birdieI like compiling and doing video encoding which both should become quite faster with this generation as well. I couldn't care less about normal resolution gaming because I don't have and I don't intend to buy a high refresh rate monitor and my 1660 Ti drives my old 1080p 74Hz monitor just fine.

quadiblocUnless the wider floating-point unit of these new chips also means they have AVX-512 support added, I think I'll stick with my 3900X for the time being. I don't see a point in getting rid of a perfectly good CPU just because one slightly better is out. But a few years down the road, no doubt AMD will have something new and exciting. I am happy for AMD achieving the top tier in single-thread performance. Of course, last time, they were already so close to Intel that it hardly mattered, so even at 19% IPC, it's still not as big a jump in some ways then the 3000 series was.
Supposedly, Intel has 10nm available, and it's fixed some initial issues with it. I wonder why they aren't trying harder. Maybe they will now, since they're in the right position to do so. Or will AMD have to outstrip them in sales volume first?

AnimalpakWill they finally supporting XMP from RAM's ? Because AMD was and is now still is a disaster on XMP memory modules.

xman2007No, no they're not. Yes AMD support a lower overall RAM speed than Intel CPU's but buying a suitable kit when building a PC should be the same as any other expensive purchase you make, you research what you are buying and don't just throw money at it cause "dats the fastest and mostest xpensivvvv/cheapest so it must be de besssssttt" :kookoo: XMP is an intel technology and whilst it is good and all, if you don't do some basic homework on what parts you're buying and if they're compatible, how is that down to AMD? for AMD there are recommended kits of DDR4 RAM and tested kits for each and every motherboard that you can buy, but as we see with all the "My Ryzen motherboard doesn't run my RAM at their rated speed" threads people don't do that, they buy a CPU and motherboard and any old RAM they feel like throwing in there without doing so much of a smidgeon of googling about compatibility and complain when it doesn't work right. The fact that AMD motherboards support XMP is a plus point, but building a PC is not the same as building a lego set and if you have little experience in doing so but just wanted to try after watching 1 YouTube video on "how easy" it is then you really should stump up the extra $50/$100 bucks to get someone or a company who has the required knowledge and experience to do it for you and then just use your consumer rights to return it and get it sorted instead of wondering why your Corsair LPX 3200 won't run at it's rated speed on your Ryzen build.

TheLostSwedeYou are aware XMP is an Intel specific standard, so why would it work well with AMD CPUs? The timings aren't going to be the same for two entirely different memory controller architectures. Yes, some board makers have made it sort of work, with some RAM, but that's it. XMP was never designed to work with AMD CPUs. It also takes all of two minutes to configure the RAM if you use the Ryzen DRAM calculator.

PumperNo they won't. Look at the slide showing 3950X vs. 5950X. Zen3 is only 5% faster at encoding and 9% at compiling:

TheLostSwedeCleaner slides below:
videocardz.com/newz/amd-announces-ryzen-5000-series-zen3

rvalenciaUnlike Intel and NVIDIA, AMD is just above the break-even. AMD needs to improve its profitability.

chstamosAll I've seen are AMD toxic fanboys attacking anyone and everyone that was not POSITIVELY ENTHUSED by the announcement. But what do I know. The fanboys know for a fact I'm just another intel shill for writing this. How dare anyone not be pissed with joy at the prospect of 300 dollars for the lowest end cpu, they're obviously shilling for intel or spoiled brats demanding free CPUs from amd.

ratirtThe graphs and stuff looks great but I'm still waiting for the reviews. If this turns out to be exactly how the graphs show, it will be a hell of performance bump for me. If my Mobo can pull it off, I'm going 12 core this year :)

SIGSEGVDo I have to wait for AM5 socket? :confused:
I think I am gonna upgrade my current CPU with 5950X. Besides, I also want to commemorate AM4 socket. :laugh:

HD64GAMD has cornered down Intel as hard as ever. Has the best CPUs in both vfm (Zen2) and absolute performance (Zen3). Absolute market dominance for desktop. The same for mobile and server is a matter of time now.

RandallFlaggHm, seems like the shoe might be on the other foot with AMD vs Intel.

Let me see if I can switch my arguments.

So, is it really worth it to spend an extra $100 on AMD for 1-2 fps? Intel is good enough and is a better price/performance ratio, nobody will notice those 2 fps.

How am I doing?

ratirtI'm ok with the prices. I think i will change my CPU and I don't worry about the cooler since I got my water already running.
I will still wait for the benchmarks and reviews. No need to rush the purchase. What AMD did with the new Ryzen is great and if Intel did something similar, we would have had a real competition.
Your move Intel, show us what you got and don't disappoint.

TheLostSwedeI guess you're not aware that all of that was fixed after about six months worth of UEFI and AGESA updates? Ignorance is bliss...

HD64GAMD has cornered down Intel as hard as ever. Has the best CPUs in both vfm (Zen2) and absolute performance (Zen3). Absolute market dominance for desktop. The same for mobile and server is a matter of time now.

RandallFlaggIt seems Intel may not have anything to compete directly with a 5900X, assuming those benchmarks are representative of overall performance.

wahdangungood, except this time amd also win in productivity

londisteRocket Lake, Q1 2021.
If the rumors are true (expecially the Willow Cove backport part), it actually might be a worthy upgrade for people who do not need 12 or 16 cores.

birdieTo add to my previous post: I hate when people choose companies - you should choose products and root for healthy competition and AMD now has perfectly shown that when competition falters, customers get punished hard. I've been eagerly waiting for the Ryzen 5000 series but now I'm hesitating whether to upgrade from my 3700X. A performance uplift is great but the cost of the upgrade is not palatable at all. There's no way I will be able to sell my 3700X for $330 I bought it for. At most I'll get $200 for it on the secondary market. Paying $250 to get 20% more performance? I don't know.

londisteRocket Lake, Q1 2021.
If the rumors are true (expecially the Willow Cove backport part), it actually might be a worthy upgrade for people who do not need 12 or 16 cores.

Darmok N JaladIt’s a shame they couldn’t hit the 5.0ghz barrier. You know the engineers probably wanted to get there in the worst way. I’m guessing these will behave like 3000 series, where they will reach max clocks better on their own boosting algorithm and there won’t be any overclocking. It’s not a bad showing by any means—the design changes and IPC uplift are something to be proud of, and the power consumption sounds like it’s going to be so much better. And all this on the same 7nm node. I know these aren’t reviews, but I’d be surprised if the benchmarks they posted couldn’t be reproduced. Just makes me wonder what GPU they were using. :)

dicktracyAll of a sudden, gaming matters again for AMD fans. LOL

HD64GAMD has cornered down Intel as hard as ever. Has the best CPUs in both vfm (Zen2) and absolute performance (Zen3). Absolute market dominance for desktop. The same for mobile and server is a matter of time now.

MysteoaIf benchmarking is not done on equal configuration/settings what is their purpose?
Ray Tracing will be normal when there are more new games with it than without. Currently, it's like PhysX, not many games have it and it wouldn't be fair comparison if you can't run it on AMD also.

JrRacinFanAll I know is im grabbing my popcorn and sitting it out and waiting to see if any XT versions of Zen 3 show their face.