Looks like a lot of good reports in r/nvidia for this driver. :clap:

Reminds me of the September 10.9.x driver for my reference RX 5700 XT where RTG fixed the majority (not all) of TDR and black screen issues.

First comment the reddit page. Thats a 10% increase from a single driver update.

OMG thank you for this RTX 3080 Gigabyte Gaming OC owner here and NO CRASHES AT STOCK anymore for now, the clock speeds are locked between 1980mhz and 1965mhz AND i gained better performance on SOTR 1440p Maxed out with DLSS and Ray tracing.

456.38 Driver : 84 FPS

456.55 Driver : 93 FPS

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EDIT: Sounds like this driver refined the boosting a bit for the 3080 keep the card closer or under 2GHZ. Some are still seeing boosts over 2GHZ and no crashing where as before it did. These people with cards that boost that high might be a good bin as well.

Love to see it! Wondering if the caps weren't really the issue here... good to see that at least some people are seeing a positive response AND it isn't taking away performance.

Let's hope we see this fade to MEH quicker than the black screen issues that still plague AMD cards. :)

In before "LOL Nvidia just gimped its super duper GPUs".

EarthDogLove to see it! Wondering if the caps weren't really the issue here... good to see that at least some people are seeing a positive response AND it isn't taking away performance.

Let's hope we see this fade to MEH quicker than the black screen issues that still plague AMD cards. :)

I bet JayZTwoCentz is freaking out right now. He made a video instantly talking about how its a board component issue. I sat back thinking a driver would come soon and this would all mostly be fixed.

ChomiqIn before "LOL Nvidia just gimped its super duper GPUs".

Just seems like a boost algorithm refinement. Some people are reporting slightly lower clocks, or the same, but no crashes. No reduction in performance for either camp too.

MxPhenom 216I bet JayZTwoCentz is freaking out right now. He made a video instantly talking about how its a board component issue. I sat back thinking a driver would come soon and this would all mostly be fixed.



Just seems like a boost algorithm refinement. Some people are reporting slightly lower clocks, or the same, but no crashes. No reduction in performance for either camp too.

I'll hold judgment RE: if this is an actual fix or not... but the initial response seems positive so far. :)

PLZ! RETEST 3080 IN YOUR REVIEWS, compare performance and verify they did not cut down boost and removed performance to fix the problem.

fynxerRETEST YOUR 3080 REVIEW to verify they did not remove performance to fix.

Check Reddit. Some are reporting better performance in some titles while also reporting slightly lower average clocks.

Wonder if they just upped the voltage tables.

bubbleawsomeWonder if they just upped the voltage tables.

IF that's what they did, it'd almost definitely prove the "capacitor theory" wrong.

Drawing more power to fix stability issues is certainly a valid strategy. But only if your power-delivery (ie: capacitors) are good enough to handle it.

dragontamer5788IF that's what they did, it'd almost definitely prove the "capacitor theory" wrong.

Drawing more power to fix stability issues is certainly a valid strategy. But only if your power-delivery (ie: capacitors) are good enough to handle it.

I think they might have actually done the opposite. Voltage probably stayed the same, the boost curve has changed though.

fynxerPLZ! RETEST 3080 IN YOUR REVIEWS, compare performance and verify they did not cut down boost and removed performance to fix the problem.

I don't think a complete retest is necessary.

Just a "diff" review, maybe 3 or 4 games that were clearly GPU-limited, would be sufficient to see if there's been a major performance change.

MxPhenom 216I think they might have actually done the opposite. Voltage probably stayed the same, the boost curve has changed though.

Hmm, I guess that's valid. Undervolting (the boost-curve at least) to reduce the amount of power drawn from capacitors would lighten the load.

EarthDogLove to see it! Wondering if the caps weren't really the issue here... good to see that at least some people are seeing a positive response AND it isn't taking away performance.

Let's hope we see this fade to MEH quicker than the black screen issues that still plague AMD cards. :)

If the component choice wasn't the issue, I wonder why so many AIBs have said so?

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/nvidia-aib-partners-clarify-rtx-3080-3090-crash-to-desktop-issues-capacitor-choices.272676/

EVGA

Recently there has been some discussion about the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 series.

During our mass production QC testing we discovered a full 6 POSCAP solution cannot pass the real world applications testing. It took almost a week of R&D effort to find the cause and reduce the POSCAPs to 4 and add 20 MLCC caps prior to shipping production boards, this is why the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 series was delayed at launch. There were no 6 POSCAP production EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 boards shipped.

thesmokingmanIf the component choice wasn't the issue, I wonder why so many AIBs have said so?

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/nvidia-aib-partners-clarify-rtx-3080-3090-crash-to-desktop-issues-capacitor-choices.272676/

..but if component choice IS the issue, why are users reporting a fix with drivers? Some may just be teetering on the edge of stability.

It can be both.... :)

EarthDog..but if component choice IS the issue, why are users reporting a fix with drivers? Some may just be teetering on the edge of stability.

It can be both.... :)

Clearly they worked their magic on the drivers to reduce the problems with whatever cap layout. That was the whole point of pushing this driver out. However it doesn't change the fact that this release is buggered with hardware issues. Driver band-aid check.

I think I read somewhere that aggressive core MHz ramping up/down will cause that problem. So bringing down the acceleration of clock ramping would solve this problem of instability.

MxPhenom 216I bet JayZTwoCentz is freaking out right now. He made a video instantly talking about how its a board component issue. I sat back thinking a driver would come soon and this would all mostly be fixed.

