Thursday, June 2nd 2022

AMD Readies Radeon RX 6700 (non-XT)? Sapphire Custom Design Card Suggests so

AMD is likely preparing to launch a new mid-range graphics card SKU positioned between the Radeon RX 6650 XT and the RX 6700 XT, the new RX 6700 (non-XT). It doesn't seem like the RX 6700 is an OEM-exclusive designed to get rid of silicon. Pictures surfaced of a Sapphire branded custom-design card, complete with box-art designed to woo customers in stores. It also doesn't appear to be a China-exclusive SKU, since Sapphire tends to put Chinese-language branding on its box-art, which is missing here.

The RX 6700 is configured with 2,304 stream processors across 36 RDNA2 compute units, out of the 40 physically present on the "Navi 22" silicon. The memory is an interesting piece of specs, with the RX 6700 coming with 10 GB standard—presumably over a 160-bit wide GDDR6 memory bus. This means five 16 Gbit (2 GB) GDDR6 memory chips. The engine clocks are reportedly 2330 MHz game clock, and 2495 MHz boost; and 16 Gbps memory speed. The cards' board-design is standard Sapphire fare, with nothing that stands out from the current RX 6700 XT Pulse and base-model custom cards from the company. One interesting thing to point out, though, is a single 8-pin connector on the base-model custom card (225 W maximum power capability including the PCIe slot), which should put the typical board power around 200 W. The cards are reportedly launching in Europe on June 9, priced around 569€ including taxes.
Sources: Cowcotland, VideoCardz
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53 Comments on AMD Readies Radeon RX 6700 (non-XT)? Sapphire Custom Design Card Suggests so

#1
Quicks
A bit late to the game, when we are expecting new tech to release soon. Basically overpriced junk on release. If it was released early last year at 400$ sure maybe, not now.
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#2
watzupken
This product is too little and too late in my opinion. It’s taken AMD a very long time to finally decide to prepare a lower end version with Navi 23 chips that don’t meet the requirements for a 6700 XT, and would have been a good competitor to the RTX 3060 Ti. Though I wonder how much of a performance hit will it suffer due to the narrower memory bus. I would have preferred AMD to just cut the CUs and leave the memory bandwidth as is, but they just have to gimp almost every aspect of the card just to create a lower end SKU.
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#3
wolf
Better Than Native
QuicksA bit late to the game,
watzupkenThis product is too little and too late in my opinion
My thoughts exactly. This product is about a year too late, but I suppose it would have immediately been overpriced then too, so to release now... why even bother.
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#4
Daven
watzupkenThis product is too little and too late in my opinion. It’s taken AMD a very long time to finally decide to prepare a lower end version with Navi 23 chips that don’t meet the requirements for a 6700 XT, and would have been a good competitor to the RTX 3060 Ti. Though I wonder how much of a performance hit will it suffer due to the narrower memory bus. I would have preferred AMD to just cut the CUs and leave the memory bandwidth as is, but they just have to gimp almost every aspect of the card just to create a lower end SKU.
Too little too late for what?
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#5
Sithaer
I wouldn't mind this, years ago I did plan to buy a 5700 or a 2060/Super but I was too late and the prices went up as we know.

I might upgrade to a more recent/new gen card maybe late this year around november or so.
Currently I'm looking at RX 6600 XT/6650 XT-RTX 3060 Ti level of performance jump at least from my GTX 1070 so this could be an option if I can find it for a good price and if the new gen cards don't fall into my budget range/interest. 'Power draw is also right where I prefer it at max, single 8 pin 225W'

