Tuesday, August 16th 2022

AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Retailer Pricing 10% to 13% Higher Than Ryzen 5000

PC Canada has drawn first blood in registering pricing for AMD's upcoming Ryzen 7000 series, the successor to the successful 5000 series. As spotted by renowned leaker momomo_us and shared on Twitter, the specialist retailer based in Canada listed pricing for the Ryzen 7 7600X, 7700X, 7900X and 7950X CPUs. The pricing, if representative, shows an average increase that averages to 10%-12% across SKUs when compared to the previous generation Ryzen. The prices could be placeholders based on the retailers' own expectations, so this information should be taken with a grain of salt (or two).

After conversion from CAD to US dollars, pricing settles at $340 for the Ryzen 7 7600X ($299 for the 5600X at launch, for a 13% premium); $494 for the Ryzen 7 7700X (against the later-released, $299 Ryzen 7 5700X for a 65% premium); $625 for the Ryzen 9 7900X ($549 for the launch Ryzen 9 5900X, for a 13% increase) and finally, the Ryzen 9 7950X for $906 (against the Ryzen 9 5950X's $799 asking price, for another 13% premium).
The Ryzen 7 5700X pricing is an outlier. As can be seen, the rest of the lineup seems to be carrying a pretty constant price hike. It's also strange that AMD would lead its launch with the Ryzen 7 7700X instead of the Ryzen 7 7800X - the company famously elected to only release the Ryzen 7 5800X at the time of the lineup's launch. If we compare the Ryzen 7 7700X's pricing against the 5800X's introduction, we end up with a price hike of around 10% instead - much more in-line with what we'd expect to materialize.

The price hikes have to be taken into the context of inflation, however; as the retailer is based in Canada, we have to look to Canada's inflation rate (8.1% as of June 2022) to see what the actual increase in pricing is. Adjusting for inflation, we're looking at a theoretical average price increase of 5% for AMD's CPUs. It could be said that that's the real increase in Average Selling Price (ASP), as the rest of it is absorbed by the higher inflation rates.

But of course, mathematics doesn't always work out that way. While AMD has the benefit of launching its new CPU family and adjust prices accounting for inflation, most consumers are unlikely to see their paychecks rise by the same amount. This will lead to scenarios where consumers are actually paying a 10-13% premium for their new hardware with the same monthly budget - while inflation pulls its weight on the price of everything else, including basic necessities.

This increased processor pricing will certainly play into the added platform costs for AMD's Zen 4 CPUs and the AM5 platform. With a new socket, support limited to the still pricier DDR5 memory, and the added cost of PCIe 5.0, platform costs as a whole for AM5 are climbing before our eyes. And we must remember that inflation is likely to hit these ancillary products as well - not just the CPUs themselves.

It seems like the best way for savvy enthusiasts and system builders is to simply invest into the heavily-discounted Ryzen 5000 parts and AM4 platform, which will still provide enough performance for at least four additional years, rather than risking a costly and so very significant system upgrade. Consumers will, as always, vote with their wallets.
Sources: momomo_us @ Twitter, via Tom's Hardware
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74 Comments on AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Retailer Pricing 10% to 13% Higher Than Ryzen 5000

#26
Denver
They are giving too much importance to these obviously false prices.
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#27
progste
Those aren't at msrp, are they?
Don't buy at "premium" prices, don't reward this behavior (whether it's from AMD or the seller).
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#28
Denver
robert3892TSMC pricing also went up as well as materials. If performance is vastly improved then I think the price increase is worth the investment. Of course a new motherboard and DDR5 memory are also required.
- The Zen4 die is smaller than Zen3.
- These prices make no sense in the current scenario and do not encourage people to migrate to a new platform. The previous leak seems more reliable to me.
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#29
trsttte
r9If I'm building/upgrading at the moment I'll definitely for for this from Microcenter plus they giveaway 240GB SSDs as well.
I wouldn't depend on the free ssd for anything important but Microcenter sure has been pushing a lot for to maintain and increase their market presence. I wish they existed in Europe
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#31
gdp77
First of all, these (if valid) are "early-adopters" mark up prices. Like every new CPU generation, in 3-6 months prices will normalize.

Secondly, RPL will destroy ZEN4, according to early leaks/performance benchmarks, so AMD will drop prices if they don't want to loose even more market share. ZEN4 will be able to match AL single thread performance (photoshop / gaming etc). RPL will be uncontested. That's why, you simply w8 for RPL release and then buy cheap ZEN4 cpus.

It will be like 2017 original ZEN days, when AMD offered great value, but the gaming and single thread performance crown were owned by Intel.

Let's hope that DDR5 prices will also come down to earth.
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#32
Haile Selassie
r9At those prices they can keep it.
I'm definitely getting a kick of Intel being the budget friendly alternative. :D
If I'm building/upgrading at the moment I'll definitely for for this from Microcenter plus they giveaway 240GB SSDs as well.
The overstock must be terrible...
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#33
PapaTaipei
Haile SelassieThe overstock must be terrible...
Yep
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#34
beautyless
One painful situation I had was happened with my Socket-A I bought at the end era of the socket.
At first, I want to use it for 5 years (2004-2009) but Vista come, DDR2 come. When I look for upgrade, this happen.
- I've only AGP, all good performance AGP GPUs are priced premium.
- I've only DDR. I want to use Vista, I need more RAM, I found that DDR 1GB are become rare and pricey. DDR2 are cheaper.
- CPU upgrade from Sempron 2200+ are available but Socket 939 are so good.
It's not reasonable to upgrade only something. So I stop and upgrade to new full system C2D E4300 instead, in just 2 years.
Buying hardware in early life of new socket is ideal for me, you can live with it longer before it get too old.
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#35
Dave65
As an AMD fanboy, shame on you AMD for acting like Intel..
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#36
HD64G
I don't believe those prices will have anythng to do with the retail prices when the sales begin. Just take into consideration that 6700 will be the successor to 5800 and the 6800 could have 10 cores which will be a new price and performance tier. I don't think with the DDR5 and new board prices being high that AMD will milk on the CPUs this time around. Especially when Intel is/will be very close in performance.
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#37
Chrispy_
beautylessBuying hardware in early life of new socket is ideal for me, you can live with it longer before it get too old.
DDR4 still has a few years to run, it's not the same as DDR vs DDR2 where there was a clean switchover and DDR(1) supply died off very quickly. Brand new products from Intel and AMD are still being made (and planned for future release) well into 2023.

