Wednesday, January 5th 2022
XMG Announces NEO 15 Gaming Laptop & Oasis External Liquid Cooling System
Following Intel's Alder Lake H launch, XMG presents the XMG NEO 15 (E22), a new generation of gaming laptops designed for mobile high performance. However, the 15.6" device kicks off with more than just an update to Intel's Core i7-12700H and graphics cards up to the brand new GeForce RTX 3080 Ti.Along with the laptop, XMG offers an optional external liquid cooling system that significantly expands the cooling resources and promises quieter and ultimately faster operation at lower temperatures-throwing aside the physical limitations of conventional laptop cooling systems.
In XMG's laptop portfolio, the NEO model series rounds off the product range as a mobile high-end device. With Intel's Core i7-12700H, the NEO 15 from the new E22 generation (Early 2022) integrates one of the fastest representatives of Intel's latest 12th Core generation with hybrid design. Based on the big-little principle of Alder Lake-H, the CPU combines six performance and eight efficiency cores -making it one of the first mobile processors with a total of 14 cores.On the graphics card side, XMG focuses on NVIDIA's ray tracing-capable RTX3000 chips.
In addition to the familiar RTX 3060, the new NEO 15 also integrates two updated laptop GPUs-RTX 3070 Ti and 3080 Ti from the premium performance segment.In doing so, the laptop remains true to the NEO product range principle of offering the maximum specification level of each graphics card. In the case of the RTX 3080 Ti with 16 GB GDDR6 VRAM, this means that the graphics card now runs with a TGP of up to 175 watts (RTX 3070 Ti: up to 150 watts). By using liquid metal on the CPU and a further improved cooling system, XMG ensures that the components can operate at permanently high performance and to the maximum of their power and TGP limits. Consequently, the optimized fans have 71 instead of 67 fins.
While the XMG NEO laptops were among the first models with a 165 Hz WQHD display at the end of 2020, the new generation offers even more: With a resolution of 2,560 x 1,440 pixels, its IPS panelruns at an even speedier refresh rate of 240 Hz. The brightness is 350 nits and the display covers more than 95 per cent of the sRGB color space.
Compact partial aluminium chassis and high-performance power supply
Despite its performance features and a 93 Wh battery, the 360.2 x 243.5 x 26.6 millimeter NEO 15 remains comparatively light and mobile at 2.2 kilograms. A display lid and a palm rest made of aluminium contribute to the weight saving. Compared to the 2021 generation, XMG offers the laptop with a stronger 280 watt power supply.
All M.2 SSDs with PCI Express 4.0 and up to 64 GB DDR5-4800
The platform change to Alder Lake-H and a motherboard equipped with an H670 Express chipset paves the way for faster memory and storage options. Thus, the laptop now accommodates two M.2 SSDs each with a four lane PCIe 4.0 connection and offers two SO-DIMM slots for a maximum of 64 GB DDR5 RAM with a clock frequency of 4800 MHz.
Connectivity and input devices
A Thunderbolt 4 port with two 4K-capable DisplayPort streams and an HDMI 2.1 output allow the connection of up to three external monitors. The HDMI output is linked to the dedicated NVIDIA graphics card, while the USB-C is linked to the integrated Intel Xe graphics unit. In addition, there is 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet, Wi-Fi 6, three USB-A 3.2 ports, a full-size SD card reader and separate audio jacks for headphones and microphone. Besides a Microsoft Precision-compliant touchpad, the XMG NEO 15 continues to offer the already familiar optomechanical keyboard with tactile silent switches, programmable RGB per-key illumination, anti-ghosting and N-key rollover. The increased diameter integrated speakers now deliver a more powerful sound.
XMG OASIS: External all-in-one liquidcooling for the XMG NEO 15 (E22)
With the OASIS, XMG offers enthusiasts extensive cooling potential. The additional cooling resources are intended to make the laptops run significantly quieter, cooler and ultimately faster. At the market launch, XMG is initially only offering the external liquid cooling as an add-on for the new NEO 15 (E22), but plans to expand the option to other models in the future via a standardized connection. This approach is based on the principle that compatible laptops are prepared for the use with OASIS, but its use is an enhancement and not a prerequisite for the operation of the mobile device.
