many of these type of vulnerabilities affect most of the CPU's made since the 1990's. These latest ones are Intel specific, but that doesn't mean that more for other CPU's won't be found.

AthloniteThe real definition of Naturally Aspirated means to be non electronically fuel injected ie: Carburettored like almost all pre 1970's cars

MakaveliI also think this shows how important it is that more than one company is making x86 cpu's.

You get a variety in designs, and a choice as a consumer when they find vulnerabilities like this.

Competition is necessary in this market.