I do tend to think that 55" is just too f'ing big for the vast majority of use cases for anything but gaming... I daily drive an Aorus FV43U for both work (60 hour workweek, normal type spreadsheet, web page and DOS based applications) and for gaming after trying the same on a 48" C1- which was a complete disaster because of ABL alone.

Everybody's situation is different, but I do find that 43" at 4k is about the biggest display I can reasonably use without wallmounting. Maybe Samsung's Ark will be different because it's curved? We'll see.

In the meantime, I will say, for anybody looking for some versatility working from home with multiple computers on the same display, Gigabyte's built in KVM is an absolute godsend, so they get points from me on that alone (if this new 55" has it). Frankly, for ease of use alone, the FV43U (or any monitor) beats the crap out of any TV, I will say that for sure.

I'm surprised no-one has complied about the fact that it's using a VA-panel as yet...
Or about the 132 zone "FALD".
C'mon people, you're losing your touch.

TheLostSwedeI'm surprised no-one has complied about the fact that it's using a VA-panel as yet...
Or about the 132 zone "FALD".
C'mon people, you're losing your touch.

If I'm going LCD I actually prefer VA, but I can understand not all would.

if anyone seats inches in front of a 56'' monitor to game then i take my hat to you sir, that's one neck exercise

R0H1TI said gaming monitor sells better than a gaming TV, more specifically at a premium. The only premium TV segment which continues to enjoy fat margins is OLED, everywhere else it's a race to the bottom & the major reason Samsung completely abandoning that ship!
www.techradar.com/news/samsung-stops-making-lcd-screens-which-is-good-news-for-cheaper-qd-oled-tvs

You should read more than the headline.

"Samsung Display is finally making its long-expected move to stop producing LCD screens, switching at least some of its LCD factories to produce new QD-OLED screens, according to a new report from a South Korean business newspaper (via Digitimes),
However, the crucial bit of information is this change won't really affect Samsung Electronics' TV business, despite the fact that almost every TV it makes is LCD – with the exception of the QD-OLED Samsung S95B.
That's because Samsung Display (which makes just screens) and Samsung Electronics (which makes finished products with screens in that you can buy) are effectively run as separate businesses, even though they're part of the same company."

Not Too Long, Do Read: they just switch their own production facilities over to QD-OLED.

TV, even LCD is lucrative as it has always been. Plus you don't just do LCD for TVs either. You just do LCDs for anything. The fact is any LCD is ultra cheap to make, and you can add all sorts of junk on top to make it look like the next best thing. Samsung has already exhausted all those measures with QLED, so its on to the next bag of lies. Note how their implementation of OLED is highly cost effective and 'supposedly' just as good. Mhm... so they found a holy grail with no drawbacks? Interesting... interesting indeed ;) Especially as their 'OLED' is built in a remarkably similar way as an LCD - backlight(s) and (QD) canvas.

TheLostSwedeI'm surprised no-one has complied about the fact that it's using a VA-panel as yet...
Or about the 132 zone "FALD".
C'mon people, you're losing your touch.

Sorry. Only had one coffee yet

This is going to be a hard sell for them. I've used a 40in T.V. for over a decade now, and it's really not idea for gaming upclose. Going to a 55 in "Monitor" would be overkill. And having Android on your "Monitor"...doesn't that mean Google will have some sort of control over your viewing options? I think only a fool would covet this...

These are viable for people like me who simply dont care about OTA television
But they have to meet the same standards as high end gaming TV's, with *lower* price tags or they're a total flop.


Being an android "TV" you get literally everything except a tuner card - I guess brits would love that with their weird tax on owning televisions.

TheDeeGeeDoes Ikea sell 5 meter deep desks?, otherwise i don't see how this works as a desk monitor.]

Oh - you wall mount it or use a stand. Bajillions of designs from flat stands, to tables with them built in, to wall mounts and clamp designs.
I've used one like this in the past to get the height right and keep it at the back of a fairly large desk i had to ditch when i moved house.

