Monday, January 6th 2020

AMD Announces Radeon RX 5600 XT Graphics Card

AMD CEO Dr Lisa Su at the company's 2020 International CES address announced the company's e-sports flagship graphics card, the Radeon RX 5600 XT. This card is designed to dominate the sub-$300 market-segment that's been led by NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 1660-series. Based on 7 nm "Navi" silicon, the RX 5600 XT has surprisingly powerful specs: 2,304 stream processors across 36 RDNA compute units, which is the same as the RX 5700, but with some cost-cutting in the way of memory: 6 GB of GDDR6 across a 192-bit wide memory interface, and 12 Gbps memory speed. The GPU has a gaming engine clock of roughly 1500 MHz. Other key specs include 144 TMUs and 48 ROPs.

Designed with a 150 W typical board power target, the card draws power from a single 8-pin PCIe power connector. The RX 5600 XT is designed to provide 1080p e-sports gaming at high refresh-rates, or 1440p gaming at reasonable graphics settings. In its presentation, AMD showed the RX 5600 XT beating the GTX 1660 Ti that leads NVIDIA's GTX 16-series. With a price of USD $279 SEP, which is on-par with that of the GTX 1660 Ti, AMD looks to bring some serious competition to the $200-300 market-segment. Available January 21, 2020.
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86 Comments on AMD Announces Radeon RX 5600 XT Graphics Card

#1
dj-electric
Can i be the first one to say that 279-299$ for AIB designs for such card is a death sentence?
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#2
Daven
dj-electricCan i be the first one to say that 279-299$ for AIB designs for such card is a death sentence?
Lol...no
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#3
Vya Domus
Pretty weird product but I am guessing that by now these chip are becoming pretty cheap to make.
dj-electricCan i be the first one to say that 279-299$ for AIB designs for such card is a death sentence?
You can but why ? 300$ for a 1660Ti isn't uncommon and this thing is going to be faster that it. Why does AMD always have to price their equivalent products dismally low ?

Are they not allowed to make money, is this some strange conspiracy to keep AMD out of the elite high margins club of Nvidia ? The stuff I sometimes read on here man, it's like some of you are begging to be ripped off by one company in particular while the other is expected to die out.
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#4
chstamos
dj-electricCan i be the first one to say that 279-299$ for AIB designs for such card is a death sentence?
I have to agree, this was... underwhelming, to say the least. The performance-to-price ratio of 5700 and 5700XT had me expecting much more.
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#5
Daven
Vya DomusPretty weird product but I am guessing that by now these chip are becoming pretty cheap to make.



You can but why ? 300$ for a 1660Ti isn't uncommon and this thing is going to be faster that it. Why does AMD always have to price their equivalent products dismally low ?

Are they not allowed to make money, is this some strange conspiracy to keep AMD out of the elite high margins club of Nvidia ? The stuff I sometimes read on here man, it's like some of you are begging to be ripped off.
I agree with you 100%. I don't understand the logic of the other comments so far. 5600XT ($279) > 1600Ti ($279) > 1660 Super ($249).

I think the problem with the confusion on pricing is some of you think the 1660 Super is faster than the 1660 Ti like the Super in other SKU (2060, 2070, 208). It's not. The 1660 Ti is a little faster than the 1660 Super which is a little faster than the 1660.
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#6
dj-electric
Maybe since an RX 5700 AIB was already sold for 299$?


.... Myabe.
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#7
Daven
dj-electricMaybe since an RX 5700 AIB was already sold for 299$?


.... Myabe.
Cheapest 5700 on Newegg is $329. 5700 MSRP is $349. If we assume the 5600XT is the same speed as the Vega 56 then the 5700 is 16% faster at 25% higher price at MSRP prices.
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#8
dj-electric
It doesn't change the fact that...
dj-electrican RX 5700 AIB was already sold for 299$
And that will happen again at times.
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#9
Vya Domus
dj-electricMaybe since an RX 5700 AIB was already sold for 299$?
These cards are very close in terms of performance dude, naturally they're going to be close in price as well.
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#11
notb
Vya DomusThese cards are very close in terms of performance dude, naturally they're going to be close in price as well.
So why launch another product? What's the point? Because there was a numbering gap?
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#12
Daven
dj-electricIt doesn't change the fact that...



And that will happen again at times.
So company MSRPs must be based on a scale equivalent to spot sale prices on a random website 6 months after a product was released?
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#13
oxrufiioxo
I'm not overly surprised by the price AMD isn't running a charity and they will always price at or slightly cheaper than similar performing cards from Nvidia.
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#14
Agent_D
Mark LittleI agree with you 100%. I don't understand the logic of the other comments so far. 5600XT ($279) > 1600Ti ($279) > 1660 Super ($249).
You can find the 5700 regularly at $279, I saw some just last week and purchased one a few months ago at the same price on Newegg. Now, that isn't AIB, so if something like the Asus Strix 5600XT drops at $279, it *might* be ok, but it still feels like these cards should have dropped with a slightly lower MSRP. At 10-20% increased performance of the 1660Ti, that still puts it ~20% slower than the 5700, but also at ~20% lower MSRP ($349 vs $279).

