Wednesday, June 19th 2019

AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary Edition Not a Worldwide Release, Available only in US and China

Apparently, AMD isn't celebrating its 50th anniversary in all parts of the globe, judging from recent reports regarding its AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary Edition. Apparently, the exclusive, limited-edition graphics card will only be available for US and China customers - two of the biggest worldwide markets, for sure. This is a strange decision from AMD, since a sold unit is a sold unit; however, this may be a sign of really limited availability of the graphics card and the hardware powering it.
Manufactured in TSMC's 7 nm fabrication plants, the RX 5700 XT is infused with AMD's next-gen RDNA architecture, which makes this a hot product, even if its performance and pricing aren't what everybody had (sometimes unrealistically) hoped for. That this limited edition graphics card is only available in these two select countries may speak to the amount of inventory AMD will have available to move on the RX 5700 bandwagon. Even though AMD would love to sell as many of these limited edition graphics cards as possible, especially considering their $50 premium over the reference RX 5700 XT ($499 vs $449), that the company is artificially limiting availability speaks to an even more limited edition of the hardware than previously expected. This, in turn, may speak to a need to tighten up the belt on AMD's own distribution capacities lest AIB partners end up with unsatisfying amounts of hardware. This is just speculation, so take it for what it is; whatever the reason AMD did have to limit this release, I can see some grumbling customers on the horizon already.
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54 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary Edition Not a Worldwide Release, Available only in US and China

#26
R-T-B
Dyatlov AIf Trump would have sign it, I would definiately want one.
*Whitehouse giftshop wants to know your location*
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#27
Fluffmeister
B-RealYes, that's why RX470, 480, 570 and 580 were all better choices than the 1060. Mid range is the most common class for gamers. Vega 56 with the current prices is also a great choice. And it's funny to read this after NV's current gen, only the GTX 1660 and 1660Ti have reasonable price-performance ratio, while the 2070, 2080 and the 2080Ti are ridiculously priced.
Hmm this thing is going to be $500, and based on their slides comparing the 5700XT to a Vega 56, it will perform right around the RTX 2070, which is available in numerous custom flavours aready for that money or a bit less.

RTX 2080 can be had for the same money as a Radeon VII and the RTX 2080 Ti... well has no competiton, hence the silly money halo thang.
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#28
Valantar
CasecutterWell, first AMD must decide what their allotment 7nm wafer starts go toward Ryzen 3000 production and how much should go to Navi. From that they need to test and bin those that make the silicone lottery to provide the 1830 Gaming clock. While then you'd have to guess/judge how many intend to pay a premium. I'm sure they'll do one production run for this (silicon and gold trim) and call it done. The remaining chips will get to go to AIB's willing to ante up for the remaining binned parts for their special/OC'd builds. I'd put number of say 2500-5000 and call it done.
You seem to misunderstand me. The news post implies speculates in limited general availability of Navi dice, not just of specially-binned, limited-edition-grade ones. That's my issue here, not whether this edition is truly limited - of course it is. It's right there in the name, after all. I doubt AMD has any issues getting enough 7nm capacity from TSMC given how promising their products look these days, Nvidia moving to Samsung, and Apple moving to 7nm+. Are there any big IC makers beyond Qualcomm left to take up fab capacity then? QC is by no means small, but there ought to be enough capacity for AMD to get what they want/need. And yes, of course there are 2-3 month lead times between ordering more wafer starts and having finished chips ready, but that's not really relevant in relation to the weird unfounded speculation in the OP.
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#29
RH92
Oh well the rest of the world can do a paint job on a regular 5700XT and call it a day :laugh:
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#30
xkm1948
Mamya3084It's every AMD gfx release. I bought a Radeon Vega FE, so I know what it's like to be burned once by AMD.
Don't get me wrong, still works great, probably last another 2 - 3 years. Just bought a second one for $300, but the original one, I think I paid over $800 in the Vega hype train.
$800 Vega? Ouch!
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#31
64K
I don't know how reliable this site OC3D.net is but they claim AMD sent them this statement:

"Friendly reminder that just because someone writes it doesn't mean it is true....

