Tuesday, November 8th 2022

Noctua Introduces NA-IS1 Inlet Spacers for Suction Applications and NA-SAVG2 Gasket Set

Noctua today introduced its new NA-IS1 intake side spacer frames for suction or "pull" type applications where fans draw air through obstacles such as grills, perforated plates, mesh panels, filters or radiators. By offsetting the fan from the obstacle, the NA-IS1 can significantly reduce influx turbulences and thereby help to improve both acoustics and performance. In addition, Noctua also introduced the NA-SAVG2 anti-vibration gasket set for using 140 mm fans on water cooling radiators or other applications that benefit from a tighter seal with the fan.

"Intake applications where fans draw air through obstacles such as grills or perforated panels are notoriously challenging both from an aerodynamic and from an acoustic point of view due to the massive turbulences that are caused by these objects", explains Roland Mossig (Noctua CEO). "These influx turbulences can have a significant impact on fan acoustics and performance, so we have created the NA-IS1 spacer frames that give customers a simple yet highly effective solution to reduce these turbulences and thereby make fans more efficient in suction type applications."
Introducing a 5 mm offset between the fan and the obstacle, the NA-IS1 spacers can reduce influx turbulences significantly, which not only improves acoustics but also helps fans to operate more efficiently from an airflow performance point of view because the fan blades are less hampered by turbulence. In many suction type applications, using inlet spacers can therefore enable fans to achieve higher flow rates and lower noise emissions at the same time.

For example, in controlled testing on a perforated panel with a typical circular hole pattern, the tested 140 and 120mm fans showed an average reduction in noise levels of around 2dB(A) and an average increase in flow rate of around 4.4m³/h. While the results will vary between different fans models and applications depending on factors such as the exact shape and structure of the obstacle, fan speed and flow resistance, the improvements are significant in most cases.

Available in 14 cm (NA-IS1-14 Sx2) and 12 cm (NA-IS1-12 Sx2) sizes, the NA-IS1 are compatible with all current square-frame Noctua 120x25mm and 140x25mm models. Designed to replace the fans' stock NA-AVP1 anti-vibration pads, the spacer frames are extremely straightforward to install: For case fan applications, either the supplied self-tapping screws or the included NA-AV3 anti-vibration mounts can be used to sandwich the spacer between the fan and the case panel. For radiator mounting, both M3 and UNC 6-32 screws are supplied. Each set includes two spacer frames plus the matching anti-vibration mounts, fan screws and radiator screws.

In sum, the NA-IS1 inlet spacers are a simple yet highly effective fine-tuning measure for suction type applications where a reduction of influx turbulence can lead to improved airflow and acoustics. The chromax.black variants are a perfect match for black chromax or industrialPPC line fans.

In addition to the NA-IS1 inlet spacers, Noctua also introduced the new NA-AVG2 anti-vibration gasket for using 140 mm fans on water cooling radiators or other applications that benefit from a tighter seal with the fan. Like the NA-AVG1 for 120 mm fans, the NA-AVG2 is made from extra soft yet highly tear-proof silicone rubber and helps to dampen minute vibrations as well as to reduce air loss between the fan and the radiator. As such, it is an ideal accessory for performance enthusiasts who want to squeeze out those extra few percent of cooling efficiency. The NA-SAVG2 set contains three NA-AVG2 gaskets.

For more information, visit the following pages:Suggested retail prices
The manufacturer's suggested retail prices are as follows:
  • NA-IS1 (all versions): EUR/USD 14.90
  • NA-SAVG2 (all versions): EUR/USD 9.90
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28 Comments on Noctua Introduces NA-IS1 Inlet Spacers for Suction Applications and NA-SAVG2 Gasket Set