Even at a virtual 2 cents, Jay is grossly overcharging. How can ya put any faith a guy who drills holes thru a MpBo to mount a cooler, cutting thru circuit traces destroying and destroying a $400 board, ? No reasonable person would believe anything he says.

Still can't stop shaking my head about the "rush to judgement" and turning a blind eye to facts, in a the space, where ... one would think, logic would prevail ....

1. First we have the rush to purchase the new shiny thing when anyone with a few forum visits under their belt knows, something like this happens at every launch. Ya wanna be the first, be prepared to bleed a bit.
2, Then there's the knee-jerk complaint about overpriced junk from purchasers who made the decision to buy it in the first place, knowing the above and ignoring the fact that nvidia's top consumer oriented card has averaged $700, when adjusted for inflation, for 20 years now.
3. The fanboi pouncing that occurs in response to every negative article. So called CPU "vulnerabilities" published by obscure testing labs are used to pounce on the other brand and claim superiority despite the fact that no PC user has every suffered any negative impact from the vulnerability ... ever.
4. Next will come the face saving argument that usually follows ... tho this one is going to be tough. The driver patch for the 6 pin 480 was necessary and the fix decreased performance. This patch has apparently solved the problem, but it significantly ***increased performance*** . Hard to argue a downside when there's no apparent negative impact / performance hit,
5. That doesn't mean increased performance isn't there ..... if this cap thing is real, in the sense that it is "potentilally" performance limiting, we will likely see revised designs ... just like we always do. This gen, we say very small manual adjustment on the power limiter. Will new cap designs allow extra performance. ? Was the current design a "price target" thing whereby component selection was guided by a goal to stay within the 20 year average historical price target ? Will we see more robust designs in premier designs like the Lightning and Matrix series or will they also appear in the normal consumer space ?

thesmokingmanIf the component choice wasn't the issue, I wonder why so many AIBs have said so?

When 1/3 of the heat sink missed the GPU .... EVGAs response was "we designed it that way intentionally". ... yet they soon had a new design out that corrected it. Corporate damage control in high gear.

thesmokingmanClearly they worked their magic on the drivers to reduce the problems with whatever cap layout. That was the whole point of pushing this driver out. However it doesn't change the fact that this release is buggered with hardware issues. Driver band-aid check.

Almost every new generation release is buggered w/ hardware and driver issues. Remember the 6 pin 480 ? There was an immediate patch, the result of which decreased performance. Perfectly understandable for peeps to be disappointed not getting the performance they thought they were getting. After that, all we saw pretty much were 8 pin cards.

Is that what happened here ? Nope, the updated drive increased performance... substantially ... so what's to complain about ? Buggered with hardware issues ? Can you name them ?

I have no doubt that more issues will arise, they always do with 1st stepping components. Some vendors historically have more than others. Those who wait for them to be discovered and addressed get to skip the Buyers Remorse phase.

The one that has surfaced so far appears to have been addresses.

EarthDog..but if component choice IS the issue, why are users reporting a fix with drivers? Some may just be teetering on the edge of stability.

It can be both.... :)

Everything is relative to the purchase price of the card.
The ones paid over a 1000 Euros they have different expectations and such a temporarily patch, this will not be accepted.

John NaylorEven at a virtual 2 cents, Jay is grossly overcharging. How can ya put any faith a guy who drills holes thru a MpBo to mount a cooler, cutting thru curcuit traces destroying and destroying a $400 board, ? He's the Tucker Carlson of the Tech industry; Carlson just had a libel / slander case dismissed because judge said basically that Carlon is so out there, no reasonable person would belive anything he says.

He is a comedian, not a tech expert. His tech knowledge is no better than the average tech enthusiast on the web.

thesmokingmanClearly they worked their magic on the drivers to reduce the problems with whatever cap layout. That was the whole point of pushing this driver out. However it doesn't change the fact that this release is buggered with hardware issues. Driver band-aid check.

Weird how that works, ehh?

Everything is relative to the purchase price of the card.
The ones paid over a 1000 Euros they have different expectations and such a temporarily patch, this will not be accepted.

...and the straw that broke the camel's back... can't stand this pompous ESL drivel.

EarthDog...and the straw that broke the camel's back... can't stand this pompous ESL drivel.

I am not a rich boy and I can hardly translate this as part of the solution.
From a Pie in the oven which you no one will offer you a piece, you better not worry if this going to be overcooked.

It looks like it was the boost tables they changed and its good to see this might be an easy fix.

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kiriakostEverything is relative to the purchase price of the card.
The ones paid over a 1000 Euros they have different expectations and such a temporarily patch, this will not be accepted.

a) Who came to their house and twisted their arm to pay a ridiculous price to be the 1st one on the block to have the new thing ?
b) How many issue free new generation releases have their been in recent years ? AMD has stability issues, black screen issues, inadequate power connectivity on the 480 ... some vendors have had a harder time than others ... EVGAs 9xx fail where heart sink missed GPU ... their 10xx fail where the left out the thermal pads ... their use of non overclokcing (non A) series GPUs in 2xxx.

This has less to do with price gouging and everything to do with turning a blind eye to reality. Their expectation should be that if they want to escape buyer's remorse, wait for prices to stabilize and wait for early release problems to be corrected.

dang, so no one in this forum actually have a 3080/3090 on hand that can test the new driver ?
Yeah Ampere stocks is definitely on the low side :D

AleksandarK

• Multiple G-SYNC Compatible monitors were removed from the G-SYNC Compatible list in the driver. [3130059]

Why?