Will be waiting for reviews.

Waiting for Zen 5+ and RX9000.

There was some scuttlebutt that Zen 4 might launch in August...

Well They have to launch it in the 3rd quarter. The missed last quarter goals and lost value in their stocks.

Let's just see how good these things are. But I'm going by past generation's performances increases.

But what is going to be worse is the increase in price with the motherboards. This is where AMD is going to screw their customer base and reap the financial rewards.

AMD is nothing more than another Intel now. I don't expect anything less coming from them.

Icon CharlieBut what is going to be worse is the increase in price with the motherboards. This is where AMD is going to screw their customer base and reap the financial rewards.

AMD is nothing more than another Intel now. I don't expect anything less coming from them.

Or you know, increased complexity of boards leads to increase in prices?

Come on AMD, bring it on, I'm curious! :)
But.... hope they have contingency plans in place in case Taiwan flares up into a messy war.

While we expect the gaming MINING graphics market to be down in the third quarter, we remain focused on executing our GPU roadmap, including launching our high-end RDNA three GPUs later this year.

Lisa Su, AMD CEO (Q2 2022 Earnings Call)

There, I fixed it for you, that's what you wanted to say and we all know it.

AlwaysHopeCome on AMD, bring it on, I'm curious! :)
But.... hope they have contingency plans in place in case Taiwan flares up into a messy war.

contingency plans? go Korean or change the core business to selling bikes exclusively. There is no other options.

The problem I see is that most users, if not all, already have upgraded to a ryzen whatever gen or intel and no matter how fast these new cpus are, very few will pull the trigger to change everything.
Also It’s been more than 2 years that people couldn’t get a gpu and upgraded their mobos/cpus waiting for the prices to go down.

I foresee bad sales no matter what.

Icon CharlieWell They have to launch it in the 3rd quarter. The missed last quarter goals and lost value in their stocks.

Let's just see how good these things are. But I'm going by past generation's performances increases.

But what is going to be worse is the increase in price with the motherboards. This is where AMD is going to screw their customer base and reap the financial rewards.

AMD is nothing more than another Intel now. I don't expect anything less coming from them.

At least you can continue using the motherboard for the duration of AM5's life. Even if you may not upgrade the CPU, it'll allow for better resale value once you upgrade versus Intel only supporting one or two generations. I'm willing to eat a bit extra in price for that as it means not needing to buy a new motherboard and/or recouping those extra costs in resale/ease of resale.

"Come on Christmas, Daddy needs new shoes"



I'm planning to finally build a new system for the three of us here.

Me, Myself and I.

Now if only I can stop from getting over-excited and impulse buy.

Icon CharlieWell They have to launch it in the 3rd quarter. The missed last quarter goals and lost value in their stocks.

Let's just see how good these things are. But I'm going by past generation's performances increases.

But what is going to be worse is the increase in price with the motherboards. This is where AMD is going to screw their customer base and reap the financial rewards.

AMD is nothing more than another Intel now. I don't expect anything less coming from them.

All tech stocks lost big recently. There could be numerous reasons for a delay, one is that there is not delay and rumors were just that rumors, another is they want to steal or diminish the thunder of other launches.

As for the prices, AMD doesnt control retail sales.

gffermariThe problem I see is that most users, if not all, already have upgraded to a ryzen whatever gen or intel and no matter how fast these new cpus are, very few will pull the trigger to change everything.
Also It’s been more than 2 years that people couldn’t get a gpu and upgraded their mobos/cpus waiting for the prices to go down.

I foresee bad sales no matter what.

I agree, speculation is rough on my magic 8-ball..

Bomby569contingency plans? go Korean or change the core business to selling bikes exclusively. There is no other options.

Yeah hopefully they won't go that route:

DeathtoGnomesAs for the prices, AMD doesnt control retail sales.

They should. The way the retailers and third-party graphic card manufacturers have acted has been disgusting.

aciDevThey should. The way the retailers and third-party graphic card manufacturers have acted has been disgusting.

I doubt we will have a CPU shortage this time around, as the previous one was mostly due to Covid. Now GPU is another story... A lot more "options" in the hands of AMD/Nvidia there.

aciDevThey should. The way the retailers and third-party graphic card manufacturers have acted has been disgusting.

Wishful thinking really. AMD can only publish MSRP. Also any direct sales from AMD are close to average retail prices.

Retailers are about profit, so yea it can get disgusting at times, think GPU scalp pricing.

DeathtoGnomesAs for the prices, AMD doesnt control retail sales.

All of them could have done much more. AMD had that pathetic direct sale channel on the website and did nothing to prevent bots taking everything. And they increased MSRP on CPU's and GPU's. Refused to do LHR versions. And certainly had influence with AIB's to stop them so openly selling cards directly to mining farms.

