The 13700k is looking powerful. Faster than the mighty 5950x.

NanochipThe 13700k is looking powerful. Faster than the mighty 5950x.

I mean wouldn't you expect a new sub high end cpu to beat a 2 years old high end cpu?

Hi,
I'd rather have real cores and threads than thermal defective e cores any day.

7950x with 200MB L3 Cache please! :love:

All of a sudden I have the urge to sell my 5800X...

cellar doorAll of a sudden I have the urge to sell my 5800X...

Hi,
Well for that board yeah 5800x3d is the one to have :cool:

Another build yeah I'm interested to 7k series but likely a lappy in my near future.

EllertisI mean wouldn't you expect a new sub high end cpu to beat a 2 years old high end cpu?

The Ryzen-7 7700x doesn’t beat the 5950x in multicore what are you talking about ?

NanochipThe Ryzen-7 7700x doesn’t beat the 5950x in multicore what are you talking about ?

Sub high end would be 7900x in my mind

ThrashZoneHi,
I'd rather have real cores and threads than thermal defective e cores any day.

Yeah well, you might dislike them but if you buy a high core count cpu, its probably for MT performance. And smaller cores WILL give you more MT performance while being more power efficient AND area efficient

EllertisSub high end would be 7900x in my mind

That’s going to be a killer part for the price (if amd prices it properly), The 7900x.

Even still, intel is giving i7 users ($400-450) more performance than the current $500+ i9 12900k. That’s a win for consumers.

NanochipThat’s going to be a killer part for the price (if amd prices it properly), The 7900x.

Even still, intel is giving i7 users ($400-450) more performance than the current $500+ i9 12900k. That’s a win for consumers.

Back and forth punches, now that`s a real competition

NanochipThe Ryzen-7 7700x doesn’t beat the 5950x in multicore what are you talking about ?

It's still only 8 cores vs 16 cores, there would need to be some absurd uplift for that to happen

EllertisSub high end would be 7900x in my mind


Yeah well, you might dislike them but if you buy a high core count cpu, its probably for MT performance. And smaller cores WILL give you more MT performance while being more power efficient AND area efficient

Hi,
I already have high core/ thread count cpu's
All my builds also have a feature called "By core usage" which is as efficient as I need
And all core oc'ing all 28/ 20/ 12 threads are within 8c of each other
Try that with these e core cpu's :laugh:

EllertisBack and forth punches, now that`s a real competition

I’m loving the competition I’m glad amd is strong…putting serious pressure on intel. Intel can’t just release quad core after quad core and think that’s okay.

Apple left, amd has been steadily gaining market share, AMD’s platform longevity on am4 was good for many consumers. AMD’s chiplet strategy coupled with the key innovation to realize and to productize l3 cache in the 3rd dimension, will be a boon for them. Good that they are optimizing their designs.

I’m interested to see what core designs Intel brings to market in the disaggregated era…redwood cove, lion cove, crestmont skymont, darkmont. As intel shrinks it’s nodes, I’m wondering how many cores it’ll offer for mainstream desktop?

They're showing the 7950x with a ~40% uplift over zen3 5950x, but the 7700x is only doing ~20% over the 5800x, everything still to be seen basically

trsttteThey're showing the 7950x with a ~40% uplift over zen3 5950x, but the 7700x is only doing ~20% over the 5800x, everything still to be seen basically

power, imo. they might keep same power levels for ryzen 7, but R9 is probably getting a bigger power budget. That`s maybe why

ThrashZoneHi,
I already have high core/ thread count cpu's
All my builds also have a feature called "By core usage" which is as efficient as I need
And all core oc'ing all 28/ 20/ 12 threads are within 8c of each other
Try that with these e core cpu's :laugh:

I`m not getting you. What were you trying to tell about your builds?

NanochipThe 13700k is looking powerful. Faster than the mighty 5950x.

The 7950x is looking powerful. Faster than the mighty 5950x.

DavenThe 7950x is looking powerful. Faster than the mighty 5950x.

But more expensive. The 13700k is very likely to be in the $400 range, the 5950x was once $800. A part that costs half as much (at starting msrp) will be faster. That’s competition at play. Finally, The 7950x is going to be at least $700 probably more. But it will be fast for sure gotta give amd kudos for that.

trsttteThey're showing the 7950x with a ~40% uplift over zen3 5950x, but the 7700x is only doing ~20% over the 5800x, everything still to be seen basically

Simple, the 5950x was gimped hard by its power limit at stock while the 5800x wasn't.

trsttteThey're showing the 7950x with a ~40% uplift over zen3 5950x, but the 7700x is only doing ~20% over the 5800x, everything still to be seen basically

Also 20% uplift in the single-core. very clever showing you the multi when PBO is locked and 5950X is starved for power.

I would wait until the meteor lake 8+32, 48 thread or something. +50% next year.

ppnAlso 20% uplift in the single-core. very clever showing you the multi when PBO is locked and 5950X is starved for power.

I would wait until the meteor lake 8+32, 48 thread or something. +50% next year.

Well AMD also will use big.little in zen5 so that`s all will be an interesting confrontation

Is that score not what one would expect from DDR5 6000Mhz alone - can any 12xxx owners confirm the difference between e.g. 3000 and 5000MHz in cpu-z

NanochipThat’s going to be a killer part for the price (if amd prices it properly), The 7900x.

Even still, intel is giving i7 users ($400-450) more performance than the current $500+ i9 12900k. That’s a win for consumers.

It isn't a win by that standard. The i9 has NEVER made any sense lol. You were paying several hundred dollars for 4 extra E cores. In the past you didn't even get anything for the i9 money. i7 is the real top chip. I compare i7 versus new i5, that's where the value lies or not.

God I love CPU wars. I still remember the late 90s.

NanochipBut more expensive. The 13700k is very likely to be in the $400 range, the 5950x was once $800. A part that costs half as much (at starting msrp) will be faster. That’s competition at play. Finally, The 7950x is going to be at least $700 probably more. But it will be fast for sure gotta give amd kudos for that.

Wouldn`t it be reasonable to expect the 7900x to be faster than the 13700k and a bit more expensive too

cellar doorAll of a sudden I have the urge to sell my 5800X...

what about your 5800X3D?