BlaezaGood or Bad? Place your bets...

DenverBad in price, performance and power drawn... but good in 3DMark.

Tek-CheckGN tested A380 earlier today...crushing review... Should we expect more consistent performance from A750?

u2konlineso when are any of these cards coming to stores/retail stores/online to buy?

64KThe rumor is that the Arc cards have been delayed and will not be available until Fall here in the USA. Not sure about other countries.

u2konlineAlright thanks. I wonder why Blaeza is laughing at what i said lol.

TiggerWhatever it is like it is intels first attempt at a discrete gaming GPU, so it can't be that bad for a first attempt. Lets face it, the money Intel have, what will the second or third attempt be like? probably pretty good.

TiggerWhatever it is like it is intels first attempt at a discrete gaming GPU, so it can't be that bad for a first attempt. Lets face it, the money Intel have, what will the second or third attempt be like? probably pretty good.

usinameFirst attempt? Did you forget DG1? Did you forgot all XE96 IGPUs since Ice Lake? Did you forgot the two decades of intel HD, Iris and whatever was before them? This is no first attempt, it's a decade of experience and the scaling of iGPU to dGPU is not something completely different. In fact, they have far more experience with ways more sold GPUs. Especially XE is 3 years old architecture

ZetZetAnd hardware doesn't seem to be the problem. Drivers for games are the problem, something that Intel has very little experience with.

cvaldesThis makes zero sense.

It's unlikely that Intel is naive enough to think that these graphics cards won't ever be reviewed. At some point tech sites are going to get their hands on them regardless of whether it's a review sample from Intel (or an AIB partner) or a card from the retail marketplace.

If Intel doesn't want a particular CPU, NUC, network card, whatever reviewed, what do you think happens? Do they stick their head in the sand and hope no one notices? NO. This is not Intel's first rodeo, not by a long shot. Intel is not being run by a bunch of snot-nosed 22-year-old interns whose mantra is "fake it until you make it."

Furthermore if Intel knew the cards were disappointing, wouldn't it be in their best interest to send key reviewers cherry picked Golden Samples instead of letting reviewers play the silicon lottery from retailers? Or maybe if Intel did send out review samples for presumed stinkers, people would accuse them of that ploy. It has been done before countless times and not just PC components either.

Even if TPU doesn't review this card someone else will eventually.

john_ARC series are like UFOs. So many rumors, photographs, stories, but still no first contact for the consumers.

CheapMeatWill their GPUs have QuickSync? That would be a game changer and instant buy for me.

usinameLittle experience again? Did you saw the photo, Intel has hundreds of millions sold iGPUs and still cannot make good driver for their iGPU. Its not to experince, it's just their incompetence. They never released stable driver for HD4600 the most popular gpu 2013-2016, "supported" till 2021 when is their last driver for it.

ZetZetYes, those two people that worked in iGPU drivers all this time are probably incompetent. But they also might have focused on things that are irrelevant for gaming.

usinameTwo people only in your dreams, they have much more people dedicated for this, or no? For a company with hundred millions sold GPUs that says a lot. If you want trash GPU with zero support, Intel is your manifacturer ;)

ZetZetRealtek and Mediatek sells millions of networking devices and they still have absolutely awful drivers a lot of the time. Just one example. Just because Nvidia has exceptionally good drivers doesn't mean it's so simple for everyone. AMD is still arguably behind them after decades of actual gaming cards manufacturing.