WCCFtech thinks it has the exact dates.
wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7000-desktop-cpus-x670-motherboards-launch-on-15th-september/

• Product announcement: August 29, 2022 at 8:00PM ET / August 30, 2022 at 2:00AM CET / 8:00AM TW
• Press embargo: September 13, 2022 at 9AM ET / 3PM CET / 9PM TW
• Sales embargo: September 15, 2022 at 9AM ET / 3PM CET / 9PM TW

Icon CharlieWell They have to launch it in the 3rd quarter. The missed last quarter goals and lost value in their stocks.

Let's just see how good these things are. But I'm going by past generation's performances increases.

But what is going to be worse is the increase in price with the motherboards. This is where AMD is going to screw their customer base and reap the financial rewards.

AMD is nothing more than another Intel now. I don't expect anything less coming from them.

Amen brother!
When Zen came out you could get ATX form factor mb for $90 and mATX for $50ish.
With the north bridge and southbridge being part of the CPU the motherboards should not cost that much for sure.
I've owned way more AMD machines than Intel just from the simple fact that I always bought midrange and AMD being the underdog the always provided good value in that sector but I wasn't never under any delusion that's the were the "good guys" they just never hat the product to do it with well all that has changed now.

mamaThere was some scuttlebutt that Zen 4 might launch in August...

That was a writer jumping the gun because of a typo (that was later fixed) about a motherboard showcase.

Icon CharlieWell They have to launch it in the 3rd quarter. The missed last quarter goals and lost value in their stocks.

They did not "miss" anything. AMD never said it would launch Zen4 in Q2. Also i would say AMD stock is doing quite well compared to Chipzilla.

ChomiqOr you know, increased complexity of boards leads to increase in prices?

Decreased complexity actually. Dual ASMedia chipsets are cheaper than one X570. And with best DDR5 sticks being 16GB most boards could easily cut half the DIMM slots while maintaining 32GB capacity that is enough for most people all while actually increasing speeds with 1DPC system.

Bomby569All of them could have done much more. AMD had that pathetic direct sale channel on the website and did nothing to prevent bots taking everything. And they increased MSRP on CPU's and GPU's. Refused to do LHR versions. And certainly had influence with AIB's to stop them so openly selling cards directly to mining farms.

Atleast AMD had that channel. Nvidia just said FU to gamers and sold pellets to miners directly. Now they come crawling back begging for gamers to buy their old crap for near MSRP as if it's a good deal two years after release. And they did not need LHR equivalent because RDNA2 was worse at mining than Ampere.

r9When Zen came out you could get ATX form factor mb for $90 and mATX for $50ish.

There were $200+ X370 models. Im quite sure we will see $90 B650 boards. X670 and X670E are only for increased IO and unlike Intel's midrange chipsets there and no arbitrary limitations plus planned obsolescence with one chipset/socket supporting only two generations of CPU's.

Has anyone heard anything else about the rumors of AM4 getting some Zen 4 chips? I'm likely going to stick with AM4 for a while, so I'm wondering when I should upgrade my CPU.

Bomby569AMD had that pathetic direct sale channel on the website and did nothing to prevent bots taking everything.

Hate to break it to you, but all three have direct sales. That makes them all pathetic, right? or did you mean something else?

DeathtoGnomesHate to break it to you, but all three have direct sales. That makes them all pathetic, right? or did you mean something else?

You guys love to take everything to a childish fanboy war. I was specifically talking about AMD and how pathetic their sale system was. I never said anything about the others did better or worst.

Bomby569You guys love to take everything to a childish fanboy war. I was specifically talking about AMD and how pathetic their sale system was. I never said anything about the others did better or worst.

You were not specific enough. bots bought up everything everywhere, not specifically just AMD and I get your point now.

So now let me ask this, how was AMD sale system more pathetic than Nvidia or others.

DeathtoGnomesYou were not specific enough. bots bought up everything everywhere, not specifically just AMD and I get your point now.

So now let me ask this, how was more pathetic than Nvidia or others.

This topic is about AMD so there is that.

TomorrowThat was a writer jumping the gun because of a typo (that was later fixed) about a motherboard showcase.

They did not "miss" anything. AMD never said it would launch Zen4 in Q2. Also i would say AMD stock is doing quite well compared to Chipzilla.

Decreased complexity actually. Dual ASMedia chipsets are cheaper than one X570. And with best DDR5 sticks being 16GB most boards could easily cut half the DIMM slots while maintaining 32GB capacity that is enough for most people all while actually increasing speeds with 1DPC system.

Atleast AMD had that channel. Nvidia just said FU to gamers and sold pellets to miners directly. Now they come crawling back begging for gamers to buy their old crap for near MSRP as if it's a good deal two years after release. And they did not need LHR equivalent because RDNA2 was worse at mining than Ampere.

There were $200+ X370 models. Im quite sure we will see $90 B650 boards. X670 and X670E are only for increased IO and unlike Intel's midrange chipsets there and no arbitrary limitations plus planned obsolescence with one chipset/socket supporting only two generations of CPU's.

And the scuttlebutt continues...
www.techpowerup.com/297448/possible-amd-ryzen-7000-launch-timeline-surfaces-late-aug-launch-mid-sep-availability