#1
Chaitanya
Silicone gaskets can be found for under $1 on any online retailer.
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Solid State Brain
I wonder if the spacers would solve the droning issues some people have reported when using NF-A14 fans as inlet fans in their PC cases. I never purchased them due to this.
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#3
Dirt Chip
Noctua looks at the rumbling croud of sophisticated proprietary daisy chain fans, LED aRGB blades that trash airflow and acustic and sync 'infinity' lightning of all shpes and kinds that gives you the look but not the preformance, smile and go the opposit direction.
Well done :cool:
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#4
Valantar
ChaitanyaSilicone gaskets can be found for under $1 on any online retailer.
Yes, and these are $10 for a version that fits your fans perfectly, unlike the floppy mess that is the universal ones (which are also often a poor fit for anything with a non-square frame). I don't see the problem. More choice = more betterer!
Solid State BrainI wonder if the spacers would solve the droning issues some people have reported when using NF-A14 fans as inlet fans in their PC cases. I never purchased them due to this.
If that drone is due to turbulence from the fan blades being too close to a grating or mesh, then it definitely could.

Overall, another set of useful (if a tad pricy) products from Noctua. Good to see - but now get to launching that updated 140mm fan, please?
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#5
Dirt Chip
Valantarbut now get to launching that updated 140mm fan, please?
This!
I`m also waiting, hope they will do a 3 pack this time.
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#6
cowcatwithahat
I think this a good addition to their product line and hopefully will be included by default in some of their cooler kits.
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#7
Valantar
cowcatwithahatI think this a good addition to their product line and hopefully will be included by default in some of their cooler kits.
Neither of these products are for use with coolers though - the gasket is for use on radiators, and the frame is for case-mounted fans. It's possible that the gasket could have some effect on a very dense HSF, but few tower coolers have that much flow restriction, and mounting that spacer frame to a cooler would be either impossible without custom brackets (rear fan of a dual fan cooler), or useless (front fan on any tower cooler).
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#8
Chrispy_
For applications where pull is required rather than push, I use a spacer wherever possible.

These thin gaskets are nearly useless. What you want is a 25mm sealed spacer, and the easiest way to get those is to do what I've been doing for 25+ years:

Take an old, worn-out fan of the same size, and snip the four thin plasic supports for the hub away. Voila instant spacer with pre-drilled holes on both sides in exactly the right positions for screw holes, fan clips etc.

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#9
TheDeeGee
Solid State BrainI wonder if the spacers would solve the droning issues some people have reported when using NF-A14 fans as inlet fans in their PC cases. I never purchased them due to this.
I think it depends on the how the front intake of the case is designed. Fractal for example has bars in between which will make the sound a lot worse with the 140mm fans.

I'm not sure 5mm will make a difference then, feels like they need to be atleast 15-20mm to reduce that noise.
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#10
Valantar
Chrispy_For applications where pull is required rather than push, I use a spacer wherever possible.

These thin gaskets are nearly useless. What you want is a 25mm sealed spacer, and the easiest way to get those is to do what I've been doing for 25+ years:

Take an old, worn-out fan of the same size, and snip the four thin plasic supports for the hub away. Voila instant spacer with pre-drilled holes on both sides in exactly the right positions for screw holes, fan clips etc.

That's a nice hack, but not everyone has dead fans lying around - and not everyone has 25mm of free space either. Those 5mm spacers seem like a great compromise. The gaskets aren't meant for spacing anything out, just for sealing off the edges of the fans against the radiator, improving pressure and hopefully flow through the rad.
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#11
sephiroth117
I really to see their 140mm fan and their next-gen NH-D15 next year alongside the 7600X3D-7800X3D that I will certainly pick up:).
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#12
Dirt Chip
Spacers also increase the distance\clearance (X) that contribute a lot to the fan efficiency:

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#13
londiste
Solid State BrainI wonder if the spacers would solve the droning issues some people have reported when using NF-A14 fans as inlet fans in their PC cases. I never purchased them due to this.
Depends on the case but yes. I had similar issues with one of the older Noctua models and honeycomb on some old Fractal case. After putting spacers in between the droning stopped.
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#14
TheDeeGee
sephiroth117I really to see their 140mm fan and their next-gen NH-D15 next year alongside the 7600X3D-7800X3D that I will certainly pick up:).
The new D15 will be smaller they said on reddit a little while ago, but with 7 heatpipes instead.
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#15
Chrispy_
ValantarThat's a nice hack, but not everyone has dead fans lying around - and not everyone has 25mm of free space either. Those 5mm spacers seem like a great compromise. The gaskets aren't meant for spacing anything out, just for sealing off the edges of the fans against the radiator, improving pressure and hopefully flow through the rad.
Those Noctua spacers cost 10x more than silicone rubber gaskets that have been on sale for 3 decades already.

