Wednesday, January 29th 2020
AMD to Debut 2nd Gen RDNA Architecture in 2020
AMD CEO Dr Lisa Su, in her Q4-2019 and FY-2019 earnings call, confirmed that the company debut its second-generation RDNA graphics architecture in 2020. "In 2019 we launched our new architecture in GPUs, it's the RDNA architecture, and that was the Navi-based products. You should expect those will be refreshed in 2020, and we will have our new next-generation RDNA architecture that will be part our 2020 lineup."
Second-gen RDNA, or RDNA2, is expected to leverage the new 7 nm+ (EUV) silicon fabrication process at TSMC, to dial up transistor-counts, clock-speeds, and performance. Among the two anticipated feature additions are VRS (variable rate shading) and possibly ray-tracing. The fabled "big Navi" silicon, a GPU larger than "Navi 10," is also on the cards, according to an earlier statement by Dr Su. More details about these upcoming graphics cards are expected to be put out in March, at the 2020 AMD Investor Day conference.
Second-gen RDNA, or RDNA2, is expected to leverage the new 7 nm+ (EUV) silicon fabrication process at TSMC, to dial up transistor-counts, clock-speeds, and performance. Among the two anticipated feature additions are VRS (variable rate shading) and possibly ray-tracing. The fabled "big Navi" silicon, a GPU larger than "Navi 10," is also on the cards, according to an earlier statement by Dr Su. More details about these upcoming graphics cards are expected to be put out in March, at the 2020 AMD Investor Day conference.
81 Comments on AMD to Debut 2nd Gen RDNA Architecture in 2020
It usually takes 12-15 months from tapeout to product launch, and they can't really implement anything new in those last months, so AMD probably had already completed the Navi 2x design back when Navi 10 launched.
But if AMD are to ship a "big Navi" with twice the performance of RX 5700 XT, then they are going to need a whole lot more than small iterative changes like Zen -> Zen+, to keep it under 350-400W.
http in 2020...
As for RDNA Navi's basically the same as as RX 480 to the RX 580, both of those will be likely be provided small up-tick in performance, and will be a re-name down on that new naming convention and would think we'd see slight reductions (~5-8%) to price all to perhaps permit a Big chip of RDNA2 (some 3rd gelding) into a below $500 price.
Yea, it not exciting but I think RGT is we'll be poised to get there before most of the real bulk of mainstream Ampere Gaming cards, so RGT will have several months to make hay as Nvidia has to clear the channel and I doubt they can stomach doing that on price. Then after Nvidia gets most of the mainstream Ampere are out perhaps a little more than a year from now, RGT will be ready to move newer RDNA2 cards to release in competition.
EDIT: and it appears they do support https on that same link, but not automatically becausr the cert is self signed or something. Certainly could do better.
www.xfxsupport.com/Account/Register.aspx
Unable to communicate securely with peer: requested domain name does not match the server’s certificate.
HTTP Strict Transport Security: false
HTTP Public Key Pinning: false
I know XFX isn't the biggest company, but, like you said, they can definitely do better.
I'd still register with https vs without (anything is better than nothing), but yes, very unprofessional.
And no more RDNA1 7nm GPUs. Hopefully AMD puts the ATI back into Graphics :toast:Umm, there is NO RDNA1 Refreshes happening. The term "Refresh" Dr. Lisa Su mentioned is explaining that all current RDNA1 NAVI GPUs will be replaced with RDNA2 graphics, they are not releasing RDNA1 graphics cards as refreshes.
Though I remember weighing midrange cards at the time and still going with the GTX460. It's possible ATI was only better at the high end, whereas the 8000 and 9000 wiped the floor with Nvidia from top to bottom.In other words, you're wishing for them to perpetually lag behind. Got it ;)
I didn't say anything about "refresh" of silicon. Same old silicone just coming in with betterment from process, which I think TSMC 7nm can provide. RGT can then just tweak with a slight clock/memory bumps while hold TDP from such process improvements.
All indications point to RDNA1 going EOL as soon as RDNA2 is ready to replace it.
I am sure the next generation consoles have a lot to do with the push to get RDNA2 out the door and into the wild.
AMD moved a few of their ZEN engineers to assist the Radeon Technology Group (RTG) with RDNA2.
AMD clarified that the Navi "refresh" will consist of new cards based on the next-gen RDNA architecture.
Zen 3 is expected around end of year (or slip into early 2021).
AMD/RTG has been on TSMC 7nm for awhile and have been first in line using and asking wanting their fab capacity. Knowing Nvidia's larger market they must supply; they're the one's hoping for "capacity", and now are coming in late asking to get "in on the action". Nvidia are the ones signaling to perhaps go to Samsung, and I'm sure TSMC isn't liking their remarks of thinking of going/giving production to Samsung, while then there's the fact Nvidia didn't get on board for their 7nm production first.
Most of what we consider is baked and going to get today, got into the cakes' batter year(s) ago .
AMD will also be taking all of Apple's 7nm share to eventually make AMD the largest customer acquiring more than half the TSMC capacity. AMD needs the capacity for Next Generation Gaming Consoles, RDNA2 GPUs and ZEN3 all coming in 2020.
As for Samsung, they've been having issues with there 7nm process node last I checked.