Wednesday, June 16th 2021

AMD Socket AM5 Motherboards Arriving in 2022, Paves Way for Zen3 + 3DV Cache on AM4

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AMD Socket AM5 motherboards are set to arrive in Q2-2022, according to PJ, the editor of Uniko's Hardware. This would mean that the Zen 3 + 3D Vertical Cache chiplet AMD CEO Dr Lisa Su showed off in her Computex keynote, could very well be built in the Socket AM4 package, compatible with existing motherboards. The prototype Dr Su showed off appeared Socket AM4, too. AMD claims that the 3D Vertical Cache feature, when paired with a "Zen 3" chiplet, improves gaming performance by a significant 15 percent, helping AMD catch up with Intel's "Rocket Lake-S" processor at gaming. Elsewhere across the landscape, PJ predicts that the Z690 chipset, which goes with "Alder Lake-S" processors in the LGA1700 package, will arrive by Q4 2021, with cost-effective chipsets such as the B660 and H610 in Q1-2022.
Sources: PJ (Twitter), VideoCardz

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40 Comments on AMD Socket AM5 Motherboards Arriving in 2022, Paves Way for Zen3 + 3DV Cache on AM4

#26
Upgrayedd
stimpy88Well, I'll take something that is up to 15% faster than AMD's current best, and better than anything Intel has planned for the next couple of years, on my dead AM4 platform! ;-)

Also, DDR5 is going to be hot garbage for at least the next 2 years before it delivers tangible performance improvements over low latency, high speed DDR4.
I can't even buy a 3600 c14 kit.
Never understood the incremental upgrading. You're already on DDR4 and a 3900x? Why not just wait for AM5 if you're an AMD fan? I don't think DDR5 will have quite the performance similarities to DDR4 as DDR4 did to DDR3.
I don't think I'd buy something on the ass end of its iteration.
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#27
Makaveli
UpgrayeddI can't even buy a 3600 c14 kit.
Never understood the incremental upgrading. You're already on DDR4 and a 3900x? Why not just wait for AM5 if you're an AMD fan? I don't think DDR5 will have quite the performance similarities to DDR4 as DDR4 did to DDR3.
I don't think I'd buy something on the ass end of its iteration.
You don't buy at the beginning or at the tail end of a generation. However I make an exception for in place socket upgrades.

As for someone also on AM4 right now, I would go to a v-cache chip if they released it for AM4. That way I stay on the platform little longer and I can skip the first gen AM5/DDR5 stuff and jump in at a revision of the product that will be better than first gen. DDR5 most likely won't hit its sweet spot until 2 years after launch.
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#28
mechtech
hmmmmmm

So the question is to build on the latest/lastest AM4, or keep on waiting and build a new AM5 PC???

hmmmmmm
MakaveliYou don't buy at the beginning or at the tail end of a generation. However I make an exception for in place socket upgrades.
Ya, and I make exceptions for really good pricing too.......
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#29
Lionheart
"helping AMD catch up with Intel's "Rocket Lake-S" processor at gaming" lmao what? :kookoo:
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#30
Dave65
Helping AMD catch up to Rocket Lake?
I think you got that backwards:/ :shadedshu:
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#31
Jism
qcmadnessYou don't actually need a chipset to use with AM5 CPUs. Also true for AM4 CPUs.
Yes the AMD chips pretty much hold their own chipsets (SOCS litterally) but in order to use the rest you still need a board.
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#32
r.h.p
looks like a 3 year upgrade to am5 :)
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#33
Upgrayedd
MakaveliYou don't buy at the beginning or at the tail end of a generation. However I make an exception for in place socket upgrades.

As for someone also on AM4 right now, I would go to a v-cache chip if they released it for AM4. That way I stay on the platform little longer and I can skip the first gen AM5/DDR5 stuff and jump in at a revision of the product that will be better than first gen. DDR5 most likely won't hit its sweet spot until 2 years after launch.
I skipped DDR4 entirely. I'm still on DDR3. I'm getting DDR5 asap haha
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#34
Xajel
TomgangOh that is sweet news if Zen 3+ is on AM4. That will actually later on give me an upgrade from current 5600X and 5950X later down the road, if that is happening off cause,
This is like 95% true,

I have a feeling also that Zen4 might have an AM4 version too (of course with DDR4), after all it's just the same CPU die with different IO die.
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#35
Makaveli
XajelThis is like 95% true,

I have a feeling also that Zen4 might have an AM4 version too (of course with DDR4), after all it's just the same CPU die with different IO die.
You wont see Zen 4 on AM4, that will prevent people from upgrading. if we are lucky we will see v-cache chip on AM4.
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#36
stimpy88
UpgrayeddI skipped DDR4 entirely. I'm still on DDR3. I'm getting DDR5 asap haha
Erm, ok... You do know that DDR5 is slower and more expensive than DDR4 right now, and probably for at least the next year?
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#37
Makaveli
stimpy88Erm, ok... You do know that DDR5 is slower and more expensive than DDR4 right now, and probably for at least the next year?
Agreed.

Sitting on a DDR3 system this long has him in a weird place right now. We are at the tail end of DDR4 and DDR5 won't be worth touching for at least 2 years.
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#38
Midland Dog
LuminescentEveryone is entitled to make a living, that's why you question everything on the internet now, remember tomshardware and JUST BUY IT.
Now to the topic, it's great these cpu's get faster and faster but lately intensive work have been moved to gpu, it's great and bad at the same time because it's much faster but buggier, still, cpu gets less and less important for some important productivity apps
amd wins in a portion of games, pretty much everything dos to dx8/9 intel still wins
MakaveliAgreed.

Sitting on a DDR3 system this long has him in a weird place right now. We are at the tail end of DDR4 and DDR5 won't be worth touching for at least 2 years.
ddr3 isnt even that bad, especially on haswell, i can run a jedec 1333 kit at 2400 10-12-11 1t
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#39
Upgrayedd
stimpy88Erm, ok... You do know that DDR5 is slower and more expensive than DDR4 right now, and probably for at least the next year?
It'll be fine when the platforms come out. DDR5 will be faster than DDR4. Just don't get the JEDEC kits and it's fine.
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