In a compact 186 x 203 x 75 millimetre chassis, XMG utilisesthe familiar AIO concept by combining a 120 mm radiator with fan, pump and liquidreservoir. This means that the OASIS can also be carried in a backpack if necessary, so that the additional cooling power isn't limited to a single location. The weight is correspondingly low: Including the cooling liquid, the cooling system weighs 1.39 kilograms,with a dry weight of1.18kilograms. To completely fill the entire system (coolingunitand laptop), about 230 millilitres of cooling liquid isrequired. The chassis itself comes in an elegant stealth design, with software-adjustable RGB lighting elements to add some colour if desired.
Modular concept, easy set-up
Before setting up, the external AIO cooling must first be filled with cooling liquid (part of the supplied accessories) via a funnel. This also allows refilling at a later time. A self-locking quick-release connector with hoses for the inlet and outlet quickly connects the liquid cooling system to the laptop -and disconnects just as easily if the NEO 15 is to be taken along on its own.
The liquid cooling system is driven by the laptop power supply, with communication between the two devices taken care of via Bluetooth-paired through the XMG Control Center. In this way, all USB ports on the laptop remain free. Afterwards, not only is intelligent, temperature-dependent control of the fan and pump speed available: as soon as the XMG NEO 15 registers the additional resources of the external unit, the fans in the laptop automatically switch to a flat fan curve profile which has been configured specifically for this setup and quiet operation even under full load. The resulting significant increase in cooling performance opens up a lot of headroom for individual system tuning.
What does the XMG OASIS achieve?
XMG demonstrates the performance potential of the XMG OASIS with its own series of measurements. The current prototype of the external liquid cooling was operated on the pre-production model of an XMG NEO 15 (E22) with Core i7-12700H and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti in the overboost performance profile. The result: By using the XMG OASIS, the temperatures of the processor and graphics card drop by around 20°C, while at the same time the laptop's fans only operate at up to 50 percent of their maximum speed. Even under very demanding gaming or rendering loads, the laptop's operating noise level does not exceed 38 dB(A) (own measurement from a distance of 25 centimeters). The temperature reduction of course also has a positive effect on the laptop's performance -however, XMG will only be able to provide further benchmarks after Intel's embargo on the 12th generation Core processors expires.
System tuning with the XMG Control Center
XMG gives its customers the possibility to get the maximum out of the CPU and GPU in the NEO 15 with the Control Center: Here, for example, the TGP of the RTX 3080 Ti can be set to a fixed 175 watts (without Dynamic Boost)or the power limit of the CPU (PL1) can be raised to 115 watts to achieve boost values far beyond the standard 45 watts.On the other hand, those who attach particular importance to the quietest possible operation are also offered suitable setting options in the software: Features such as CPU undervolting, the adjustment of CPU power limits, to activate NVIDIA Whisper Mode from within the software and the creation of individual fan curve profiles allow every user to define their personal optimal balance between high performance and low noise emissions.
Pricing and availability
For an XMG NEO 15 (E22) with Intel's Core i7-12700H, an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti, 16 GB DDR5-4800, a 500 GB NVMe SSD and a WQHD IPS display with 240 Hz, XMG targets a retail price of around € 2,500 (including 19% VAT). The price for the XMG OASIS as an optional accessory will not exceed € 200.
Both the laptop and the external liquid cooling system are available for pre-order from the end of January with shipping expected from mid-February.
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In XMG's laptop portfolio, the NEO model series rounds off the product range as a mobile high-end device. With Intel's Core i7-12700H, the NEO 15 from the new E22 generation (Early 2022) integrates one of the fastest representatives of Intel's latest 12th Core generation with hybrid design. Based on the big-little principle of Alder Lake-H, the CPU combines six performance and eight efficiency cores -making it one of the first mobile processors with a total of 14 cores.On the graphics card side, XMG focuses on NVIDIA's ray tracing-capable RTX3000 chips.
While the XMG NEO laptops were among the first models with a 165 Hz WQHD display at the end of 2020, the new generation offers even more: With a resolution of 2,560 x 1,440 pixels, its IPS panelruns at an even speedier refresh rate of 240 Hz. The brightness is 350 nits and the display covers more than 95 per cent of the sRGB color space.
