I guess they are gonna be relatively overpriced over existing SKUs

So they are launching this things and the 4xxx cards. I guess we will not see a 4060 or 4060 Ti for at least a year or so.

Oh great - a cheaper, sh**tier 3060 to fight against upcoming competition... Why not just lower the goddamn prices of current cards, after more than a year on a market?! First they complain about unsold stock, now they make even more different products.

RIP midrange GPU market.

PalladiumI guess they are gonna be relatively overpriced over existing SKUs

The 3060 is going to be cheaper at least.

DammeronOh great - a cheaper, sh**tier 3060 to fight against upcoming competition... Why not just lower the goddamn prices of current cards, after more than a year on a market?! First they complain about unsold stock, now they make even more different products.

So according to this prices wont get any better for older gen cards even if there is oversupply with massively reduced demand.

ChaitanyaSo according to this prices wont get any better for older gen cards even if there is oversupply with massively reduced demand.

Seriously??? Jay got this so wrong (like his previous ridiculous prediction that prices wouldn't go down). Nvidia are only releasing new SKUs of old cards because no-one is buying their overpriced older generation cards. It's a new coat of paint. Prices will just keep tumbling in my view as Nvidia gets more desperate to sell their stock.

Sounds like AMD may not be launching on desktop until later in 2023 as well, laptops coming first and then desktop, which IMO means we may not see the 7600XT util mid 2023.

This is sad. The entire midrange market is effectively abandoned while they slug it out with $2000 halo products.

This is why we needed Intel to succeed with ARC :mad:

wccftech.com/roundup/amd-radeon-rx-7600-xt/

They can only manipulate the market if people (fans?) continue buying their overpriced cards! Stop buying or wait for much lower prices, it's not like Nvidia is selling you anything else besides a GPU :rolleyes:

They'll have to come back down to earth when reality meets "reality distortion field" :nutkick:

RandallFlaggSounds like AMD may not be launching on desktop until later in 2023 as well, laptops coming first and then desktop, which IMO means we may not see the 7600XT util mid 2023.

This is sad. The entire midrange market is effectively abandoned while they slug it out with $2000 halo products.

This is why we needed Intel to succeed with ARC :mad:

wccftech.com/roundup/amd-radeon-rx-7600-xt/

How you come to this conclusion. Navi 31 and 32 coming first and Navi 31 launches about a month later than Lovelace. 7600XT/7700XT are Navi 32 not 33 and no one earth has claimed they are coming in late 2023, that's just absurd to even think so. They will be early 2023 for sure. Everybody launches their halo products first for juvenile dick measuring rights even though the sales of these cards is minuscule in the scheme of things.

RandallFlaggSounds like AMD may not be launching on desktop until later in 2023 as well, laptops coming first and then desktop, which IMO means we may not see the 7600XT util mid 2023.

This is sad. The entire midrange market is effectively abandoned while they slug it out with $2000 halo products.

This is why we needed Intel to succeed with ARC :mad:

wccftech.com/roundup/amd-radeon-rx-7600-xt/

Intel has given up on Arc and discrete retail GPUs, check Moore Law is Dead

I went to original post to check the tweet and in the same tweet he mentions also GA102 3070Ti:

AMD has already from time to time offers like the below for entry level models, so I'm really curious to see at what SRPs these upcoming GPUs will come!

RX 6600 $239
RX 6600 XT $299
RX 6700. $359
RX 6700 XT $399
RX 6800 XT $579

Bruno_OIntel has given up on Arc and discrete retail GPUs, check Moore Law is Dead

Wait, MLID has some credibility left?

RandallFlaggSounds like AMD may not be launching on desktop until later in 2023 as well, laptops coming first and then desktop, which IMO means we may not see the 7600XT util mid 2023.

This is sad. The entire midrange market is effectively abandoned while they slug it out with $2000 halo products.

This is why we needed Intel to succeed with ARC :mad:

wccftech.com/roundup/amd-radeon-rx-7600-xt/

I'm not even sure how much Intel stands to improve things. They might launch cheap for the 1st gen like AMD but then gradually increase prices like AMD did. We'd eventually end up back where we are not plus one additional company.

People seem to be under the impression that more market competitors = more competition but that's not always the case. Both memory manufacturers and display manufacturers have been sued int the past for behaving in a cartel like manner despite having 3+ players in the market. In fact there are many US markets with 2-3 big players that essentially consort to fix pricing as the number of competitors has rapidly decreased since the 1980s.