We will be expanding AMD.com sales to more countries, so we expect the 50th anniversary edition will also be available in: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, and the United Kingdom.

Sorry we are not offering global availability at this point. We hear you on the desire. The team is focused on expanding into more regions/countries while making sure we can fully support customers.
"

www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/amd_confirms_that_the_radeon_5700_xt_50th_anniversary_edition_will_have_european_availability/1
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#32
RH92
64KI don't know how reliable this site OC3D.net is but they claim AMD sent them this statement:

"Friendly reminder that just because someone writes it doesn't mean it is true....

We will be expanding AMD.com sales to more countries, so we expect the 50th anniversary edition will also be available in: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, and the United Kingdom.

Sorry we are not offering global availability at this point. We hear you on the desire. The team is focused on expanding into more regions/countries while making sure we can fully support customers.
"

www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/amd_confirms_that_the_radeon_5700_xt_50th_anniversary_edition_will_have_european_availability/1
OC3D is reliable .
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#33
mechtech
Hmmm old ATI HQ is still in Markham Ontario Canada which AMD still runs. It would seem odd if this isn't available in Canada.
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#35
Mamya3084
xkm1948$800 Vega? Ouch!
Yerp, I willingly bought into rajar's crap, got the Kickstarter edition to be on the bleeding edge.

At least it was a good mining card at the time.
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#36
INSTG8R
Vanguard Beta Tester
Mamya3084Yerp, I willingly bought into rajar's crap, got the Kickstarter edition to be on the bleeding edge.

At least it was a good mining card at the time.
Don’t feel bad I paid $1000 US and that was after some price drops..Norway is expensive...
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#37
turbogear
Mamya3084Yerp, I willingly bought into rajar's crap, got the Kickstarter edition to be on the bleeding edge.

At least it was a good mining card at the time.
I also paid in total 795€ for Vega 64 but this inluded EK water block.
But with water cooler it was nice card. For 2K monitor gaming, it did not disappoint me.
I could extract extra performance from it and while running at max 42°C. :)
I sold Vega two months ago on eBay and earned back 370€.

I went to Radeon VII which I water cool also.
Here also water cooler is needed to make it run better. :shadedshu:
www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/the-vega-vii-owners-club.252617/post-4025578

Coolers have been really disappointing from AMD on recent generations of cards. On Vega 64 and Radeon VII they sounded like vacum cleaner while still not cooling card good enogh. :roll:

Let's see how good the vapor chamber cooler on 5700XT would be.
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#38
Mamya3084
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turbogearI also paid in total 795€ for Vega 64 but this inluded EK water block.
But with water cooler it was nice card. For 2K monitor gaming, it did not disappoint me.
I could extract extra performance from it and while running at max 42°C. :)
I sold Vega two months ago on eBay and earned back 370€.

I went to Radeon VII which I water cool also.
Here also water cooler is needed to make it run better. :shadedshu:
When I bought the card, ek hadn't released the block yet. I have one now.
The Vega is literally the only reason I have a water cooled pc.
I grabbed a Vega 56 for my HTPC and just bought a block at the same time.

