Monday, June 29th 2020
AMD "Cezanne" APU to Stick with "Vega" iGPU, "Van Gogh" Gets RDNA2
The earliest reports on AMD's next-generation "Cezanne" APU silicon pointed at the possibility of the chip combining "Zen 3" CPU cores with a next-generation iGPU solution based on RDNA2 ("Navi 2#"). AMD plans to launch "Cezanne" in 2021, which makes it the immediate successor to "Renoir." A report by Igor's Lab has fresh details on "Cezanne." Apparently the chip sticks with the "Vega" graphics architecture on its iGPU. This doesn't necessarily mean that it's the same exact iGPU as the 8 CU version on "Renoir."
On the other hand, the "Van Gogh" silicon slated for 2021 is expected to receive RDNA2 graphics. It's important to note here that "Van Gogh" and "Cezanne" sit in the same product stack, and "Van Gogh" does not succeed "Cezanne." Rather, it's the codename for an entry-level APU, succeeding "Dali" (Athlon 3000G), which also means the RDNA2-based iGPU will be a lot slimmer than the "Vega" based one on "Cezanne." It's only by 2022 that AMD will have a performance-segment APU with RDNA2-based iGPU, with "Rembrandt." Find our older article getting into AMD's roadmaps here.
Source:
Igor's Lab
On the other hand, the "Van Gogh" silicon slated for 2021 is expected to receive RDNA2 graphics. It's important to note here that "Van Gogh" and "Cezanne" sit in the same product stack, and "Van Gogh" does not succeed "Cezanne." Rather, it's the codename for an entry-level APU, succeeding "Dali" (Athlon 3000G), which also means the RDNA2-based iGPU will be a lot slimmer than the "Vega" based one on "Cezanne." It's only by 2022 that AMD will have a performance-segment APU with RDNA2-based iGPU, with "Rembrandt." Find our older article getting into AMD's roadmaps here.
12 Comments on AMD "Cezanne" APU to Stick with "Vega" iGPU, "Van Gogh" Gets RDNA2
Still it's dissapointing that APU's will largely keep using what many consider bad or at least inferior IP for the GPU portion for the next ~two years to come. Especially when even the new consoles will use RDNA2 and same with low power Van Gogh based laptops next year.
Rembrandt however seems to be shaping up a killer product - 5nm Zen4 + RDNA2. Unfortunately it's years away.
But, even though I would love to see RDNA in APU's ASAP, if they can VEGA to perform better and get it the new features of RDNA, and update the media engine. Then it's good enough, I mean with Ryzen 4000 APU's they brought better performance and efficiency than Ryzen 3000 APU's while using less CU's. The higher clocks and optimised worked very well. But, if the rumours are to be believed, Intel might finally caught up with AMD with their next gen. Xe iGPU's.. So AMD needs even better thing than what they already have in Ryzen 4000 APU's.
But im also biased. II never liked Vega aside from it's use of HBM in the mainstream and ditching analogue IO ports like DVI.
I've always liked pure gaming only architectures like Pascal or Navi. Instead of repurposed compute first architectures like Vega and Turing.
That being said im not an APU user myself as i have 3800X but i understand many people are and i often suggest APU's for my friends, coworkers etc.
And those codes do not mean the same for the discrete GPUs ofc as we already know.
Still, Vega one more time... AMD pulling an Intel on us.