Monday, September 23rd 2019
Radeon RX 5300 XT and AMD B550 Chipset Coming to OEM Systems in October
HP has listed new desktop consumer prebuilts that use previously unannounced hardware from AMD, namely the Radeon RX 5300 XT graphics card and the B550 chipset. B550 has been expected for a while — it's a lower-cost chipset for Ryzen 3000 "Zen 2" processors with reduced feature set. HP calls the chipset "AMD Promontory B550A" in their sheets which seems to be designed and produced by ASMedia (unlike X570, which is a fully AMD in-house design). One of the major differences between X570 and B550 is that the latter has no support for PCI-Express 4.0, which won't matter one bit in its target segment. This move not only reduces chipset cost, it also drives down the cost of motherboards significantly, as the more stringent signal integrity requirements for PCIe 4.0 won't apply here.
While we have heard rumors that AMD is working on a smaller chip for their "Navi" architecture (Navi 12 and Navi 14), it's uncertain whether RX 5300 XT is really based on Navi, or whether it will be yet another rebrand — we wouldn't be surprised if Polaris is making a comeback yet again. Both systems are listed for € 699 and € 899, with shelf availability expected for October 8th.
Source:
Computerbase
While we have heard rumors that AMD is working on a smaller chip for their "Navi" architecture (Navi 12 and Navi 14), it's uncertain whether RX 5300 XT is really based on Navi, or whether it will be yet another rebrand — we wouldn't be surprised if Polaris is making a comeback yet again. Both systems are listed for € 699 and € 899, with shelf availability expected for October 8th.
15 Comments on Radeon RX 5300 XT and AMD B550 Chipset Coming to OEM Systems in October
Either way, I don't expect a low end product not to be a rebrand.
The date is interesting... because of reasons that can't be disclosed.
The sad part: it's really hard to imagine a target audience for these PCs. It looks like a forced launch (maybe an agreement with AMD).What features do you expect?
X570 adds 2 major things over X470: PCIe 4.0 and USB 3.2.
B550 is PCIe 3.0 and both PCs shown don't offer USB 3.2.
This is very likely an RX560 replacement. RX560 is an acceptable entry-level gaming chip and fits in PCIe's 75W power budget.
There's really no reason to go Navi in this segment.
7 nm allowed AMD to create chips that finally are as power efficient as Nvidia. If they put out a low end chip that performs notably worse at the same TDP now, and in the 5xxx line, it's going to cheapen the new line and probably do nothing for the desirability of the rebranded chip.
I am so sick of AMD rebrands. They finally have good tech and process and people like you just want more and more rebrands to "save money." AMD should just stick to 600 series for their rebrand crap and leave the new product line for the new technology.
When AMD gets this level of comfort with 7nm availability, they'll make even the crappiest GPUs and CPUs on this node. And Zen I/O dies. And maybe even chipsets.
But before that happens, there's really no point.
EVEN IF 5300 was a 75W Navi, how much better could it be? 30% faster? That's still way behind RX570. It would still be a basic 1080p gaming card - just with higher quality settings.
Nvidia regularly updates their *50 designs, because that's one of their most important products. They sell millions of these chips for both desktops and mobile.There's likely a reason why this chip is called 5300.
If AMD plans 3 GPUs between this and the 5700 (they would replace RX570, RX580 and Vega 56), they'll have no problem with utilizing sub-par Navi dies.
Thsi is typical for low end, they dont get the new features/tech, they never have. Once you get to this level, the buyers are just looking for a cheap way to get a dedicated card, either for multi monitor or because they dont know how to research GPUs.
Scavanged xt 5700 GPUs are sold as 5700s. Anything below that is likely not going to scale that low, and would be a waste of silicon. Take fermi: The 580 was scavenged as a 570 or 560ti 448 edition, but the 560ti was its own GPU, and the 560 and 560se were scavanges. The 550ti was its own GPU.
So far there isn't a single board offering real 3.2 (20 Gb/s) that I know of.
I hate this naming mess
I could imagine that B550 is similar to B450 but with more lanes and upgraded to PCIe 3.0.
Rolling out Navi Architecture is important to AMD, so I have some faith that they're not just rebrands. 14nm is cheap and available.
Still, I'd be surprised if a bottom-end 5300 OEM card were anything other than a rebrand.