Good. There's literally no rational reason for making cube-shaped boxes for SKUs that don't even come with a HSF to begin with.

A little less wasted paper? Sure, I'm okay with that.

This move is quite the opposite of what competition will show people in a few days, where it is all foamy bulk.

btarunrIntel Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake" retail packaging

Are there any intel retail packaging collectors or something?

To me it only matters what's inside... :D

Cute for something that usually ends up in the trash.

DenverCute for something that usually ends up in the trash.

I am still keeping the box of my Ryzen 5 for warranty purposes. I will throw it out next year though probably.

mplayerMuPDFI am still keeping the box of my Ryzen 5 for warranty purposes. I will throw it out next year though probably.

I like to keep boxes of my hardware, have some boxes since the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro and 7800 GT days + some CPU/mobo boxes.
Idk I just don't like to throw them out and keep them as a display in my room.:oops:

ExcuseMeWtfA little less wasted paper? Sure, I'm okay with that.

It's not really about saving paper. It's about putting more retail boxes on a pallet for freight or into smaller shipping boxes.

This will be the heart of my next build!

13900K
EVGA 360mm AIO
EVGA 1300W PSU
EVGA Classified z690 motherboard
Jonsbo TR03 case
DDR5 RAM

QUANTUMPHYSICSThis will be the heart of my next build!

13900K
EVGA 360mm AIO
EVGA 1300W PSU
EVGA Classified z690 motherboard
Jonsbo TR03 case
DDR5 RAM

With a GT1030 right? :)

cvaldesIt's not really about saving paper. It's about putting more retail boxes on a pallet for freight or into smaller shipping boxes.

For Intel, it perhaps is. But I don't care what it's about for Intel. I care what's what it's about for me.

ExcuseMeWtfFor Intel, it perhaps is. But I don't care what it's about for Intel. I care what's what it's about for me.

Freight -- whether it be air, rail, sea, truck -- isn't free. Ultimately those costs are passed on to the customer.

Larger bulkier packaging means increased freight costs. You are paying for that. Be assured that everyone in the distribution chain is making sure those costs are covered.

So whether it's the manufacturer sending in a 40' container on a container ship or whoever runs the truck that delivers it to your local Best Buy store, you end up paying for that in the end.

There are also materials costs: the paper for the box, the ink for printing, the electricity to run paper mills, printing presses, cardboard cutting machines, the people who assemble these. In the end the customer ends up paying for all of this.

And this isn't specific to PC hardware. This covers everything. Efficient packaging helps reduce cost, regardless whether it's PC components, heads of lettuce, beer cans, sewing machines, the plastic lids for your espresso drink, your socks, whatever.

So maybe you should care.

Remember that as a consumer, there isn't much you can personally do to encourage companies to find efficiencies in their processes other than buying from a competitor. So when a company like Intel makes an effort to cut costs, you should appreciate it rather than dismiss it.

Because ultimately they are doing a favor for your wallet. And with most freight and manufacturing processes using fossil fuels, they are also helping the environment in a small way. So it's not just good for you the customer: it's better for everyone on this planet.

It's not just about you.

cvaldesFreight -- whether it be air, rail, sea, truck -- isn't free. Ultimately those costs are passed on to the customer.

Larger bulkier packaging means increased freight costs. You are paying for that. Be assured that everyone in the distribution chain is making sure those costs are covered.

So whether it's the manufacturer sending in a 40' container on a container ship or whoever runs the truck that delivers it to your local Best Buy store, you end up paying for that in the end.

There are also materials costs: the paper for the box, the ink for printing, the electricity to run paper mills, printing presses, cardboard cutting machines, the people who assemble these. In the end the customer ends up paying for all of this.

And this isn't specific to PC hardware. This covers everything. Efficient packaging helps reduce cost, regardless whether it's PC components, heads of lettuce, beer cans, sewing machines, the plastic lids for your espresso drink, your socks, whatever.

So maybe you should care.

Remember that as a consumer, there isn't much you can personally do to encourage companies to find efficiencies in their processes other than buying from a competitor. So when a company like Intel makes an effort to cut costs, you should appreciate it rather than dismiss it.

Because ultimately they are doing a favor for your wallet. And with most freight and manufacturing processes using fossil fuels, they are also helping the environment in a small way. So it's not just good for you the customer: it's better for everyone on this planet.

It's not just about you.

You didn't tell me anything I don't already know

I will tell you something you apparently don't know yet though: just because Intel saves costs, doesn't mean this saving is automatically passed on the customer as well.

ExcuseMeWtfYou didn't tell me anything I don't already know

I will tell you something you apparently don't know yet though: just because Intel saves costs, doesn't mean this saving is automatically passed on the customer as well.

Of course not.

But we can only hope that some of the savings are used to offset cost increases elsewhere. Because if they don't everything will get more expensive. Since it isn't obvious to you, there are other costs involved not just packaging and freight.

Based on your previous comment, it wasn't clear that you understood any of this. I'm still not sure if you get it even now.

Anyhow, if you don't like Intel saving costs on packaging, why don't you write Gelsinger a letter stating your preference for larger retail boxes? I'm sure someone in his office will read your message. Better than sulking about it on an anonymous Q&A forum.

Anyhow, if you don't like Intel saving costs on packaging

Literally my first comment you replied to was:

A little less wasted paper? Sure, I'm okay with that.

If you think that means not liking Intel happening to save some costs alongside, then it's pointless to continue from now on.


Have a nice day.

Wait for the Raptor Lake reviews before any purchase these days!


Intel Core i9-13900K Scores Top Spot As The Fastest Single-Threaded CPU In PassMark Benchmark (wccftech.com)

shovenoseWith a GT1030 right? :)

:D hahahaha