Wednesday, November 4th 2020
NVIDIA Reportedly Working on GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Graphics Card with 20 GB GDDR6X VRAM
A leak from renowned (and usually on-point) leaker Kopite7kimi claims that NVIDIA has finally settled on new graphics cards to combat AMD's RX 6800 threat after all. After the company has been reported (and never confirmed) to be working on double-memory configurations for their RTX 3070 and RTX 3080 graphics cards (with 16 GB GDDR6 and 20 GB GDDR6X, respectively), the company is now reported to have settled for a 20 GB RTX 3080 Ti to face a (apparently; pending independent reviews) resurgent AMD.
The RTX 3080 Ti specs paint a card with the same CUDA core count as the RTX 3090, with 10496 FP32 cores over the same 320-bit memory bus as the RTX 3080. Kopite includes board and SKU numbers (PG133 SKU 15) along a new GPU codename: GA102-250. The performance differentiator against the RTX 3090 stands to be the memory amount, bus, and eventually core clockspeed; memory speed and board TGP are reported to mirror those of the RTX 3080, so some reduced clocks compared to that graphics card are expected. That amount of CUDA cores means NVIDIA is essentially divvying-up the same GA-102 die between its RTX 3090 (good luck finding one in stock) and the reported RTX 3080 Ti (so good luck finding one of those in stock as well, should the time come). It is unclear how pricing would work out for this SKU, but pricing comparable to that of the RX 6900 XT is the more sensible speculation. Take this report with the usual amount of NaCl.
Sources:
Kopite7kimi @ Twitter, via Videocardz
The RTX 3080 Ti specs paint a card with the same CUDA core count as the RTX 3090, with 10496 FP32 cores over the same 320-bit memory bus as the RTX 3080. Kopite includes board and SKU numbers (PG133 SKU 15) along a new GPU codename: GA102-250. The performance differentiator against the RTX 3090 stands to be the memory amount, bus, and eventually core clockspeed; memory speed and board TGP are reported to mirror those of the RTX 3080, so some reduced clocks compared to that graphics card are expected. That amount of CUDA cores means NVIDIA is essentially divvying-up the same GA-102 die between its RTX 3090 (good luck finding one in stock) and the reported RTX 3080 Ti (so good luck finding one of those in stock as well, should the time come). It is unclear how pricing would work out for this SKU, but pricing comparable to that of the RX 6900 XT is the more sensible speculation. Take this report with the usual amount of NaCl.
140 Comments on NVIDIA Reportedly Working on GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Graphics Card with 20 GB GDDR6X VRAM
So much relieved.
Previous Titan vs Ti pricing/performance was acceptable because of the pro-features Titan offered, the 3090 does not have these, a titan card is probably coming in the future.
So if they have a 3090 and a 3080Ti basically just going head to head….then the pricing becomes really odd, you just have 2 nearly identical cards for very different prices and like...within 2 - 3 months with no availability....I mean they just killing their own products this way.
Should just do a price drop on the 3090 but that would be admitting defeat/losing face so they rather put in a "new" SKU.
The other thing is, if the 3080 TI will perform on par with 3090, (or very close) what is that make of the 3090? I know why NV is releasing it but the question still remains. What will the price for this 3080Ti be. I'm 100% sure, it won't be below or equal to $1k. Price drop for the 3090 would have been the way to go but since NV is releasing 3080 TI (slightly different spec) is to make the card cheaper which means price drop for the 3090 is not an option. Otherwise NV would have done it. This decision, is based on (probably), NV would lose money since it costs more to make the 3090 than sell it for $1k. $500 difference in price is massive for a product that performs equally.
NVidia should stick to their game plan, release the interim products and accept they've stuffed this product line. They can focus on not underestimating competition, and getting back on track in 2022.
Arbitrary or not, the 3090 did not get this due to it not being considered a titan card.
Going from "nVidia is years ahead", "I doubt AMD would match 3070", "perhaps 20% slower than 3080" to "oh, THAT is why Huang stopped ripping us off".
Yes, AMD just kicked NV's lower bottom part, rolling out the fastest GPU on the market, with smile, superior power consumption and for $500 less.
As for "NV not surviving" it, it's a strawman.
Even if Ampere fiasco will be followed by 3 more fiascos, there will still be enough green fanboi to buy overpriced green crap (with hilarious reasoning attached).
But, lets for arguments say you're totally right and they actually "wipe the floor" product vs product, by basically offering what is at best a respectable price to performance benefit, with some extra placebo VRAM and a minor perf;watt advantage. Nvidia adjust prices, actually officially announces SKU's that fit the gaps, and life goes on with both happily selling GPU's to happy consumers. I can't even, you made my day with this one, priceless.
You know DF managed to artificially down 2080 performance in 3080 "preview" video?
Right, by not fitting textures in VRAM.
Welp:
Oh, and has twice VRAM.