Friday, December 2nd 2022
AMD Readies 16-core, 12-core, and 8-core Ryzen 7000X3D "Zen 4" Processors
AMD is firing full cylinders to release a new line of Ryzen 7000-series "Zen 4" Socket AM5 desktop processors featuring 3D Vertical Cache, at the earliest. Faced with a significant drop in demand due to the slump in the PC industry, and renewed competition from Intel in the form of its 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" processors, the company is looking to launch the Ryzen 7000X3D desktop processors within January 2023, with product unveiling expected at AMD's 2023 International CES event. The 3D Vertical Cache technology had a profound impact on the gaming performance of the older "Zen 3" architecture, bringing it up to levels competitive with those of the 12th Gen Core "Alder Lake" processors, and while gaming performance of the Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" processors launched till take match or beat "Alder Lake," they fall behind those of the 13th Gen "Raptor Lake," which is exactly what AMD hopes to remedy with the Ryzen 7000X3D series.
In a report, Korean tech publication Quasar Zone states that AMD is planning to release 16-core/32-thread, 12-core/24-thread, and 8-core/16-thread SKUs in the Ryzen 7000X3D series. These would use one or two "Zen 4" chiplets with stacked 3D Vertical Cache memory. A large amount of cache memory operating at the same speed as the on-die L3 cache, is made contiguous with it and stacked on top of the region of the CCD (chiplet) that has the L3 cache, while the region with the CPU cores has structural silicon that conveys heat to the surface. On "Zen 3," the 32 MB on-die cache is appended with 64 MB of stacked cache memory operating at the same speed, giving the processor 96 MB of L3 cache that's uniformly accessible by all CPU cores on the CCD. This large cache memory positively impacts gaming performance on the Ryzen 7 5800X3D in comparison to the 5800X; and a similar uplift is expected for the 7000X3D series over their regular 7000-series counterparts.
The naming of these 7000X3D series SKUs is uncertain. It's possible that the 16-core part is called the 7950X3D, and the 12-core part 7900X3D; but the 8-core part may either be called the 7700X3D or 7800X3D. Quasar Zone also posted some theoretical performance projections for the 7950X3D based on the kind of performance uplifts 3DV cache yielded for "Zen 3" in the 5800X3D. According to these, the theoretical 7950X3D would easily match or beat the gaming performance of the Core i9-13900K, which begins to explain why Intel is scampering to launch the faster Core i9-13900KS with a boost frequency of 6.00 GHz or higher. The report also confirms that there won't be a 6-core/12-thread 7600X3D as previously thought.
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harukaze5719 (Twitter)
In a report, Korean tech publication Quasar Zone states that AMD is planning to release 16-core/32-thread, 12-core/24-thread, and 8-core/16-thread SKUs in the Ryzen 7000X3D series. These would use one or two "Zen 4" chiplets with stacked 3D Vertical Cache memory. A large amount of cache memory operating at the same speed as the on-die L3 cache, is made contiguous with it and stacked on top of the region of the CCD (chiplet) that has the L3 cache, while the region with the CPU cores has structural silicon that conveys heat to the surface. On "Zen 3," the 32 MB on-die cache is appended with 64 MB of stacked cache memory operating at the same speed, giving the processor 96 MB of L3 cache that's uniformly accessible by all CPU cores on the CCD. This large cache memory positively impacts gaming performance on the Ryzen 7 5800X3D in comparison to the 5800X; and a similar uplift is expected for the 7000X3D series over their regular 7000-series counterparts.
153 Comments on AMD Readies 16-core, 12-core, and 8-core Ryzen 7000X3D "Zen 4" Processors
$450 7800x3d, $599 7900 X3D, and $799 7950x3d
e-peen incoming
Anything above these mid-range options is strictly for high refresh 4k gamers imo.
that being said, I might be stupid and get a 7900 xtx :D
Besides, "sucks" is an exaggeration, its performance is 97.5 % of the 5800X.
Since its still 8 cores per die, they could even do a 2x6 core version with 2 cores disabled on each die but the full cache, and have an efficiency/gaming monster
I don't know why not the 7950X3D unless it clocks lower than the 7800X3D - full power of 32 threads with plenty of L3. If inter CCD latency is an issue just play with process lasso.
No worries, there's a way out: don't buy it. :D
And I still don't buy that whole "people only use their CPU for productivity OR gaming" nonsense.
5800X3D is still selling quiet high in some places about the same price has the 7700X here in local markets.
From a business point of view I would not make a 5600X3D or 7600X3D. You would be hurting your higher priced SKUs.
Lets see if there are any improvements VS the first ZEN 3 X3D maybe better clocks and overclocking on these new ZEN 4 X3Ds vs the 5800X3D lower clocks.