Sunday, April 12th 2020
Intel Core i9-10900F Can Allegedly Pull Up to 224 W
As if reports of Intel's latest mobile flagship Core i9-10980HK pulling up to 135 W power in short bursts to achieve its 5.30 GHz Thermal Velocity Boost (TVB) frequency weren't bad enough, it appears like the 10th generation Core desktop processors won't win Intel any prizes in the energy efficiency contests. According to tech Tweeter "@9550Pro," citing Chinese enthusiast @Wolstame, with a reasonably high hit-rate with tech rumors, Intel's upcoming Core i9-10900F processor can pull up to 224 Watts of power. The i9-10900F isn't even an unlocked chip like i9-10900K, but rather an iGPU-disabled version of the locked i9-10900.
The i9-10900F 10-core/20-thread processor allegedly has its PL1 value set at 170 W, and PL2 at 224 W. The latter is probably needed to give the chip's TVB algorithm power headroom to achieve either the chip's 5.30 GHz TVB max frequency, or its maximum all-core boost frequency of 4.50 GHz. The latter could be Intel's strategy to take on AMD's Ryzen 9 3900X and 3950X in multi-threaded benchmarks (run 10 cores at 4.50 GHz). Intel is possibly looking to price the i9-10900 series (i9-10900F, i9-10900, i9-10900KF, and i9-10900K) at price-points ranging between $450-500, if not more. With these power-draw figures, it's all but certain that Intel could recommend serious cooling solutions for the i9-10900 series, at least a 240 mm x 120 mm AIO. AMD recommends a 280 mm x 140 mm AIO for the 16-core 3950X.
Sources:
Wolstame (Weibo), 9550Pro (Twitter)
The i9-10900F 10-core/20-thread processor allegedly has its PL1 value set at 170 W, and PL2 at 224 W. The latter is probably needed to give the chip's TVB algorithm power headroom to achieve either the chip's 5.30 GHz TVB max frequency, or its maximum all-core boost frequency of 4.50 GHz. The latter could be Intel's strategy to take on AMD's Ryzen 9 3900X and 3950X in multi-threaded benchmarks (run 10 cores at 4.50 GHz). Intel is possibly looking to price the i9-10900 series (i9-10900F, i9-10900, i9-10900KF, and i9-10900K) at price-points ranging between $450-500, if not more. With these power-draw figures, it's all but certain that Intel could recommend serious cooling solutions for the i9-10900 series, at least a 240 mm x 120 mm AIO. AMD recommends a 280 mm x 140 mm AIO for the 16-core 3950X.
33 Comments on Intel Core i9-10900F Can Allegedly Pull Up to 224 W
How the tables have turned!
10 lbs of ***t in a 5 lb bag... or in this case - 10 cores of heat in a 6 core process.
This is not under 65C which would supposedly add the TVB boost.
Matches the expectations pretty nicely.
Based on Intel CPUs so far, this should not be an out-of-box configuration, especially for a non-K CPU.
Note the 150-170W PL1. 224W PL2 might be accurate enough, that has been reported before and Tau must also be set to a very high value.
Whether this is Intel or motherboard manufacturers' shenanigans is a good question and I guess we'll see. Ever since 8700K the K-models tend to stray from default power limits. Non-K models have been using defaults though. Defaults are PL1 = TDP, PL2 = 1.25 TDP and Tau = 8s.
Another redundant socket change.
Another CPU series made in a process that was OK with only 4 cores.
Now with no included cooling? This was the moment to present new stock heatsinks to get some good PR.
Costs, efficiency and anything sub-14nm be damned.
The downside is that power consumption and heat goes up. Seriously Intel, it's time to put 14nm to rest.
£800.
Are they being serious??
Look ma! I turned off the heat in my room and I'm still baking!
And if you think that these numbers by themselves look bad for the 10900F, just wait until you see this.
Intel: 10 cores, 224 Watts :twitch:
AMD: 16 cores, 145 Watts
Good God, Intel is fucked. :shadedshu:
I guess Intel should just skip this launch for the MSDT and instead redirect all the efforts towards promoting affordable and inefficient HEDT systems with the 10th generation lineup.
When AMD was nowhere with its Zambezi/Vishera, they simply stopped further development, and focused on Zen.