@MarsM4N
since i started selling tvs running android (sony), or using them myself, i havent seen a single ad, outside watching a free movie (with ads) on an app.
just because there's brands doing it, doesn't mean its the OS.



funny how claim possible issues running a big screen close, yet have not used it for longer periods.

i have no neck or other pain, as im now looking up, not down.
and mounting even a 32 high enough to do the same, looks definitely ridiculous.

a 48 was my preferred size, but ABL on the oleds is a problem, same with most lcd, likr vizio flickering the screen when using low brightness and vrr enabled, so the 50 sony was one of the only options to get a fald screnn with decent color coverage/low banding, and having vrr/alllm..

What nutter would have a monitor this size on their desk. We have a 58" TV and using it as a desk monitor would not only look fooking stupid imo, but wtf do you need a 50"+ monitor for ffs.

TiggerWhat nutter would have a monitor this size on their desk. We have a 58" TV and using it as a desk monitor would not only look fooking stupid imo, but wtf do you need a 50"+ monitor for ffs.

me hahahahaha
These days its dual 32", but i did 55" for many years


Remember this is aimed at console gamers - the new consoles do 4K 120Hz (2D output, the games are lower res and upscaled of course)
It's just that the specs are good enough to appeal to PC gamers and the HTPC crowd as well, no reason this cant replace a TV and use a mouse and keyboard on a lapdesk at the couch

Musselsme hahahahaha
These days its dual 32", but i did 55" for many years


Remember this is aimed at console gamers - the new consoles do 4K 120Hz (2D output, the games are lower res and upscaled of course)
It's just that the specs are good enough to appeal to PC gamers and the HTPC crowd as well, no reason this cant replace a TV and use a mouse and keyboard on a lapdesk at the couch

i doubt you game in dual 32'' as monitors in front of your face, that can't be a good experience. Probably used for productivity, no? And i don't know the exact measurements but dual 32'' doesn't occupy the same area as a 58'' or am i wrong? 58'' get's very high for your field of view

the thing is if it's supposed to be used as a tv then call it a tv, a gaming tv :D

Musselsme hahahahaha
These days its dual 32", but i did 55" for many years

Given that you are a mollusc, I'll give you a pass. No doubt both eyesight and anatomy make for different ergonomic consderations in invertebrates.

TiggerWhat nutter would have a monitor this size on their desk. We have a 58" TV and using it as a desk monitor would not only look fooking stupid imo, but wtf do you need a 50"+ monitor for ffs.

Well I had a 49" Monitor from Acer (Just s rebadged TV) of course they replaced the TV tuner with a DP input. I enjoyed it for the time but I wanted something more than 60HZ so my 32QC is now my main driver. I will say though that some racing Games on my 55" TV look life like. Has anybody tried MotoGP 22 at 4K HDR?

guess some folks have never been to a proper theater like imax classic (not imax experience).

immersion means a big screen close to you.
unless you're having trouble with ur vision, there is NO minimum distance. its a recommendation.
just because some here dont need it, doesn't mean no one (on this planet).

i started playing on an 85in@6ft during slow times at work (display in my shop), and just being able to read even the smallest text (Ace combat) showed me my 43 wasnt big enough

Fry178guess some folks have never been to a proper theater like imax classic (not imax experience).

immersion means a big screen close to you.
unless you're having trouble with ur vision, there is NO minimum distance. its a recommendation.
just because some here dont need it, doesn't mean no one (on this planet).

i started playing on an 85in@6ft during slow times at work (display in my shop), and just being able to read even the smallest text (Ace combat) showed me my 43 wasnt big enough

Guess some people don't know the difference between a movie and an interactive piece of entertainment where HUD/UI elements are usually on the far edges of a screen, and other impracticalities, plus sessions that are longer than your average movie.

It really depends on your use case. If you have a desktop setting and this is supposed to be your gaming setup, you can PM me if you find the first doctor that will advise you to ignore ergonomy standards blindly. Your personal opinion really isn't relevant to this matter. Eventually, you will know you made a little error in judgment. Its fine for a while, sure, like most things are in moderation.