EK and AMD, working together to put there hand in our pockets...an expensive happy ending?
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#39
lexluthermiester
R-T-B*Whitehouse giftshop wants to know your location*
Thank You for that! Needed a good laugh. :rockout:
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#40
Kapone33
Chloe PriceWeird, for me the major disappointments from AMD have been HD 2900, RX 480, RX 580 & RX 590
How could the 580 be a disappointment? You must have had a Tahiti card before.
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#41
lexluthermiester
kapone32How could the 580 be a disappointment? You must have had a Tahiti card before.
Agreed. The RX580 was a damn decent GPU, especially the 8GB versions.
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#42
R-T-B
lexluthermiesterAgreed. The RX580 was a damn decent GPU, especially the 8GB versions.
It was, agreed. However as a "flagship" card it left users wanting. But it was very sold middle segment.
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#43
Kapone33
R-T-BIt was, agreed. However as a "flagship" card it left users wanting. But it was very sold middle segment.
it was never meant to be a flagship. It was a replacement for the Tahiti based GPUs from the 7970 to R9290 (3 GB) and meant to be a price/performance card. It delivered vs them by giving you the same or better performance at a much lower power draw. I t also blew it's direct competitor from Nvidia (1060) out of the water. The Fury was the flagship at the time until we got Vega. Even today if I was looking for a mid range GPU I would buy the 580 before anything else (well maybe Used Vega 56 are pretty attractively priced right now).
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#44
lexluthermiester
R-T-BIt was, agreed. However as a "flagship" card it left users wanting. But it was very sold middle segment.
Fully aware I'm going to sound like a broken record, but that depends greatly on how you run your games. Disabling AA improves performance greatly, turning what would otherwise be a midrange card into an excellent performer and much greater value.
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#45
R-T-B
kapone32it was never meant to be a flagship. It was a replacement for the Tahiti based GPUs from the 7970 to R9290 (3 GB) and meant to be a price/performance card. It delivered vs them by giving you the same or better performance at a much lower power draw. I t also blew it's direct competitor from Nvidia (1060) out of the water. The Fury was the flagship at the time until we got Vega. Even today if I was looking for a mid range GPU I would buy the 580 before anything else (well maybe Used Vega 56 are pretty attractively priced right now).
I never said otherwise. But my point was more people were already hoping for a new flagship by it's release, which of course, it wasn't really.
lexluthermiesterFully aware I'm going to sound like a broken record, but that depends greatly on how you run your games. Disabling AA improves performance greatly, turning what would otherwise be a midrange card an excellent performer and much greater value.
True as well.
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#46
Casecutter
ValantarYou seem to misunderstand me. The news post implies speculates in limited general availability of Navi dice, not just of specially-binned, limited-edition-grade ones... I doubt AMD has any issues getting enough 7nm capacity from TSMC given how promising their products look these days.
Let's keep this article as "rumor and the authors speculation" not news. Now sure you/I don't have any specifics as actual TSMC 7nm wafer production and if equipment used includes 7nm+ production. But I would still think that TSMC equipment is allocated 100%, and nobody is sayings sure take my place, or actually having any openings for more wafers I'd think is a pipe-dream. Sure up to few days before the litho-process AMD/RTG can juggle what goes on a wafer, but I'm sure for the last several months it's been 85% Ryzen 3000, and the scrap's going to GPU's. Probably just in the 2 mo's have they finally built stock in the channel of CPU dies (their #1 concern) and really moved to to Navi.

I'm not so diluted not to believe Navi "stocks" won't be sucked-up, like moisture in summer at Death Valley. I'd say it will look bad in just 2-3 days and that will maintain through July. Heck I'll say all you'll see or be able to get are sticker-ed XT reference units, but if willing and ready you can get one if diligent. I can't see most AIB's having their XT versions until perhaps first of August. I honestly don't know when non-XT will see shelves and in what iterations, I heard that non-XT was AIB only, no reference designs. Best is that they (RTG) have AIB start sales of their XT versions, while AIB's where provided non-XT chips earlier to build stock and those will be more available at first weeks of August.
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#47
quadibloc
As I'm not planning to buy an expensive video card, I'm not too upset personally, but as I live in Canada, it's still a disturbing precedent. Actually, though, I find the rumor hard to believe in one respect. If it was the U.S. and Japan, or the U.S. and Taiwan, it would make sense. But China, at least in the sense of mainland China? That's not really a market where people have much money.
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#48
lexluthermiester
quadiblocThat's not really a market where people have much money.
You're kidding with that right? China isn't as poor as everyone thinks. There are a ton of rich people there now.
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#49
cadaveca
My name is Dave
lexluthermiesterDisabling AA improves performance greatly, turning what would otherwise be a midrange card into an excellent performer and much greater value.
The problem lies with having to do that since 2005.
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#50
Berfs1
Look at the first pic carefully... RX 690 :)
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