Let's see if they could knock out the Radeons like what the name suggests.

So the "KO" means regular 2060 and 1660Ti being "KOed" by this one selling at 1660Ti prices ?

Cheaper Navi cards are kinda suckin price/performance wise either way.

Might just be EVGA card, either way it's cute and will make fan boys cry.

So, by all practical metrics, the RTX on this thing will be useless?

"Priced at a small premium" yeah more like greed prices

Ray Tracing hasn't fully evolved properly just yet. Though I don't see it as a deciding factor when purchasing a GPU at the moment. RT also decreases performance quite a lot.

FluffmeisterCheaper Navi cards are kinda suckin price/performance wise either way.

Might just be EVGA card, either way it's cute and will make fan boys cry.

5500XT priced to clear Polaris stock. Then 5600XT priced to clear what stock? Vega?

And yeah "they" are already here if you know what I mean, always spot on~

Super XPRay Tracing hasn't fully evolved properly just yet. Though I don't see it as a deciding factor when purchasing a GPU at the moment. RT also decreases performance quite a lot.

More like cripples

MistralSo, by all practical metrics, the RTX on this thing will be useless?

Complaints when RTX is a high priority, complaints when RTX is a low priority.

eidairaman1More like cripples

I was being gentle with my wording lol, but you are correct, Ray Tracing cripples, it even cripples the high end Nvidia GPu's.

Super XPI was being gentle with my wording lol, but you are correct, Ray Tracing cripples, it even cripples the high end Nvidia GPu's.

I call it what it is.

Super XPRay Tracing hasn't fully evolved properly just yet. Though I don't see it as a deciding factor when purchasing a GPU at the moment. RT also decreases performance quite a lot.

Without forget impact tdp seriously

:)

What's all this kneejerk reactions from nvidia? TBH its really hurting their product stack. Hope the next gen doesn't suffer from it because damn its getting confusing naming and price wise

So, its a Gimped RTX 2060?

TesterAnonSo, its a Gimped RTX 2060?

Seems to be the RTX 2060 before the RTX 2060 Super.

TesterAnonSo, its a Gimped RTX 2060?

Not gimped. It's not a new SKU. It's just RTX 2060 with a board design that's been built to cost and priced under $300 to compete with RX 5600 XT.

PLSG08What's all this kneejerk reactions from nvidia? TBH its really hurting their product stack. Hope the next gen doesn't suffer from it because damn its getting confusing naming and price wise

EVGA is Nvidia most prominent AIB so they have some leeway on how to make their own product aside from Nvidia product stack, like this 2070 Super with 15.5gbps GDDR6
www.evga.com/products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=7e7e3085-1fe0-4dc1-98ec-74be1221441e
I guess this version of the 2060 exist within EVGA only.

eidairaman1I call it what it is.

lol,someone is cranky,has 5600xt been KO'd before it arrives just like 5500xt ? :laugh:

complains when nvidia prices get higher,complains when nvidia prices get lower.
cheers when amd sells a card that's rx590 competitor for more money.
oh well.......

FluffmeisterCheaper Navi cards are kinda suckin price/performance wise either way.

Might just be EVGA card, either way it's cute and will make fan boys cry.

it already has :laugh:

Endless artificial product segmentation.

2060 is in second half of it's lifetime. It just gets cheaper. We all knew this will happen. 5600XT is not competing with Turing MSRP. It's competing with Turing on sale because Ampere is already in closed beta.

And OMG on all the anti RTX comments. Get a grip people. It's going mainstream this year. Even your favourite company is working on a solution.

notb2060 is in second half of it's lifetime. It just gets cheaper. We all knew this will happen. 5600XT is not competing with Turing MSRP. It's competing with Turing on sale because Ampere is already in closed beta.

And OMG on all the anti RTX comments. Get a grip people. It's going mainstream this year. Even your favourite company is working on a solution.

I'll call rtrt mainstream when all the games set it as default and I have to lower it to get higher fps.
Or you think it'll become mainstream before even DirectX 12 becomes mainstream?

OTOH I'm not opposed to cheaper price without performance loss. If AMD gets fucked in the process of discounts boohoo!!! And people made fun of Nvidia's 400 series coming nine months after ATI's 5000 series.

Btw I seriously thought they meant KO as in knockoff

KhonjelI'll call rtrt mainstream when all the games set it as default and I have to lower it to get higher fps.

Why would all the games use it?
By definition RTRT is meant to make games more realistic. So in some games it just won't be used because it's against design principles.
Your condition will never be fulfilled.

Initially it'll also be expensive to implement, so some studios will delay the transition - even if they wanted.

BTW: Do you think 3D gaming is mainstream? We still have 2D games.

Or you think it'll become mainstream before even DirectX 12 becomes mainstream?

I stopped tracking what's happening to DX12. I don't care what API a game runs.
DX12 may be the most obvious path to RTRT, but it's not the only way.

Btw I seriously thought they meant KO as in knockoff

Nvidia used the KO naming some time ago. You can look it up. Maybe some meaning was given.

FluffmeisterCheaper Navi cards are kinda suckin price/performance wise either way.

Might just be EVGA card, either way it's cute and will make fan boys cry.

So the RTX 2060 KO KOs their 1660 Ti? :D

notbIt's going mainstream this year. Even your favourite company is working on a solution.

How do you know it is going mainstream this year? All I see is in the nearly 1,5 year RTX is on the market, we got only 2 games (if I'm right) with initial RTX support. These are Metro: Exodus and Control. The RTX announced titles like BFV and SotTR got their RTX support in a later patch. It was also promised that FFXV will get RTX support, but it was cancelled. And you have Quake 2 with RTX... This is the RTX lineup so far. BFV had to be updated, because - as a competitive game - couldn't run with fix 60 fps on FHD with a 2080Ti with RTX set to high/ultra, so they had to lower graphics quality in a later patch to provide better performance. And that is FHD with a $1000 GPU (which is $1100 in reality). Metro and Tomb Raider both had minimums halved compared to average, meaning a 2080Ti provided 40-45 fps minimums on FHD... Same for Control.

Super XPRay Tracing hasn't fully evolved properly just yet. Though I don't see it as a deciding factor when purchasing a GPU at the moment. RT also decreases performance quite a lot.

As opposed to other techniques that speed it up?
Tesselation incurs a performance hit. Shading incurs a performance hit. Lighting incurs a performance hit. If it weren't for all these pesky techniques, we'd be enjoying Wolfenstein at 1,000,000 fps by now.

Edit: More on topic, I think Nvidia has squeezed all there was from Turing by now. Going forward it's Ampere or bust (i.e. whoever didn't buy into Turing by now, most likely never will).

Super XPRay Tracing hasn't fully evolved properly just yet.

Because even 2080Ti is pathetically underpowered at it to deliver anything beyond basic reflection/shades gimmicks.
And that is not going to change any time soon.