But if you do your prolonged gaming sessions with KB/M on a panel that forces you to keep twisting your neck to keep track of things, you can rest assured you'll visit the doctor at one point.

There are countless examples in recent times too that show us things about screen time and physical/mental development. The % of people with nearsightedness increases. There are progressively more people with lower back and shoulder/neck pain, often of a chronical nature, and they occur much earlier in life, often even in adolescence. There are ever more kids wearing glasses. Etc etc etc. The primary cause? Smartphones and tablets, that enforce a non-ergonomic posture for prolonged periods of time.

As for immersion... what it means is you are excited by the content you're playing/watching. It does not relate to a certain screen diagonal. It might help immersion, but that's a brain thing. If you say that's what's important, you will find it so. If you convince yourself you can do without, you'll be just as immersed. I'd say: weigh those pros and cons correctly, or you'll be sorry one day.

Fry178unless you're having trouble with ur vision, there is NO minimum distance. its a recommendation.

You should read a little about it. And you can rest assured this is all very real, after all, this is costing employers metric tons of money.
Btw I just clicked the top link, but it really won't matter. This is universal stuff

www.viewsonic.com/library/business/office-ergonomics-the-complete-guide/

Here's the TL DR

Vayra86Guess some people don't know the difference between a movie and an interactive piece of entertainment where HUD/UI elements are usually on the far edges of a screen, and other impracticalities, plus sessions that are longer than your average movie.

It really depends on your use case. If you have a desktop setting and this is supposed to be your gaming setup, you can PM me if you find the first doctor that will advise you to ignore ergonomy standards blindly. Your personal opinion really isn't relevant to this matter. Eventually, you will know you made a little error in judgment. Its fine for a while, sure, like most things are in moderation.

But if you do your prolonged gaming sessions with KB/M on a panel that forces you to keep twisting your neck to keep track of things, you can rest assured you'll visit the doctor at one point.

There are countless examples in recent times too that show us things about screen time and physical/mental development. The % of people with nearsightedness increases. There are progressively more people with lower back and shoulder/neck pain, often of a chronical nature, and they occur much earlier in life, often even in adolescence. There are ever more kids wearing glasses. Etc etc etc. The primary cause? Smartphones and tablets, that enforce a non-ergonomic posture for prolonged periods of time.

As for immersion... what it means is you are excited by the content you're playing/watching. It does not relate to a certain screen diagonal. It might help immersion, but that's a brain thing. If you say that's what's important, you will find it so. If you convince yourself you can do without, you'll be just as immersed. I'd say: weigh those pros and cons correctly, or you'll be sorry one day.


You should read a little about it. And you can rest assured this is all very real, after all, this is costing employers metric tons of money.
Btw I just clicked the top link, but it really won't matter. This is universal stuff

www.viewsonic.com/library/business/office-ergonomics-the-complete-guide/

Here's the TL DR

Thank you for saving me the time needed to write that post myself :toast:

It's also worth mentioning that there's a world of difference in terms of eye strain between watching a giant IMAX screen at 10+ meters and a TV at 2 meters. Not only do the eyes have to work much, much harder to focus between the center and edges of the closer screen (as the relative difference in focus distance is much larger), but also (as you touch on) an IMAX film won't ask you to rapidly look between the edges and center of the monitor for hours on end.

R0H1TPretty sure you can't do that on a PC, the network connection will be via your (desktop) system so you can always block anything you don't want seeing on it.

It's running on a Android OS, so whenever you are using the Android apps you will get adds. ;) Don't know how it's wired, but I guess it has it's own network port/connection.

Fry178since i started selling tvs running android (sony), or using them myself, i havent seen a single ad, outside watching a free movie (with ads) on an app.
just because there's brands doing it, doesn't mean its the OS.

Interesting. :) Are you signed up for Youtube Premium or are you using a DNS server or some other trick by any chance?