Overall, at $279 for a good AIB iteration like the Strix, Gaming X, Aorus, Taichi, etc, it's likely ok pricing, but picking up a 5700 when they are at $279 is still the best deal currently, and with a small undervolt, they are almost inaudible, I run my 5700 at 935mv and it's not noticeable over ambient sound unless it is absolutely silent in the room.
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#15
notb
Agent_DOverall, at $279 for a good AIB iteration like the Strix, Gaming X, Aorus, Taichi, etc, it's likely ok pricing, but picking up a 5700 when they are at $279 is still the best deal currently, and with a small undervolt, they are almost inaudible, I run my 5700 at 935mv and it's not noticeable over ambient sound unless it is absolutely silent in the room.
If $279 is the recommended AIB price, it'll be for the low/mid range models (like MSI Armor). Top models will easily go past $300.
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#16
Sithaer
Tbh the pricing is pretty much what I expected and its alright imo.

I'm in the market for a new GPU in this price range and I was considering a 1660 Super but if this card is the same price as the 1660 Ti but performs somewhat better then I don't see how is that a bad deal in my case.
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#17
john_
Vya DomusPretty weird product but I am guessing that by now these chip are becoming pretty cheap to make.
There is also the possibility that they don't have enough capacity from TSMC to throw on GPUs. So, pricing 5500 and 5600 at low prices, would have been pointless. Huge demand would led to shortages and prices going up. The end result would have been AMD getting all the blame, while retailers pocketing the money.
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#18
Cheeseball
Not a Potato
The 5700 XT at ~$399 was a great move. It beats the 2070 non-Super and competes with the 2070 Super at price-to-performance.

The 5500 XT at $169(?) to $200.00 (with some AIBs at $219 to $239 unfortunately) is not really competitive when the 1660 non-Super and sometimes the 1650 Super beating it out.

This 5600 XT is apparently aimed at the 1660 Ti and not the 2060 non-Super, so they can justify the $279.00 MSRP. AMD would've had another bang-for-buck if they targeted $249.00 instead.
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#19
R0H1T
john_The end result would have been AMD getting all the blame, while retailers pocketing the money.
Still happening for the CPUs as we speak, the gouging on TR3 & 3950x is :nutkick:
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#20
Daven
Agent_DYou can find the 5700 regularly at $279, I saw some just last week and purchased one a few months ago at the same price on Newegg. Now, that isn't AIB, so if something like the Asus Strix 5600XT drops at $279, it *might* be ok, but it still feels like these cards should have dropped with a slightly lower MSRP. At 10-20% increased performance of the 1660Ti, that still puts it ~20% slower than the 5700, but also at ~20% lower MSRP ($349 vs $279).

Overall, at $279 for a good AIB iteration like the Strix, Gaming X, Aorus, Taichi, etc, it's likely ok pricing, but picking up a 5700 when they are at $279 is still the best deal currently, and with a small undervolt, they are almost inaudible, I run my 5700 at 935mv and it's not noticeable over ambient sound unless it is absolutely silent in the room.
I can't find the 5700 for the prices you quote. Did you pick up your's during black friday or cyber november sales?
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#21
Durvelle27
Why does everyone always expect AMD to under sell their products
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#22
notb
Durvelle27Why does everyone always expect AMD to under sell their products
Well, because they used to do that.

Here's another question: since everyone always expects AMD to be the cheaper option, who will buy their cards when they aren't?
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#23
Durvelle27
notbWell, because they used to do that.

Here's another question: since everyone always expects AMD to be the cheaper option, who will buy their cards when they aren't?
Many will

Including myself

Owned a 5700XT 50th Anniversary, Sapphire RX 5700 XT, and now my ASRock 5700

If the performance is there at reasonable cost compared to the alternative people will still buy.
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#24
notb
Durvelle27Owned a 5700XT 50th Anniversary, Sapphire RX 5700 XT, and now my ASRock 5700
You've already running your third 5700XT? Why, if I may ask?
If the performance is there at reasonable cost compared to the alternative people will still buy.
But there's a group of clients who were buying because of the raw performance value. That's gone, so they'll leave.
Does this card offer any selling point (feature etc) that will bring new clients? I don't see any.
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#25
Darmok N Jalad
This is the starting price. Nvidia will counter. AMD will counter back. Plus, once Polaris is gone, I expect the 5500 and 5600 to take those price slots. It may take a while, but we’re looking at decent upgrades from current mid-range.

My bit of disappointment is that no 5800 series was discussed. I didn’t expect it, as there were no rumors leading up to CES about it, but still, that will be the place where the market disruption will help us most.
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