Compact partial aluminium chassis and high-performance power supply
Despite its performance features and a 93 Wh battery, the 360.2 x 243.5 x 26.6 millimeter NEO 15 remains comparatively light and mobile at 2.2 kilograms. A display lid and a palm rest made of aluminium contribute to the weight saving. Compared to the 2021 generation, XMG offers the laptop with a stronger 280 watt power supply.
All M.2 SSDs with PCI Express 4.0 and up to 64 GB DDR5-4800
The platform change to Alder Lake-H and a motherboard equipped with an H670 Express chipset paves the way for faster memory and storage options. Thus, the laptop now accommodates two M.2 SSDs each with a four lane PCIe 4.0 connection and offers two SO-DIMM slots for a maximum of 64 GB DDR5 RAM with a clock frequency of 4800 MHz.
Connectivity and input devices
A Thunderbolt 4 port with two 4K-capable DisplayPort streams and an HDMI 2.1 output allow the connection of up to three external monitors. The HDMI output is linked to the dedicated NVIDIA graphics card, while the USB-C is linked to the integrated Intel Xe graphics unit. In addition, there is 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet, Wi-Fi 6, three USB-A 3.2 ports, a full-size SD card reader and separate audio jacks for headphones and microphone. Besides a Microsoft Precision-compliant touchpad, the XMG NEO 15 continues to offer the already familiar optomechanical keyboard with tactile silent switches, programmable RGB per-key illumination, anti-ghosting and N-key rollover. The increased diameter integrated speakers now deliver a more powerful sound.
XMG OASIS: External all-in-one liquidcooling for the XMG NEO 15 (E22)
With the OASIS, XMG offers enthusiasts extensive cooling potential. The additional cooling resources are intended to make the laptops run significantly quieter, cooler and ultimately faster. At the market launch, XMG is initially only offering the external liquid cooling as an add-on for the new NEO 15 (E22), but plans to expand the option to other models in the future via a standardized connection. This approach is based on the principle that compatible laptops are prepared for the use with OASIS, but its use is an enhancement and not a prerequisite for the operation of the mobile device.
In a compact 186 x 203 x 75 millimetre chassis, XMG utilisesthe familiar AIO concept by combining a 120 mm radiator with fan, pump and liquidreservoir. This means that the OASIS can also be carried in a backpack if necessary, so that the additional cooling power isn't limited to a single location. The weight is correspondingly low: Including the cooling liquid, the cooling system weighs 1.39 kilograms,with a dry weight of1.18kilograms. To completely fill the entire system (coolingunitand laptop), about 230 millilitres of cooling liquid isrequired. The chassis itself comes in an elegant stealth design, with software-adjustable RGB lighting elements to add some colour if desired.
Modular concept, easy set-up
Before setting up, the external AIO cooling must first be filled with cooling liquid (part of the supplied accessories) via a funnel. This also allows refilling at a later time. A self-locking quick-release connector with hoses for the inlet and outlet quickly connects the liquid cooling system to the laptop -and disconnects just as easily if the NEO 15 is to be taken along on its own.
The liquid cooling system is driven by the laptop power supply, with communication between the two devices taken care of via Bluetooth-paired through the XMG Control Center. In this way, all USB ports on the laptop remain free. Afterwards, not only is intelligent, temperature-dependent control of the fan and pump speed available: as soon as the XMG NEO 15 registers the additional resources of the external unit, the fans in the laptop automatically switch to a flat fan curve profile which has been configured specifically for this setup and quiet operation even under full load. The resulting significant increase in cooling performance opens up a lot of headroom for individual system tuning.
What does the XMG OASIS achieve?
XMG demonstrates the performance potential of the XMG OASIS with its own series of measurements. The current prototype of the external liquid cooling was operated on the pre-production model of an XMG NEO 15 (E22) with Core i7-12700H and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti in the overboost performance profile. The result: By using the XMG OASIS, the temperatures of the processor and graphics card drop by around 20°C, while at the same time the laptop's fans only operate at up to 50 percent of their maximum speed. Even under very demanding gaming or rendering loads, the laptop's operating noise level does not exceed 38 dB(A) (own measurement from a distance of 25 centimeters). The temperature reduction of course also has a positive effect on the laptop's performance -however, XMG will only be able to provide further benchmarks after Intel's embargo on the 12th generation Core processors expires.
