Thursday, August 26th 2021
NVIDIA Readying GeForce RTX 3090 SUPER, A Fully Unlocked GA102 with 400W Power?
NVIDIA is readying the GeForce RTX 3090 SUPER, the first "SUPER" series model from the RTX 30-series, following a recent round of "Ti" refreshes for its product stack. According to kopite7kimi and Greymon55, who each have a high strike-rate with NVIDIA rumors, the RTX 3090 SUPER could finally max-out the 8 nm "GA102" silicon on which nearly all high-end models from this NVIDIA GeForce generation are based. A fully unlocked GA102 comes with 10,752 CUDA cores, 336 Tensor cores, 84 RT cores, 336 TMUs, and 112 ROPs. The RTX 3090 stops short of maxing this out, with its 10,496 CUDA cores.
NVIDIA's strategy with the alleged RTX 3090 SUPER will be to not only max out the GA102 silicon, with its 10,752 CUDA cores, but also equip it with the fastest possible GDDR6X memory variant, which ticks at 21 Gbps data-rate, compared to 19.5 Gbps on the RTX 3090, and 19 Gbps on the RTX 3080 and RTX 3080 Ti. At this speed, across the chip's 384-bit wide memory bus, the RTX 3090 SUPER will enjoy 1 TB/s of memory bandwidth. Besides more CUDA cores, it's possible that the GPU Boost frequency could be increased. All this comes at a cost, though, with Greymon55 predicting a total graphics power (TGP) of at least 400 W, compared to 350 W of the RTX 3090. A product launch is expected within 2021.
Sources:
Greymon55 (Twitter), kopite7kimi (Twitter), WCCFTech
NVIDIA's strategy with the alleged RTX 3090 SUPER will be to not only max out the GA102 silicon, with its 10,752 CUDA cores, but also equip it with the fastest possible GDDR6X memory variant, which ticks at 21 Gbps data-rate, compared to 19.5 Gbps on the RTX 3090, and 19 Gbps on the RTX 3080 and RTX 3080 Ti. At this speed, across the chip's 384-bit wide memory bus, the RTX 3090 SUPER will enjoy 1 TB/s of memory bandwidth. Besides more CUDA cores, it's possible that the GPU Boost frequency could be increased. All this comes at a cost, though, with Greymon55 predicting a total graphics power (TGP) of at least 400 W, compared to 350 W of the RTX 3090. A product launch is expected within 2021.
99 Comments on NVIDIA Readying GeForce RTX 3090 SUPER, A Fully Unlocked GA102 with 400W Power?
Besides, TPU benchmark data shows the 3080 Ti performs 99.5% of the 3090 already, and having one I can tell you that unless you have a model that can draw well above 600W, you can't quantify any meaningful performance increase beyond closing the gap between the shipped and the rated memory speed with one.
The honest truth that may make many NVIDIA fans sad is that this eventual card would never achieve what it would set out to do: make Ampere retain the crown in any titles where the 6900 XT beats the 3090, in those, AMD's performance advantage overcomes anything that's left in any GA102 type at any clock speed, feasible for 24/7 usage or not.
And still need some exotic cooling for sure pushing that realm of TDP. I've gotta waterblock from Optimus. Couldn't imagine without it!!
Note DDR6X is now cheaper than DDR6
3060 6GB/12GB $269/$319
3060 TI 8GB DDR6X 17GB/s 256bit $379
3070 Super 8GB DDR6X 17GB/s 256 bit $459
3070 Ti GA102 10GB $599 ~ 7000 cuda cores (replaces 3080 bit lower performance)
3080 TI 12GB $799
3090 24GB $1299
3090 Super 24GB $1599
Anyway, I think they need to start thinking outside of the box. These cards just keep on getting bigger and bigger and requiring more and more power. With this noted pattern, in the future we might not be gaming on desktops anymore the way we are now.They don't need the in-between "Ti" crap. Just get rid of all Ti's, increase the price of the 3090's by 1.5 times, and lower the price accordingly for all of the cards below the 3090.
Nvidia: "Hold my beer"
Or become victim of the hundreds of scalpers becoming rich on the people really wanting to pay 1+ million zero's % too much on the new card
At least this will be used for gaming as the hashrate/$ ratio is shit!:kookoo:
Whatever done with this forum. Got too many games to play on my 3090/5950x