My rule of thumb is to avoid the first 6 months of any platform. You'll pay a premium, you'll get teething troubles, and by the time you're happy with the end result there is usually a refresh on the horizon that makes significant improvements to price/performance and motherboard vendors usually do a much better job of a new platform for the second generation. B350 and X470 boards were a bit shit, even some of the flagship models. B450 and X570 boards were vastly better both in BIOS quality and VRM performance.
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#39
Unregistered
Legacy-ZAThese prices, how very disappointing AMD.
What do you expect, Intel, AMD and nVidia none of them cares about us, till they need us.
#40
napata
Denver- The Zen4 die is smaller than Zen3.
- These prices make no sense in the current scenario and do not encourage people to migrate to a new platform. The previous leak seems more reliable to me.
There's still massive margins on CPUs so lower prices or equal prices to Zen 3 are very much possible but N5 is almost twice as expensive as N7 while the CCD die is only 10% smaller. There's also the fact that the IOD is on N7 instead of 12nm from GlobalFoundries so also more expensive. I still think these prices are just placeholders. Early price leaks for AL were also higher than actual prices IIRC.
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#41
Unregistered
Maybe so they can lower the prices and make us believe it's a deal then :D
#42
DeathtoGnomes
@TheLostSwede

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#43
JAB Creations
noel_fsthats way too overprived

im salty

Thats literally intel behavior,
YEAH! AMD SHOULD ONLY SELL STUFF FOR CHEAP MAKE NO PROFITS AND WHO CARES IF THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS!

This is why I hate reading comments, 99% of the time the first one is not only 100% lacking any any business comprehension though most of these kinds of commenters are actually proud of what they post.
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#44
ODOGG26
I still dont understand why people complain when a company releases their new product with more performance, new node, etc.. for more money. Its like they want them to price their new product for the same price as their last product. Its quite hilarious. No one wants a price increase but they need to understand why the price increased. I would get it if the price increased by 30-50% then sure I would be upset too but 10-13% is not the end of the world. Same with Zen 3. I mean huge performance upgrade over Zen 2 for mostly a $50 dollars increase across the board and people were so mad. :roll:
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#45
Soul_
JAB CreationsYEAH! AMD SHOULD ONLY SELL STUFF FOR CHEAP MAKE NO PROFITS AND WHO CARES IF THEY GO OUT OF BUSINESS!

This is why I hate reading comments, 99% of the time the first one is not only 100% lacking any any business comprehension though most of these kinds of commenters are actually proud of what they post.
This is why I hate reading comments from corporate apologists, who pretend to understand business, who think they understand economics and capitalism, and the balance between the two..

I built 5900x machine after the prices stabilised in fall 2021, but when they weren't acceptable, I advised my friend an Intel machine in winter 2020 because AMD was price gouging at that time..

Progress from capitalism view, and a genuine expectation from end users is, cost per unit performance coming down with each iteration. This is typically handled by introducing higher performance devices at the same tier with each iteration, without changing the price for that particular tier.

What we have witnessed from AMD recently is nothing short of price gouging, while initially suggesting how they are 'the last bastion of honest capitalism' against the price gouging competitors. Given the chance, they did exactly the same.

So yes, you can keep on riding your high horse, while the rest of us ensure that we try to get best bang for our buck without being mindless fanboys.
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#46
r9
trsttteI wouldn't depend on the free ssd for anything important but Microcenter sure has been pushing a lot for to maintain and increase their market presence. I wish they existed in Europe
Lot of times they are cheaper than even the online retailers and you can just go there and pick it up instead of waiting to get mailed so that's pretty nice.
Haile SelassieThe overstock must be terrible...
Personally I think they just ordered bunch of the those two components to get people in. They don't make a lot if any money(if any) from just those two components but for most people they'll build a whole machine around it and that's where they make their money.
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#47
Denver
napataThere's still massive margins on CPUs so lower prices or equal prices to Zen 3 are very much possible but N5 is almost twice as expensive as N7 while the CCD die is only 10% smaller. There's also the fact that the IOD is on N7 instead of 12nm from GlobalFoundries so also more expensive. I still think these prices are just placeholders. Early price leaks for AL were also higher than actual prices IIRC.

I read that 5nm(U$17k) should be 80% more expensive than 7nm(U$ 9346). Zen4 is 14-15% smaller, considering a 65% increase in a chip that costs about $17,99 or less,
it doesn't justify such a big increase.

Also, 7nm can get up to triple the density of 12nm, offsetting the effect of the more expensive process.
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#48
ZoneDymo
hey while we are at it, might as well post this right?


because clearly motherboards will generally cost 900 euro, for sure, most def.

(again what possible benefit could this article have for anyone)
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#49
docnorth
Give me pain Doctor...

Trailer is short anyway, but action begins after 2:30.
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#50
mechtech
Meh

Maybe AM4 stuff will drop even more and I can upgrade on the cheap.
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