Because if you don't you would normally get this:

ValantarThank you for saving me the time needed to write that post myself :toast:

It's also worth mentioning that there's a world of difference in terms of eye strain between watching a giant IMAX screen at 10+ meters and a TV at 2 meters. Not only do the eyes have to work much, much harder to focus between the center and edges of the closer screen (as the relative difference in focus distance is much larger), but also (as you touch on) an IMAX film won't ask you to rapidly look between the edges and center of the monitor for hours on end.

Mankind does all kinds of stupid things that they shouldn't. Smoking is very dangerous but every Gas station and convenience store in North America sells them. The thing is if you are really into Gaming with the high resolution displays that are available that it is indeed fun to enjoy a super large screen. Just think of this sentiment being applied to VR and we should be very afraid. I am not saying that what you are saying does not have scientific merit but for the "Immersion" there is no substitute. People enjoy Gaming on their 55 inch 1080P TV in the days of the PS4. Having a large 4K display hooked up to a modern PC is one of those things in Computing that gives you that special smile when you first experience it. You also have enough space to have plenty of Windows. +

@Vayra86
just funny how many of your examples srent fitting me (neither kid nor stupid enough to use the phone for browsing etc, nor do i play CS).
and moving your eyes quickly watching a screen might be a straining issue, isnt bad for your vision (physical damage)..
just because someone sued an employer does not mean much, as they did for not getting a 1h lunch break, still doesn't mean i need to take a lunch break at home.
any "studies" need to last over +10y, with a randomized group of more than 5000 ppl, to be statistically relevant, so far i haven't seen that.

does everyone that smokes get cancer?
does everyone that has/had cancer, smoked in their life?
i have +20 friends that are DRs, and i know them for +30y, so im fine on medical advise..

anything affecting ppl physically (eye "damage" etc) is usually not coming from sitting close to a screen, but things like blue light (emitted) etc.

for the past 47y im sitting close to any screen no matter if i game or watch stuff, so far nothing has affected my vision besides
genetics, so i must be a clinical curiosity, lol ...



@MarsM4N
i have accounts for google/prime/pluto on it, not even seen ads when i used yt app on my shop displays.
then again, can only speak for sonys and vizio (limited)
but i dont care much for yt, as i can read manuals to make stuff work.. :D

That's a big screen!

Bomby569if anyone seats inches in front of a 56'' monitor to game then i take my hat to you sir, that's one neck exercise

Pec Decks for chest, and this Neck Deck for necks.

32"-34" would probably be as big as I would go for a desktop monitor(if I ever end up needed something that big), and at 34" I would be going with something like a 4k PremierColor monitor from Dell. No G-Sync/Free-Sync for gaming, but excellent color accuracy for productivity.

MentalAcetylidePec Decks for chest, and this Neck Deck for necks.

32"-34" would probably be as big as I would go for a desktop monitor(if I ever end up needed something that big), and at 34" I would be going with something like a 4k PremierColor monitor from Dell. No G-Sync/Free-Sync for gaming, but excellent color accuracy for productivity.

32" 4K is the absolute best for pixel density. I can only imagine what an 32-43" OLED that can support HDR will look like in about 2 years

kapone3232" 4K is the absolute best for pixel density. I can only imagine what an 32-43" OLED that can support HDR will look like in about 2 years

Yeah, but its terrible for the games I play, which would mean having a 27" + 34" on the desk. I would have to get a perpendicular addition section for the desk in order to have enough room for them. 72" width + 30" depth added on the end means the desk will end up being 8.5 feet in length overall with an "L" shape. Not getting it any time soon even if I really needed it.

Fry178@Vayra86
just funny how many of your examples srent fitting me (neither kid nor stupid enough to use the phone for browsing etc, nor do i play CS).
and moving your eyes quickly watching a screen might be a straining issue, isnt bad for your vision (physical damage)..
just because someone sued an employer does not mean much, as they did for not getting a 1h lunch break, still doesn't mean i need to take a lunch break at home.
any "studies" need to last over +10y, with a randomized group of more than 5000 ppl, to be statistically relevant, so far i haven't seen that.

does everyone that smokes get cancer?
does everyone that has/had cancer, smoked in their life?
i have +20 friends that are DRs, and i know them for +30y, so im fine on medical advise..

anything affecting ppl physically (eye "damage" etc) is usually not coming from sitting close to a screen, but things like blue light (emitted) etc.

for the past 47y im sitting close to any screen no matter if i game or watch stuff, so far nothing has affected my vision besides
genetics, so i must be a clinical curiosity, lol ...