The problem lies in the fact that companies can price around each other so as to avoid a price war while maximizing profits. Perfect example is AMD's pricing of 6000 series GPUs. A bit cheaper but not enough to change consumer perception of the pricing of any GPU tier. AMD ultimately re-enforced Turing's pricing increases because it increases their gross margin and grooms customers to accept the higher prices.

Remember when people praised Ampere for it's pricing right after launch? That's a perfect example of effective grooming by Nvidia. People should not be thankful for companies to return halfway to normal pricing. In fact they should be appalled, especially looking at Nvidia's profits and gross margin. The ironic part is hardly anyone saw said "good" pricing as the pandemic quickly swept in shortly thereafter.

Midrange and low end cards were abandoned pretty much since the RX 500 and 10xx series. If lower end cards were to launch much later while providing less than ideal improvements over last gen cards I would not be surprised. AMD certainly has the capability to release lower-end cards sooner due to it using chiplets with RDNA3 but it will almost certainly go for maximum profits.

To me, this extreme drive for profits has really deflated a lot of fun out of PC gaming. Launches aren't a moment of excitement but an experiment to see in which ways a company will attempt to further take advantage of customers.

So what now instead of having a 3060 for $100 over MSRP there going to strip some ram and sell it for only $50 above MSRP ?

What a deal, in 2023 we will get what is essentially a 2018 era RTX 2070 for $380, what a steal :rolleyes:

What a shitshow.

To be honest, if this is true, the decision makes no sense to me whatsoever. Adding these SKUs won't improve demand in my opinion when the prices are just going to slot in between cards that are already not "flying" off the shelves. For instance, having the RTX 3060 8GB above the RTX 3050 is just going to mean that the RTX 3060 8GB is going to cost more. The RTX 3050 and 3060 currently are not very attractively priced, so what is the point of having an in between solution? Likewise, the RTX 3060 TI GDDR6X is just going to see higher power consumption, higher prices, with no meaningful improvement in performance.

watzupkenTo be honest, if this is true, the decision makes no sense to me whatsoever. Adding these SKUs won't improve demand in my opinion when the prices are just going to slot in between cards that are already not "flying" off the shelves. For instance, having the RTX 3060 8GB above the RTX 3050 is just going to mean that the RTX 3060 8GB is going to cost more. The RTX 3050 and 3060 currently are not very attractively priced, so what is the point of having an in between solution? Likewise, the RTX 3060 TI GDDR6X is just going to see higher power consumption, higher prices, with no meaningful improvement in performance.

I have already met a new 3080 Ti that was priced within ~$200 of a 3060 Ti.

Pure "midrange" lunacy.

just got a 3070 for 350€, bought 600€ in feb 2022 it'a a basic 3070 but I have a waterblock :) coming from 1080 (40% increase for same tdp ~200w)

mamaSeriously??? Jay got this so wrong (like his previous ridiculous prediction that prices wouldn't go down). Nvidia are only releasing new SKUs of old cards because no-one is buying their overpriced older generation cards. It's a new coat of paint. Prices will just keep tumbling in my view as Nvidia gets more desperate to sell their stock.

Maybe prices tumble in US, here in the EU everything is still fucked.

Seriously though, Big N has been pulling this crap for a while now and its one of the reasons I genuinely dislike them.
They dont lower prices "cuz they dont compete on price", instead they deliberately confuse consumers, create E-waste or destroy choice.
This was crap before and its crap still, shame on you Nvidia.

they already did this with 1060 6gb gddr5x, i think price was the same, but not sure.

ChaitanyaSo according to this prices wont get any better for older gen cards even if there is oversupply with massively reduced demand.

Bruno_OIntel has given up on Arc and discrete retail GPUs, check Moore Law is Dead

You guys really should lay off the social media and youtube shit. If anything distorts reality, that's it.

Both Jay and MLID are certified bullshit parrots. Whatever generates clicks for their ad revenue.

Minus InfinityHow you come to this conclusion. Navi 31 and 32 coming first and Navi 31 launches about a month later than Lovelace. 7600XT/7700XT are Navi 32 not 33 and no one earth has claimed they are coming in late 2023, that's just absurd to even think so. They will be early 2023 for sure. Everybody launches their halo products first for juvenile dick measuring rights even though the sales of these cards is minuscule in the scheme of things.

Its true when they're on shelves...

Jayz0Cents, is really a clown. Especially on this as he was insanely proven to be wrong just some weeks ago, and by the title he is just doubling down on stupid.

If nvidia is open for request, pls do a 3060\ti 12gb ddrx6.Those extra 4gb do magic with primire pro and after effects.