Should have kept it on z390, at least people with existing boards would have bought it. But now, nobody cares.

Penev91Oh look, a new socket from Intel!

and it hasnt been 2 years!

What bothers me is that the chipset still on PCIe 3.0, I wonder if a BIOS update will give bring it to 4.0

hahahahhahahahahhha, def 1st april hahahahahaha

KokotasI like this timing since there will be enough benchmarks to show how well Intel's lineup will fare against AMD until ampere comes out in June. Sitting on a 6700k atm, I'm still excited about this release but I get that people who've already moved to Intel's 9th gen or Zen 2 won't have much interest in such an upgrade most likely.

Not sure what you are talking about. The 10900 (and other 10gen CPUs) has been benchmarked already. You know what these 10th gen Intel CPU can do. New chipset new socket. No surprise here though.
According to OP the new chipset will have mostly power efficiency settings in place and Better OC for cores and memory. We will see how the last one will pan out.
What is interesting is why wait till April? Intel needs to design the chipset first? I thought, all for the 10th gen was planned way in advance but I guess it wasn't.

Metroidhahahahhahahahahhha, def 1st april hahahahahaha

I wonder what the April release concerns here. The release date of the new chipset as Aprils fools or the chipset itself including 10th gen is Aprils fools for those who buy it.

". The platform also mentions an interesting specification: "enhanced core and memory overclocking." This could be the secret ingredient that makes the i9-10900K competitive with the likes of the Ryzen 9 3900X. "
ohhhh, i read it like that

"intel will make it compete with their own HEDT platform" ... since a R9 3900X/3950X already beat the I9-10980XE (yeah yeah i know i know .... Mainstream CPU are not HEDT CPU.... still does not change the fact that it can beat it soundly in most case scenario ... )

Intel is still sitting on their hands, it seems ...

intel will sell no matter node&performance vs competition; they afford to pump a lot of money in marketing ,discounts, etc... as usually

"Pentium is better" is still present

Could be compatible with Rocket Lake..... who knows? Amazingly the 9900k is compatible with Coffee Lake mobos. Then there was the whole 6700k to 7700k nonsense.

"14nm"
"new socket"

I just threw up...

So your i9 9900K/KF/KS will become i7. Bwahaha...

Oh this is nothing. The one time king of the hill (3 years ago) i7 7700k has become a humble i3...
If AMD did not release the ZEN platform, Intel could still marketing a 4c/8t as i7 at 2020

I wonder what CPU bugs lay waiting for unsuspecting customers just like Core2Duo, Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, Haswell, Broadwell, Skylake, Coffee Lake, even the latest with Cascade Lake.

Maybe we just say all of them!

From Skylake forward, Intel knew they were selling faulty CPUs... you might as well just disable Hyper-Threading now...

i wonder what AMD will bring next, looks like there's only one company trying to bring new stuff to the market anyways...

WORD:

f.A.i.L....

I'm still rockin a 6700k, and unless & until blue boys get their sh*t together & make something with 7nm++, pcie 4/5, AND decent priced mobo's to go with them, then I'm gonna stay put for now....

I welcome these products. Whatever they are priced, AMD will probably counter with a price cut, so it’s a win for all. I got a 2700X for just $129 on Black Friday. Yes, 8C/16T for $129!

And this new standby feature reminds me of Apple’s Power Nap feature, which has been around since 2013.

bonehead123WORD:

f.A.i.L....

I'm still rockin a 6700k, and unless & until blue boys get their sh*t together & make something with 7nm++, pcie 4/5, AND decent priced mobo's to go with them, then I'm gonna stay put for now....

decent priced mobos and intel new cpus don't sound right in the same sentence... idk if its my bad english sorry

Object55Should have kept it on z390, at least people with existing boards would have bought it. But now, nobody cares.

i willl buy this. i am sitting on a high refresh rate 1080p monitor and need 140fps+ in every game. if 10900k will be priced at 500$ it will be a killer for high refresh rate gaming.
9900k is fine too, but there is 2 more cores for probably same price

TurmaniaWho you are trying to fool? it is not like as if AMD stays in their TDP specs, in fact they are worse in that aspect to Intel, and there is the boost speeds fracas and somehow slow boot up and countless bios headaches... i did not want to go over this but since it has been brought up.... there is this ill faited, turning a blind eye to one company and they get away with everything.... AMD is no whiter than white, in fact they are more darker then Intel is.

yeah dude, my 3900x (105w tdp, 12 cores) running at max load at 4.375ghz consuming only 130W is way worse than the 9900K (95w tdp, 8 cores) consuming 200W at 5ghz lmao
the 9900K stays 100% in spec, meanwhile the 3900x? absurdly out of spec
also, what bios headaches? so far I've had no problems with anything related to bios with the 3900x

notb10900K itself doesn't look half bad if priced in line with AMD. At $500 it'll sell like hot cakes.
As usual, it's more important how the high volume, mid range models stack up ($150-300 range).