@MarsM4N
i have accounts for google/prime/pluto on it, not even seen ads when i used yt app on my shop displays.
then again, can only speak for sonys and vizio (limited)
but i dont care much for yt, as i can read manuals to make stuff work.. :D

Righto superman, you do you ;)

Fry178@Vayra86
just funny how many of your examples srent fitting me (neither kid nor stupid enough to use the phone for browsing etc, nor do i play CS).
and moving your eyes quickly watching a screen might be a straining issue, isnt bad for your vision (physical damage)..
just because someone sued an employer does not mean much, as they did for not getting a 1h lunch break, still doesn't mean i need to take a lunch break at home.
any "studies" need to last over +10y, with a randomized group of more than 5000 ppl, to be statistically relevant, so far i haven't seen that.

does everyone that smokes get cancer?
does everyone that has/had cancer, smoked in their life?
i have +20 friends that are DRs, and i know them for +30y, so im fine on medical advise..

anything affecting ppl physically (eye "damage" etc) is usually not coming from sitting close to a screen, but things like blue light (emitted) etc.

for the past 47y im sitting close to any screen no matter if i game or watch stuff, so far nothing has affected my vision besides
genetics, so i must be a clinical curiosity, lol ...



@MarsM4N
i have accounts for google/prime/pluto on it, not even seen ads when i used yt app on my shop displays.
then again, can only speak for sonys and vizio (limited)
but i dont care much for yt, as i can read manuals to make stuff work.. :D

Ergonomics are always individual, but ... well, keep using displays that big, and you will be visiting one of those doctor friends sooner or later. As with smoking, it's a question of when, not if. Some people are lucky, some people die from other reasons before lung cancer gets them, but in general, if you smoke for any significant point of time, you will get lung cancer. Same goes for overexerting your body in various ways - you will inevitably start feeling the strain. This is obviously highly dependent on genetics, lifestyle, etc, but joints, ligaments, muscles and cartilage are all susceptible to both short-term exertion and long-term wear. For everyone. Again: a question of when, not if.

kapone32Mankind does all kinds of stupid things that they shouldn't. Smoking is very dangerous but every Gas station and convenience store in North America sells them. The thing is if you are really into Gaming with the high resolution displays that are available that it is indeed fun to enjoy a super large screen. Just think of this sentiment being applied to VR and we should be very afraid. I am not saying that what you are saying does not have scientific merit but for the "Immersion" there is no substitute. People enjoy Gaming on their 55 inch 1080P TV in the days of the PS4. Having a large 4K display hooked up to a modern PC is one of those things in Computing that gives you that special smile when you first experience it. You also have enough space to have plenty of Windows. +

That is just about the dumbest cop-out stance possible. "People do stupid, self-destructive crap all the time, so why argue against it?" is... not even an argument. People aren't generally rational actors, but there's still a point to educating and informing people about stupid and harmful habits they have. Also, smoking might kill you in 30-50 years; bad ergonomics might leave you with chronic joint pain or similar after much shorter time spans than that - months or maybe a few years.

Also: immersion is an experience produced voluntarily through effort by the person experiencing it. The things interacted with obviously play a huge role in the specifics of this immersion, but so do the beliefs and attitudes of the person in question. If you keep telling yourself that a huge monitor is more immersive, you will experience it as such - but if you don't, then you might not. Or you might just not care. Experiencing immersion is never as simple as increasing how overwhelming the sensory stimuli are - but it can help. But ... people experienced immersion in the black-and-white ultra-simplistic graphics of 70s home consoles played on 10-15" TVs. It's about the whole of the experience, not the screen you're looking at.