Tho I can already find some 6700 XT-s and 3060 Ti-s on our second hand market for about the same price with 2-3 years warranty so idk I hope prices wont go up again by the time I want to/can buy a new GPU.:oops:
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#6
ZetZet
QuicksA bit late to the game, when we are expecting new tech to release soon. Basically overpriced junk on release. If it was released early last year at 400$ sure maybe, not now.
Both AMD and Nvidia are keeping quiet about next-gen which makes me feel like we will only see top tier GPUs from them late this year, so maybe next spring we will start seeing lower end tiers. That's almost a year of sales for this. As long as it's properly priced it will be selling quite a bit.
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#7
Quicks
ZetZetBoth AMD and Nvidia are keeping quiet about next-gen which makes me feel like we will only see top tier GPUs from them late this year, so maybe next spring we will start seeing lower end tiers. That's almost a year of sales for this. As long as it's properly priced it will be selling quite a bit.
Nvidia rumours say top tier cards will be released first. AMD rumours was that they will first release mid tier 7700 first.
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#8
ZetZet
QuicksNvidia rumours say top tier cards will be released first. AMD rumours was that they will first release mid tier 7700 first.
Would be very strange don't you think? Basically conceding all the marketing to Nvidia. But even if they do release 7700 it's not going to compete with last gen RX 6700 XT, those will become much cheaper and still be relevant.
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#9
TechLurker
wolfMy thoughts exactly. This product is about a year too late, but I suppose it would have immediately been overpriced then too, so to release now... why even bother.
Same reason NVIDIA releases extra GPUs that also don't always make sense; to fill in the gaps and offer more options. Not everyone is going to buy into the next gen GPUs off the bat. Moreso if AMD's are truly expected to be MCM and may require additional teething and some FineWine work.
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#10
Pumper
Most likely we won't see any low/mid end RDNA3 and 4000 GPUs so both AMD and nvidia will keep the outdated chips to keep the "budget" options available.
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#11
DeathtoGnomes
With this card its obvious its the last of binned chips. Bottom of the barrel.
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#12
HD64G
If they kept the chips binned as not as efficient for the 6700XT clocks and release it with sensible price
DeathtoGnomesWith this card its obvious its the last of binned chips. Bottom of the barrel.
5/6th of the 6750XT in all the hw parts results in that being tied to 2080 performance at 1440P. Not bad if the price is correct me thinks.
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#13
ModEl4
DOA, let's suppose that RX 6700 is -9.9% vs RX 6700XT in performance and that in the next 4 weeks (early July) you can find an entry 3060Ti model at $449 (12.5% higher than MSRP) and that $5 is an acceptable cost of 1GB GDDR6 for the consumer, then we would have $409 for 3060Ti without memory and the other GPUs based on QHD performance difference should have been as following:


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#14
TheinsanegamerN
ZetZetWould be very strange don't you think? Basically conceding all the marketing to Nvidia. But even if they do release 7700 it's not going to compete with last gen RX 6700 XT, those will become much cheaper and still be relevant.
Remember polaris, where AMD did exactly what you just said? That was only 5 years ago.
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#15
oxrufiioxo
wolfMy thoughts exactly. This product is about a year too late, but I suppose it would have immediately been overpriced then too, so to release now... why even bother.
Idk midrange parts are probably 8-10 months out (high end rdna 3 is probably October/November) and a lot of buyers shopping at brick and mortar places like Bestbuy/Microcenter etc probably don't pay attention to release cycles.

Shit could go crazy with supply or next gen cards could carry high msrp nobody knows but these will probably be in sub $1000 budget systems and amd likely just wants to clear chips that were meant for oems
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#16
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
QuicksA bit late to the game, when we are expecting new tech to release soon. Basically overpriced junk on release. If it was released early last year at 400$ sure maybe, not now.
watzupkenThis product is too little and too late in my opinion. It’s taken AMD a very long time to finally decide to prepare a lower end version with Navi 23 chips that don’t meet the requirements for a 6700 XT, and would have been a good competitor to the RTX 3060 Ti. Though I wonder how much of a performance hit will it suffer due to the narrower memory bus. I would have preferred AMD to just cut the CUs and leave the memory bandwidth as is, but they just have to gimp almost every aspect of the card just to create a lower end SKU.
wolfMy thoughts exactly. This product is about a year too late, but I suppose it would have immediately been overpriced then too, so to release now... why even bother.
Whats funny is y'all gripe they release a gpu and yet the 6*50 series just came out. This is better than a 6500 or 6400 for a decent price considering the riduculousness of top tier being 1700- 2000

Give it a rest
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#17
wolf
Better Than Native
eidairaman1Give it a rest
Forgive me if I find that request a just little bit rich.
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#18
Nihilus
DavenToo little too late for what?
Exactly. This could be a could value and the new stuff might be a worse value. People just love giving their jaded opinions.
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#19
ratirt
First people whine there is no new cards to purchase.
Then they whine why releasing a new card so late.
Then they whine these are nowhere to be found when released.
Then they whine there's too many cards and they have problems deciding which one to purchase.
Then there is nothing being released and people whine about... well the first line.

