Tuesday, July 9th 2019

MSI Scampers to Launch New AMD 400-series Motherboards with 256Mb BIOS Chips

Our Monday story chronicled how MSI inadvertently erred in giving many of its AMD 400-series chipset motherboards 128 Mbit (16-megabyte) SPI flash ROM chips instead of larger 256 Mbit (32-megabyte) ones, which nearly jeopardized the company's "Zen 2" support deployment, forcing it to greatly thin its motherboard firmware feature-set, and break SATA RAID support on many of its boards. To be fair to MSI, the company may not have anticipated the AGESA microcode growing tremendously in size with its latest ComboAM4 1.0.0.3-series. We are now hearing from Polish tech publication PurePC that MSI has scrambled to remedy this by re-releasing many of its AMD 400-series chipset motherboards with larger 256 Mbit SPI flash ROM chips.

The PurePC report states that MSI will brand the revised motherboards "MAX" in the product name (eg: B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC MAX, B450M Bazooka MAX, etc.), although we don't know if the new model names will have the company's latest MEG/MPG/MAG prefixes. The 256 Mbit SPI flash ROM chip allows MSI to cram in AGESA 1.0.0.3a, which lets you use 3rd generation Ryzen processors to their full capabilities (barring PCIe gen 4.0 on these motherboards of course). More importantly, the larger ROM chip allows MSI to have AGESA 1.0.0.3a without sacrificing on its feature-rich Click BIOS 5 UEFI setup program, SATA RAID module, or losing support for any of the socket AM4 processors.
MSI is said to be working on variants of not just its B450 and X470 chipset motherboards, but also the entry-level A320 chipset. The company gambles that people may still try to pair "Picasso" APUs with the A320. Why AMD 400-series boards now, you ask? Because X570 motherboards start at $170, and enthusiasts may want to pair their brand new 3rd generation Ryzen processors with an AMD 400-series chipset motherboard, taking advantage of USB BIOS Flashback feature, instead. It won't be until early-2020 that AMD launches cheaper 500-series chipsets. Until then, sales of 400-series chipset motherboards are expected to rise, as more consumers pick up 3rd generation Ryzen processors.
Source: PurePC.pl
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34 Comments on MSI Scampers to Launch New AMD 400-series Motherboards with 256Mb BIOS Chips

#26
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Vayra86It amazes me that this gets public in the first place, to be honest. This is one obvious kink AMD should have smoothed out with AIBs long ago. Its not like this is some minor, obscure feature.
Why are you amazed? This is just how capitalism works: CEO approves a plan to save a few cents per board by using a 128Mbit chip instead of a 256Mbit one, the money saved on producing hundreds of thousands of boards can then go to towards the CEO's bonus. On the occasions like this one where the penny-pinching goes south, any good CEO will ensure that someone far junior to them takes the fall.
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#27
newtekie1
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btarunrthe larger ROM chip allows MSI to have AGESA 1.0.0.3a without sacrificing on its feature-rich Click BIOS 5 UEFI setup program, SATA RAID module, or losing support for any of the socket AM4 processors.
IMO, breaking RAID support is terrible, it's putting users data at risk just so they can keep a flashy looking BIOS. Ditch the flashy BIOS and go back to the generic blue and grey look and leave RAID support.
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#28
tony359
Newtekie
MSI note says RAID is not ready ‘yet’ so we’re all hopeful. Flashy bios has gone already.
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#29
lexluthermiester
newtekie1Ditch the flashy BIOS and go back to the generic blue and grey look and leave RAID support.
Yes, yes!
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#30
Vayra86
AssimilatorWhy are you amazed? This is just how capitalism works: CEO approves a plan to save a few cents per board by using a 128Mbit chip instead of a 256Mbit one, the money saved on producing hundreds of thousands of boards can then go to towards the CEO's bonus. On the occasions like this one where the penny-pinching goes south, any good CEO will ensure that someone far junior to them takes the fall.
Well you have a different impression of how capitalism works than I do, then... Never have I seen this level of clumsiness in real / corporate businesses and if it did happen, it was widely recognized as a mistake not ever to repeat again. These things cost money and its strikingly obvious to anyone with half a brain. Public opinion is alpha and omega when you produce consumer products.

Enter AMD... a company that struggles on all the non-core business aspects, really. Marketing, timing, PR... ,distribution control, none of it is great.
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#31
tony359
Vayra86Enter AMD... a company that struggles on all the non-core business aspects, really. Marketing, timing, PR... ,distribution control, none of it is great.
I may agree with you. However to keep things into context, let’s not forget that Intel wouldn’t have had this problem as they would have changed the socket twice since First Gen Ryzen!

So yes, this looks like a big mistake. But let’s appreciate the efforts!
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#32
PerfectWave
Guys X470 gaming pro carbon AC has 256 mb of bios?
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#33
silentbogo
PerfectWaveGuys X470 gaming pro carbon AC has 256 mb of bios?
Nope. 128Mbit.
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#34
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PerfectWaveGuys X470 gaming pro carbon AC has 256 mb of bios?
Try reading the first post.
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