Those Noctua spacers also cost 3x more than cheap fans that you can cut the blades out of. You don't need old fans lying around, that's just the least wasteful way of doing it.

IMO the only reason to buy them is because you are unsettlingly in love with the traditional turd and weak-piss colour scheme Noctua uses.
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#16
Dirt Chip
Chrispy_Those Noctua spacers cost 10x more than silicone rubber gaskets that have been on sale for 3 decades already.

Those Noctua spacers also cost 3x more than cheap fans that you can cut the blades out of. You don't need old fans lying around, that's just the least wasteful way of doing it.

IMO the only reason to buy them is because you are unsettlingly in love with the traditional turd and weak-piss colour scheme Noctua uses.
This, or you are very much into cooling preformance and near silent experience.
To me the extra silence and 100% computability might worth extra 10-20$ for the long run.
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#17
Chrispy_
Dirt ChipTo me the extra silence and 100% compatibility might worth extra 10-20$ for the long run.
Extra silence? I very much doubt the silicone Noctua is using is some magical space-age super polymer finely honed over decades of research into the best noise-damping silicone ever developed.

No, it's just regular old silicone rubber with their brown & beige dye thrown in. The rest of the spacer is just regular fan-frame plastic and they've thrown a couple of silly pins into each corner to make the "proprietary" but to use them with other brands of fan, just snap them off - or buy literally anything else a vastly lower prices because these commodity parts have been available from numerous brands in regular black abs plastic over the last couple of decades for next to nothing. You could spray them with brown paint if you really wanted to...
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#18
Franzen4Real
Chrispy_For applications where pull is required rather than push, I use a spacer wherever possible.

These thin gaskets are nearly useless. What you want is a 25mm sealed spacer, and the easiest way to get those is to do what I've been doing for 25+ years:

Take an old, worn-out fan of the same size, and snip the four thin plasic supports for the hub away. Voila instant spacer with pre-drilled holes on both sides in exactly the right positions for screw holes, fan clips etc.

I’m guessing— are you an old school Martins Liquid Labs enjoyer? Your post and pics took me back to the day of reading through Martin’s test result breakdowns on the benefits of using shrouds in push, pull, push/pull etc. Now that this is in my head, I’m curious to go looking to see if he broke it down by spacer thickness. I can’t imagine 5mm is going to do anything impressive for cooling, but it may help with acoustics in some cases (not due to vibration absorption, but creating space between the fan blade and case/filter or whatever)
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#19
Valantar
Chrispy_Those Noctua spacers cost 10x more than silicone rubber gaskets that have been on sale for 3 decades already.
Yes, and those floppy silicon gaskets in my experience tend to fit very poorly and are a nightmare to install - and squeeze out from between the fan and rad at the slightest pressure. These should at least align perfectly with the fan frame, and if they're using Noctua's typical rubber they'll be a lot stiffer and easier to install than the typical silicon ones.