New card new option which in my book is good. the 10GB is also not so bad. 8GB is a bit short I think or maybe just right for today
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#20
wolf
Better Than Native
NihilusPeople just love giving their jaded opinions.
Welcome to the internet basically. I'm not so bothered as long as people aren't being childish and toxic about it, because a 'jaded' opinion is one thing, but people can certainly also add layers of unnecessary toxicity and misplaced righteousness to those opinions.
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#21
watzupken
DavenToo little too late for what?
It is too little to generate any demand since demand for GPU is weakening. In fact, it is does not sound like an exciting product when you consider the price. Too late because there is no reason to release a “new” product at the same year when new GPUs are expected to launch.
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#22
ModEl4
ZetZetBut even if they do release 7700 it's not going to compete with last gen RX 6700 XT, those will become much cheaper and still be relevant.
Already AMD has some fantastic offers in Europe (much better than Nvidia's if you don't value raytracing performance advantage/Tensor Cores A.I./DLSS additional option/Nvidia's s/w suite etc) and they are already way below SRP if you consider VAT & €/$ exchange rate, for example the below 2 options:

PowerColor RX 6700XT Fighter at 499€
XFX RX 6600 SWFT 210 at 315€

And to tell you the truth I don't see these falling more than 10-12% even after navi33/AD104 launch because we will probably have gradual inflation again, so if someone don't mind "losing" (at worst case scenario imo) 60€ for the Power color 6700XT and 30€ for the XFX 6600, why not buy now?
Edit: scratch that, too pessimistic!
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#23
Valantar
@btarunr Note the absence of an "RX" in the name - this isn't the Radeon RX 6700 non-XT, but the Radeon 6700, non-RX, non-XT. If history is anything to go by, the lack of an RX prefix indicates an OEM-only part - as has been the case for previous "Radeon 570" cards and the like. Now, retail packaging for something like this is rather odd, but given that these are simple box renders that could just be a quick editing job of an existing design meant for PR purposes only. My guess would be that this is an OEM-only card where AMD has used their long-time partner Sapphire to make the OEM models more closely resemble consumer cards so that people buying the prebuilts these come in won't feel like they're getting second-rate crap cards. And going by Sapphire's design chops, they likely won't be either. Another possibility is that they're trying to bridge the gap between OEMs and SIs, making "retail-like" SKUs for a wider range of prebuilts.
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#24
Daven
watzupkenIt is too little to generate any demand since demand for GPU is weakening. In fact, it is does not sound like an exciting product when you consider the price. Too late because there is no reason to release a “new” product at the same year when new GPUs are expected to launch.
As you can see from the other comments, new GPUs released this year will most likely be upper tier. We are at least a year away from seeing a replacement for this card. An entire GPU series is no longer released on day one. Heck Nvidia just released another 1060 and a new 1630 card.

if we are gonna do this comments things on tech websites, we need to expand our understanding of business strategies, global market needs and manufacturing inter workings beyond our own singular computer needs.

Here is a fact to get us started. Semiconductor businesses like AMD will hold onto defective silicon until there is enough of a certain functional configuration to release a new SKU. This could come years after the first SKU is released. This new SKU could serve markets in places like Africa, Asia, etc. With reader lust for 24/7 news cycles, tech sites like techpowerup will report as many tech releases as possible even if that release doesn’t effect all of its readers.
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#25
Chrispy_
Nope. As others have said, this is too little, too late.

Searching Ebay in Europe for sold listings you can very easily pick up one of hundreds of used RTX 2080 for about €350, which also have better DXR performance, support DLSS, DLAA, and have a vastly better hardware encoder. Sold listings is history too, RTX 20-series cards are depreciating fast and current listings ending next weekend may not even cost that much.

All of the millions of GPUs that were MIA from the enthusiast gaming market because of mining are now starting to appear on the used market so setting MSRPs at COVID-era levels is going to backfire fast. Possibly before this thing even hits the shelves.
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