What Intel tells consumers:
"We put out the 10900K at $529 and she sold out like hot cakes! They're moving so fast off the shelves we can't keep them in stock!"

What Intel isn't telling consumers:
Those couple of wafers that yielded about 50 good CPUs for the 10900K - we sent one to each state in the US and they already sold. There's at least 1 rube in every state, let's try to push out more!

What Intel tells consumers:
"Our recent supply shortages has no impact on the availability of our 10th gen CPUs. We are working hard to keep up with demand and we are busy working on filling orders as fast as possible to get these amazing processors in everyone's hands."

What Intel isn't telling consumers:
Frank: Where'd you guys put the key to get into our fab? It's been 12 months and no one has found the key yet. Those ES we marked as legit CPUs are all sold out and we need to start mass producing. Someone please tell me you found the key.
Bob: (from the back of the crowd, you here an excited yell) I have a key!
Frank: Is that Bob? Hurry up here and open the door so we can actually start to make more.
Bob: Key doesn't work....Hmmm. I'll try it on the side entrance. Wait here. (Bob runs off around the end of the building. A moment later you hear Bob yelling) Everyone! The key works on this door! Hurry up!
Frank: Good job, Bob. Let's get in and get to work....(Frank swings open the door and silence sweeps over the crowed of employees as they enter the building and turn on the lights)
Bob: Frank? What is this place? Doesn't look like it's been used for a few years...the dust on all the equipment is kind of thick.
Frank: Well....seems like 22nm is back on the plate, boys. Let's at least get some Haswell back out there since we seem to be locked out of our 14nm labs.


Hahaha....all kidding aside. Hopefully Intel and AMD keep up the competition. Financially I'm in no spot to upgrade anytime soon so neither Intel nor AMD are really on my radar. Maybe by the time AMD's next Zen generation comes out I will have some money to finally upgrade to something newer than my 4670k.

AeonMW2i willl buy this. i am sitting on a high refresh rate 1080p monitor and need 140fps+ in every game. if 10900k will be priced at 500$ it will be a killer for high refresh rate gaming.
9900k is fine too, but there is 2 more cores for probably same price

Unlikely that more than 6 core makes >10% difference. but considering 6 core will be carved out of the 10 core die, such a waste, better buy the 10 core. And then what, willow/golden cove arrives with the 50% IPC uplift and the old CPu for resale at half the price of I3-11100. Better wait for the chase to settle down.

Eagerly waiting to see if the 10900K can beat the vaunted 9350K on userbenchmark. They need to issue a press statement on the updated necessity for higher core counts.

Sandy Bridge performance after all security fixes are applied i guess?

TheDeeGeeSandy Bridge performance after all security fixes are applied i guess?

Yeah, putting aside that Coffee Lake is already 50% faster than Sandy Bridge in single thread and you can get twice as many cores on mainstream platform, it's pretty much the same. :)

TheDeeGeeSandy Bridge performance after all security fixes are applied i guess?

www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=3900x-9900k-mitigations&num=1
On some areas, the difference is quite big.

Three questions (well okay, four because Q2 is a two-parter):

1. Does this finally have enough hardware mitigations for specultaive-execution attacks? Without them, all these hyperthreading improvements are meaningless because the vulnerability patches hurt performance and for a secure system, HT needs to be disabled in its entirety.
2. Why do we need a new socket? It's still using DDR4, not DDR5 (that's AMD's excuse for changing to socket AM5) and it's still using PCIe 3.0. Is Intel unable to physically fit more than 8 cores on a package at 14nm?
3. Is 10C the upper limit or are there hints that Intel have 12C and 16C models in the pipeline for later in 2020?

Object55Should have kept it on z390, at least people with existing boards would have bought it. But now, nobody cares.

Yeap. Folks such as myself might have considered them, were they a drop-in on current boards. Forget it now.