System tuning with the XMG Control Center
XMG gives its customers the possibility to get the maximum out of the CPU and GPU in the NEO 15 with the Control Center: Here, for example, the TGP of the RTX 3080 Ti can be set to a fixed 175 watts (without Dynamic Boost)or the power limit of the CPU (PL1) can be raised to 115 watts to achieve boost values far beyond the standard 45 watts.On the other hand, those who attach particular importance to the quietest possible operation are also offered suitable setting options in the software: Features such as CPU undervolting, the adjustment of CPU power limits, to activate NVIDIA Whisper Mode from within the software and the creation of individual fan curve profiles allow every user to define their personal optimal balance between high performance and low noise emissions.
Pricing and availability
For an XMG NEO 15 (E22) with Intel's Core i7-12700H, an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti, 16 GB DDR5-4800, a 500 GB NVMe SSD and a WQHD IPS display with 240 Hz, XMG targets a retail price of around € 2,500 (including 19% VAT). The price for the XMG OASIS as an optional accessory will not exceed € 200.
Both the laptop and the external liquid cooling system are available for pre-order from the end of January with shipping expected from mid-February.
8 Comments on XMG Announces NEO 15 Gaming Laptop & Oasis External Liquid Cooling System
It is trying to fix symptoms of a problem that is better solved other ways though; Today's laptops as "portable powerhouses" are oxymorons. Sure you can make a laptop that requires 300W of power and can (barely) cool a 5900HX and 3080Ti but they're not portable when using those components to their full, and those components are utterly wasted when running on battery power or trying to run quietly.
Performance is weak when travelling light and running on batteries but your portable PC is still a large unwieldy 2.2KG block of plastic that is easily 2-3x the volume and weight of an actual ultraportable.
When plugged in you get the performance you'd expect but you're still paying an insane premium and limited by cooling compared to a desktop. The 5900HX is great, but it's only 8 cores not 16, and the mobile 3080Ti is still massively downclocked because it caps out at just 175W compared to the 350W that a desktop variant can both draw with ease and cool with ease. The keyboard is cramped, short-travel, and membrane action. The screen is probably only 15"-17" and it's way too low on the desk. I have no idea on pricing of the top-spec 12800H+3080Ti option here but I suspect the laptop itself is way more expensive than an equivalent desktop and the external watercooling dock is an additional, non-trivial expense. To use this laptop to its fullest in two or three frequent locations, you need to buy two or three cooling docks.
Why not just get a gaming desktop and a competent ultraportable powered by a 5900HX? That has pretty amazing performance on batteries, can be easily cooled in a 35W envelope, and the IGP will do casual gaming, on batteries, for a sensible duration. If you want to game more sociably in the living room with family or friends, you can always stream from the gaming desktop over the LAN if the ultraportable isn't up to the job.
So yeah, I'm sure there's a market for these but I can't help but look at that demographic and think that they're shortchanging themselves not just financially, but also in terms of portability as a travelling device and in terms of experience as a desktop device.
That laptop was ahead of its time and this was 2008. Tech blew away back then, now it's seems everyone is following market trends.
I will need to do some digging. Those laptops never did sell very well if I remember correctly, hence why they stopped making them.
:EDIT 1:
Well, here's one
::EDIT 2::
as far as i can see it was Asus that came out with a watercooled laptop first (ROG GX700VO) in 2016, then GX800VH the following year then killed the product line altogether.
No doubt the laptop might sell a few but if the bought their P703 11.6" gaming laptops back - i dare say that Schenker will sell more of those than the big bulky Liquid cooled laptops.
In addition, I don't think the water cooling solution is going to be efficient. The heat pipe that connects to the water cooler sits on top of other heat pipes. That 1 single thin heat pipe may not be able to transfer heat away from the source fast enough. So the limitation is at the contact point.