cucker tarlsonwere I to choose between x570 and 3700x or x299 and 9800x at the same price I'd choose intel probably,better memory compability and quad channel.

cucker tarlsonlease,take a look at threads on memory compability issues around tpu, they're almost exclusively amd,including 3000.
If you think I'm making it up you can just check ya know?

fynxerHalf of Intel's originally astronomical price isn't good enuf. Will people even bother with x299 when AMD still givers more performance per dollar than Intel's halved prices.

Before even considering Intel's halved prices be sure to check out AMD performance per dollar and you also get PCIe 4.0

Sure PCIe 4.0 may not be a must tech today but you have to think a couple of years down the line when building a new system.

ALSO by NOT buying Intel you are sending a clear message to Intel that even half price of their originally astronomical prices is too expensive and they have to match or even go below AMD's performance per dollar to be relevant in the future.

EarthDog3 series memory compatibility is a lot better than 1st/1st+ generations. That said, compared to intel, it has issues. Intel you can plug a potato in the slots and it would work. With AMD, the best advice still is to stick to the QVL lists.

cucker tarlsonthink any 2x8 GB kit will work on 3000.but 4 sticks,higher speed is another story.there's the questions od fclk too

cucker tarlsonPlease,take a look at threads on memory compability issues around tpu, they're almost exclusively amd,including 3000.
If you think I'm making it up you can just check ya know?


It seems the price cuts are already in effect here.9800x is 1730pln now,was 2500pln before.beats 3800x by a couple of bucks but still 3700x is 1500-1600.

ratirtI don't think this is that much of an issue. You just buy memory that works with the processor. I think you are making this a bigger issue than it is in reality.

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You'd have to go back a really long way to see this kind of price reduction destruction from any of the major x86 chipmakers :D
In fact I don't remember the last time this happened possibly with the exception of FX 9570/90 or i7 6950x - which were both way overpriced, for what they actually offered.

cucker tarlsonPlease,take a look at threads on memory compability issues around tpu, they're almost exclusively amd,including 3000.
If you think I'm making it up you can just check ya know?


It seems the price cuts are already in effect here.9800x is 1730pln now,was 2500pln before.beats 3800x by a couple of bucks but still 3700x is 1500-1600.

thesmokingmanUsers will always have individual issues. If yer biased to Intel, that's your choice. But don't go around acting as if issues you've read about affect everyone as they do not. You don't have to justify your bias' to anyone ya know.

thesmokingmanUsers will always have individual issues. If yer biased to Intel, that's your choice. But don't go around acting as if issues you've read about affect everyone as they do not. You don't have to justify your bias' to anyone ya know.

EarthDogI don't think there is a sane and 'woke' soul around that can sit here with a straight face and say AMD Ryzen isn't more finicky with memory than Intel. Zen was a nightmare out of the box but improved (new platform, makes sense). Zen+ was also finicky, but not nearly as much as Zen. Zen 2 was even less finicky, but still more compared to Intel. It really is that simple.

ratirtI don't think this is that much of an issue. You just buy memory that works with the processor. I think you are making this a bigger issue than it is in reality.

thesmokingmanThere are memory kits that work perfectly well with Zen. I swapped my old b-die from skylake x into a Ryzen 3 build w/o one hiccup. Now if you choose to go with a different type (individual user choice), you will be taking on some effort to deal with the compatibility issues. And in context it IS a new platform that is maturing compared to Intel whose sitting on the same controller that they'd been fine tuning for a decade. That said, it's not something that keeps me up at night or prevent me from going one route or the other.

As this post says you guys are making it out to be a deal breaker when it's not. No one's telling that guy I quoted to bUy AMD. He implied AMD is crap therefor he'll still buy Intel when really it is that he prefers Intel. There's not a thing wrong with bias, just don't wrap it around bs.

thesmokingmanThere are memory kits that work perfectly well with Zen. I swapped my old b-die from skylake x into a Ryzen 3 build w/o one hiccup. Now if you choose to go with a different type (individual user choice), you will be taking on some effort to deal with the compatibility issues. And in context it IS a new platform that is maturing compared to Intel whose sitting on the same controller that they'd been fine tuning for a decade. That said, it's not something that keeps me up at night or prevent me from going one route or the other.

As this post says you guys are making it out to be a deal breaker when it's not. No one's telling that guy I quoted to bUy AMD. He implied AMD is crap therefor he'll still buy Intel when really it is that he prefers Intel. There's not a thing wrong with bias, just don't wrap it around bs.

fynxerHalf of Intel's originally astronomical price isn't good enuf. Will people even bother with x299 when AMD still givers more performance per dollar than Intel's halved prices.

Before even considering Intel's halved prices be sure to check out AMD performance per dollar and you also get PCIe 4.0

Sure PCIe 4.0 may not be a must tech today but you have to think a couple of years down the line when building a new system.

ALSO by NOT buying Intel you are sending a clear message to Intel that even half price of their originally astronomical prices is too expensive and they have to match or even go below AMD's performance per dollar to be relevant in the future.

cucker tarlsonno,I'm taking into account what matters to me.
trouble free experience is on par with performance per dollar.
if perf per dollar is same as amd,I'd go intel any day.
also,more 3.0 lanes > less 4.0 lanes.better have two x16,one x8 and one x4 at 3.0 than one x16 and one x4 at 4.0

theoneandonlymrkExactly, why these thread's turn into Bs.

cucker tarlsonwere I to choose between x570 and 3700x or x299 and 9800x at the same price I'd choose intel probably,better memory compability and quad channel.