fancuckerThis alongside the prospective 3070 Ti will be the primary competition for AMD. The Navi 21 XTX will fall roughly short of the 3080 and the 72CU/64CU variants will do battle with these two cards.

Xex360without reasonable prices

Shatun_BearIn W1zzard's benchmarking suite, I predict the 3070 will be 2-5% slower than the 2080 Ti on average. It's overpriced as 8GB memory is gimped, try playing DOOM Eternal with nightmare quality texture preset and see your FPS butchered.

DuxCroCan't wait for this card to come out so I'm not able to find it anywhere, and prices rise well above $500 because of that. Just like 3080. It was listed below €700 for cheapest models here in EU, and now the cheapest model is €800+. And still impossible to buy. :mad:

M2BI've played doom eternal on my GTX 1080 @ 4K and while the ultra nightmare texture pool size has a negative impact on performance, it does absolutely nothing to the quailty of the textures.
Texture quality isn't any different on ultra/high settings.
It just allocates more VRAM for texture streaming, and there is no practical benefit to it.
There are a ton of games with more environmental/texture detail than doom and run just fine on an 8GB card at 4K, not to mention the 3070 was never intended nor marketed as a 4K card to begin with.

Shatun_BearThat was Nvidia's scam - reveal what appear to be good prices, but have no stock so they're not taking a hit on their margins per unit sold...no stock causes pent up demand and apparent buying frenzy, which leads to more demand but still no stock.



My point was that 8GB is a limiting factor. Doom is a game built around last gen consoles, let's be honest. Within the next 12 months, because of the next gen of consoles, I am sure there will be games on PC that push graphics cards much harder, and look much better to boot. We saw with the UE5 demo that PS5 is capable of pushing 8K textures (by streaming assets in from SSD). To do similarly on PC we're looking at a brute force approach, which will require more than 8GB of memory to say the least.

M2BI've played doom eternal on my GTX 1080 @ 4K and while the ultra nightmare texture pool size has a negative impact on performance, it does absolutely nothing to the quailty of the textures.
Texture quality isn't any different on ultra/high settings.
It just allocates more VRAM for texture streaming, and there is no practical benefit to it.
There are a ton of games with more environmental/texture detail than doom and run just fine on an 8GB card at 4K, not to mention the 3070 was never intended nor marketed as a 4K card to begin with.

Shatun_BearMy point was that 8GB is a limiting factor. Doom is a game built around last gen consoles, let's be honest. Within the next 12 months, because of the next gen of consoles, I am sure there will be games on PC that push graphics cards much harder, and look much better to boot. We saw with the UE5 demo that PS5 is capable of pushing 8K textures (by streaming assets in from SSD). To do similarly on PC we're looking at a brute force approach, which will require more than 8GB of memory to say the least.

Xex360For 800$ it's not good at all, it's even worse than the 2070s (which was between 500-600$). Ampere's a disaster, very high MSRP, no availability so even higher prices, low vram.
Hopefully AMD will deliver a true performance uplift without reasonable prices.

PowerPCWhen the performance of this card leaked long ago, people who are gullible enough to believe anything Nvidia tells them, were still saying 3070 will be much faster than 2080 ti.

Here's an excerpt of something one of these "people" wrote to me over PM. Parts are redacted for obvious reasons:

"You f*****g dip***t delusional c**t. They said it's faster, PERIOD. Only a f**kt**d like yourself would make up stories in his head how it's just marketing. If you think it's BS then how the f**k do you know exactly the % of how faster it will be or not. Do you have magic globe of s**t ? C**ksucking f*g."

I only said it will probably be as fast or maybe just a few % faster than 2080 ti. Turns out it's even slower or trades blows, just like all the leaks and common sense would dictate.

Enough said on the brain damage Nvidia induces in some people....

PowerPCWhen the performance of this card leaked long ago, people who are gullible enough to believe anything Nvidia tells them, were still saying 3070 will be much faster than 2080 ti.

Here's an excerpt of something one of these "people" wrote to me over PM. Parts are redacted for obvious reasons:

"You f*****g dip***t delusional c**t. They said it's faster, PERIOD. Only a f**kt**d like yourself would make up stories in his head how it's just marketing. If you think it's BS then how the f**k do you know exactly the % of how faster it will be or not. Do you have magic globe of s**t ? C**ksucking f*g."

I only said it will probably be as fast or maybe just a few % faster than 2080 ti. Turns out it's even slower or trades blows, just like all the leaks and common sense would dictate.

Enough said on the brain damage Nvidia induces in some people....

TurmaniaIt is hard to talk about products that will not be available to purchase.

Shatun_BearIn W1zzard's benchmarking suite, I predict the 3070 will be 2-5% slower than the 2080 Ti on average. It's overpriced as 8GB memory is gimped, try playing DOOM Eternal with nightmare quality texture preset and see your FPS butchered.

harm9963With driver optimization and maturity , will get better results.

Shatun_BearIn W1zzard's benchmarking suite, I predict the 3070 will be 2-5% slower than the 2080 Ti on average. It's overpriced as 8GB memory is gimped, try playing DOOM Eternal with nightmare quality texture preset and see your FPS butchered.

EarthDogYou should see a couple of PM's from delusional AMD users I've received over the years... it's a two way street, fanboyism/lunacy. My ignore list is LONG with fanboys from both sides... makes for a better forum since the toxic fanboys aren't handled by the staff (see below). :p

EarthDogYou should see a couple of PM's from delusional AMD users I've received over the years... it's a two way street, fanboyism/lunacy. My ignore list is LONG with fanboys from both sides... makes for a better forum since the toxic fanboys aren't handled by the staff (see below). :p

PowerPCI'm not saying there aren't delusional people on both sides. But in this case it's very easy to see that Nvidia doesn't need to jump this high to make people buy, let's just be clear. Making a 3070 significantly faster than 2080 ti for $500 would make no business sense for them. Nvidia is a business, just like AMD. I just feel like Nvidia's marketing is often their biggest problem. Or the people who believe it.