Monday, April 6th 2020
Intel 10th Gen Core Desktop Marketing Materials Confirm Core Counts
Marketing materials of Intel's upcoming 10th generation Core "Comet Lake-S" desktop processors leaked to the web confirm the lineup's core-counts. The series will be led by 10-core/20-thread Core i9 processors, with Thermal Velocity Boost frequencies of up to 5.30 GHz. The Core i7 series will consist of 8-core/16-thread processors, with up to 5.10 GHz TVB frequencies. The Core i5 series gets its biggest shot in the arm, with the introduction of HyperThreading for the first time in 8 generations (the last Core i5 desktop processors with HTT were dual-core first-generation Core chips). The 10th gen Core i5 series chips are 6-core/12-thread, with clock-speeds running up to 4.80 GHz.
These frequencies should indicate two interesting things. One, that the Core i5-10600K will outperform the Core i7-8700K (6-core/12-thread, up to 4.70 GHz boost), resulting in a roughly 35% increase in price-performance vs. the i7-8700K, if it ends up being priced at $260. Two, that the Core i7-10700K will outperform the Core i9-9900K on virtue of 100 MHz higher frequencies, and give the segment a roughly 30% price-performance increase compared to the i9-9900K, if the i7-10700K ends up priced at $380. The Core i9-10900K will outperform the i9-9900K both in single- and multi-threaded fronts given its 300 MHz higher max boost and two extra cores (four extra threads), in what could be a roughly 25% price-performance gain, assuming an unchanged $500 price.Intel's ability to price the i9-10900K north of $500 will be severely restricted by AMD's positioning of the Ryzen 9 3900X, given that the 12-core chip has sold for around $450 in more than one seasonal sale. A bill-of-materials analysis from February suggests that AMD has given itself "massive" cost-cutting headroom with its chiplet approach, and can aggressively cut prices of the 3900X to compete with the i9-10900K. The same goes for its Ryzen 7 3800X and Ryzen 5 3600X.
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These frequencies should indicate two interesting things. One, that the Core i5-10600K will outperform the Core i7-8700K (6-core/12-thread, up to 4.70 GHz boost), resulting in a roughly 35% increase in price-performance vs. the i7-8700K, if it ends up being priced at $260. Two, that the Core i7-10700K will outperform the Core i9-9900K on virtue of 100 MHz higher frequencies, and give the segment a roughly 30% price-performance increase compared to the i9-9900K, if the i7-10700K ends up priced at $380. The Core i9-10900K will outperform the i9-9900K both in single- and multi-threaded fronts given its 300 MHz higher max boost and two extra cores (four extra threads), in what could be a roughly 25% price-performance gain, assuming an unchanged $500 price.Intel's ability to price the i9-10900K north of $500 will be severely restricted by AMD's positioning of the Ryzen 9 3900X, given that the 12-core chip has sold for around $450 in more than one seasonal sale. A bill-of-materials analysis from February suggests that AMD has given itself "massive" cost-cutting headroom with its chiplet approach, and can aggressively cut prices of the 3900X to compete with the i9-10900K. The same goes for its Ryzen 7 3800X and Ryzen 5 3600X.
48 Comments on Intel 10th Gen Core Desktop Marketing Materials Confirm Core Counts
Good news for consumers, we'll probably have a price war which hopefully will push prices down.
I totally agree. Ryzen really screwed up Intel's plan to milk the crap out of isheep using those quad cores.
I don't see how even Intel employees would categorise it as "better than the best" :kookoo:
Yeah...since it was posted on SD it's been over a month. 3700X is $270.
Edit: Also keep in mine you could knock another $20 off with some motherboard combos.
10900k will have top tier 10 cores dies since they don't use 10 core on laptop, but the 10700k will surely also use the 10 core die
For the 6 cores I guess they'll use defective 8 core from laptop and so on
If that's the case this lineup is more of an update for intel than for consumer, because they'll keep top tier dies for laptop to optimize perf/watt and throw every rejects to desktop market
I'm still not thanking AMD for anything except their IPC increases and finally being competitive on the PERFORMANCE front. The fact that they have 12c+ processors on the mainstream is ridiculous today and will be for years. 90% of users will have no problems with a 8c/16t CPU for the next couple/few years (even those who do more than 'game'). I'd rather have another generation limited to ~8c/16t on mainstream with even higher IPC/more arch improvements than to shove useless cores and threads down the mainstream throat.
Due to the number of cores/threads it has blurred the lines between mainstream and HEDT. The unadorned see more cores/threads and think it is better, when the reality, for most people, is they don't help. A bare minimum rig that includes gaming and other activities is a 6c/6t CPU. A 4c/8t CPU can still hang in MOST titles with a performance penalty. With consoles coming out, we'll finally see some momentum in actually UTILIZING (not using) 8c/16t, so that certainly helps (in time). But like some said about ray tracing when it came out, that's nice, but its a generation or two away from being a game changer... same with all these cores and threads. Remember Hex cores have been out for almost 9 years already and we just got past 4c/4t being 'minimum'/holding things back.
dang guys, yall finally realized that intel is, yet again, using the same architecture on LGA1159... just saying, should be compatible with LGA1151. Who cares what "leakers" are saying? We know what they said about LGA1151 vs v2, same socket. As a matter of fact, Intel did test 8th gen 6 core dies on 10th gen processors, with the new socket and everything, and it worked. I am 100% sure there is a way to make them work on older LGA1151 boards.
Anyway, the marketing slide is a little off. i9 is 10 core and 20 threads. I am not sure why they mentioned it as up to 10 core and up to 20t. For boost speed of up to 5.3Ghz, I can understand, but not for the core count and threads.