Wotth 10x the cost? Not if you care about value, obviously. But that isn't Noctua's market.
Chrispy_Those Noctua spacers also cost 3x more than cheap fans that you can cut the blades out of. You don't need old fans lying around, that's just the least wasteful way of doing it.
Exactly. IMO it's well worth paying a bit more for less waste, especially if you're also pressed for space, which many will be when comparing this to a 25mm fan frame.
Chrispy_the traditional turd and weak-piss colour scheme Noctua uses.
If your piss looks anything like the light beige on Noctua's fans you need to go see a doctor.
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#20
TechLurker
Franzen4RealI’m guessing— are you an old school Martins Liquid Labs enjoyer? Your post and pics took me back to the day of reading through Martin’s test result breakdowns on the benefits of using shrouds in push, pull, push/pull etc. Now that this is in my head, I’m curious to go looking to see if he broke it down by spacer thickness. I can’t imagine 5mm is going to do anything impressive for cooling, but it may help with acoustics in some cases (not due to vibration absorption, but creating space between the fan blade and case/filter or whatever)
If I'm not misremembering old testing from Martin's and other early liquid-cooling forums of the past, the optimal minimum distance for airflow/cooling was something like 15mm for conventional sized fan hubs and something like 20mm for GT-esque (or server-grade) large hub fans for push or pull reasons. Basically had to do with allowing enough airflow to avoid the "dead spots" immediately in front of or behind the fan blades. The problem was that naturally, they added bulk to radiator setups, so most no one used them aside from the hardcore. 25mm spacing was considered ideal given it allowed enough airflow around the dead spots and was a standard case fan size (hence cutting up old or super-cheap case fans and just puttying closed the wire hole gap in the corner). The most serious of liquid cooling enthusiasts also insisted on using thin foam strips to seal up the edges of the spacers, ensuring a vacuum-like effect in pull operations and no air leak in push operations. Returns diminished roughly after 35-50mm of spacing in push configs (dependent on fan pressure potential) while remained mostly consistent in pull configs, provided an airtight seal.

Acoustics depended on the materials used for the spacers; some hardcore "ghetto" mods just used 10mm tall closed-seal foam strips with the fan just pressed down over them with long threaded rods and nuts, while others used cardboard or even foam glued to the interior of spacers to reduce noise. The main weakness was vibration-dampening the fans themselves; a number of hardcore enthusiasts used hard foam or rubber washers to press the fan down the long rods used to hold the whole assembly together.

The cheaper alternative was just to buy a fat radiator and let there be more fin stack and more air exposure for cooling than buying a slimmer radiator but optimizing airflow. As well, American-designed radiators favored high fin density, making static pressure fans a must, vs the European radiators which favored lower fin density but could run with less-optimal fan options (but also resulted in worse average performance in old radiator testing depending on the fans used).
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#21
DrCR
ValantarIf that drone is due to turbulence from the fan blades being too close to a grating or mesh, then it definitely could.
^ why some Weiss snips should be part of every performance-oriented computer builder’s toolkit.
Chrispy_do what I've been doing for 25+ years
That just made me feel old. But those were fun times for PCers.
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#22
maxfly
What once was old is new again. Next they'll be selling customized rad shrouds.
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#23
Chrispy_
Franzen4RealI’m guessing— are you an old school Martins Liquid Labs enjoyer? Your post and pics took me back to the day of reading through Martin’s test result breakdowns on the benefits of using shrouds in push, pull, push/pull etc. Now that this is in my head, I’m curious to go looking to see if he broke it down by spacer thickness. I can’t imagine 5mm is going to do anything impressive for cooling, but it may help with acoustics in some cases (not due to vibration absorption, but creating space between the fan blade and case/filter or whatever)
Never heard of Martin's Liquid Labs. I just did that as the most obvious way to make a spacer. Back in the beige case days, cooling was terrible - we drilled 80mm holes everywhere and added our own fan holes, built ducts from anything we could find and glued it all together with hot-snot glue gun. I was a SharkyExtreme and VR-Zone reader in the beginning.
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#24
maxfly
Chrispy_Never heard of Martin's Liquid Labs. I just did that as the most obvious way to make a spacer. Back in the beige case days, cooling was terrible - we drilled 80mm holes everywhere and added our own fan holes, built ducts from anything we could find and glued it all together with hot-snot glue gun. I was a SharkyExtreme and VR-Zone reader in the beginning.
Martin was the the wcing guru that began actually testing theories rather than assuming. There are still some pages of his work available out there.

A lot of what we do today in wcing is owed to his work.

martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com/
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#25
claes
Martin and SPCR were huge losses to the PC review market. I guess GN is trying and VSG is still around, but no one is experimenting and theorizing the way those two were.
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