Wednesday, December 21st 2022
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7000WX "Storm Peak" Only by Q3-2023
AMD won't release its Ryzen Threadripper 7000WX "Storm Peak" workstation processors any time before September 2023, suggests a reliable source with AMD leaks. The push to Q3 probably has to do with giving AMD enough "Zen 4" CCD volumes to ship high-margin EPYC "Genoa" server processors first, before the company can turn its attention to the HEDT and workstation markets.
While all indications are that AMD give the "Zen 4" Threadripper a similar treatment this generation as it did with the "Zen 3," by confining it to the workstation segment with only Threadripper 7000WX SKUs that could be OEM-exclusives before crawling their way to the retail market; the source has an interesting theory, that the company could even target the client HEDT market with these chips. The company will also adequately segment the Threadripper 7000WX SKUs apart from EPYC "Genoa" processors.For starters, the 7000WX "Storm Peak" series could ship with a narrower 8-channel (16 sub-channel) DDR5 memory interface, compared to the 12-channel (24 sub-channel) DDR5 interface of EPYC "Genoa." The alleged client HEDT Threadripper 7000X series SKUs, on the other hand, could feature a 4-channel (8 sub-channel) DDR5 interface, which would still end up double those of the Ryzen 7000 "Raphael" and 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake-S" processors with their 2-channel (4 sub-channel) DDR5 interfaces. Similarly, the 7000WX chips allegedly get the full 128-lane PCIe Gen 5 interface, while the 7000X HEDT chips get a narrow 64-lane PCIe Gen 5 interface.
Whether AMD even launches client HEDT SKUs will depend largely on what Intel does in this segment. There are rumors that the company could release HEDT SKUs based on a variant of "Sapphire Rapids" with a slimmer I/O feature set than Xeon Scalable processors (fewer PCIe Gen 5 lanes, no CXL, etc).
Sources:
chi11eddog (Twitter), Cowcotland, Videocardz
While all indications are that AMD give the "Zen 4" Threadripper a similar treatment this generation as it did with the "Zen 3," by confining it to the workstation segment with only Threadripper 7000WX SKUs that could be OEM-exclusives before crawling their way to the retail market; the source has an interesting theory, that the company could even target the client HEDT market with these chips. The company will also adequately segment the Threadripper 7000WX SKUs apart from EPYC "Genoa" processors.For starters, the 7000WX "Storm Peak" series could ship with a narrower 8-channel (16 sub-channel) DDR5 memory interface, compared to the 12-channel (24 sub-channel) DDR5 interface of EPYC "Genoa." The alleged client HEDT Threadripper 7000X series SKUs, on the other hand, could feature a 4-channel (8 sub-channel) DDR5 interface, which would still end up double those of the Ryzen 7000 "Raphael" and 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake-S" processors with their 2-channel (4 sub-channel) DDR5 interfaces. Similarly, the 7000WX chips allegedly get the full 128-lane PCIe Gen 5 interface, while the 7000X HEDT chips get a narrow 64-lane PCIe Gen 5 interface.
Whether AMD even launches client HEDT SKUs will depend largely on what Intel does in this segment. There are rumors that the company could release HEDT SKUs based on a variant of "Sapphire Rapids" with a slimmer I/O feature set than Xeon Scalable processors (fewer PCIe Gen 5 lanes, no CXL, etc).
13 Comments on AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7000WX "Storm Peak" Only by Q3-2023
Zen 3 Threadripper was launched on March 8 2022, 502 days after the first Zen 3 cpus.
If Zen 4 Threadripper is launched in Q3 2023, is would be between 277 and 368 days after the first Zen 4 cpus.
Epyc - SP5 (LGA6096)
TR Pro - sWRX10 (LGA6096)
TR - sTRX5 (LGA6096) or maybe sTRX6 (LGA4844)
I dont like nvidia for many reasons, but they do release the latest and greatest first (saving a full chip, in case) then walk their way down.
AMD should do the same thing, new core on Epy/ThreadRipper first, then Ryzens.
But not 300 + days after, a couple of months tops.
Why would they wait for Intel in the hedt sector? Intel? You've got to be kidding me. AMD should OWN hedt in every way, shape and form but we'll wait to see what big brother does first. Brilliant.
Yes, it's unfortunate for small group that want Thread ripper, but anyone that genuinely needs anything like what it offers is truly better served by the Pro product.2 56GB of RAM in quad channel is not enough for most things you would need the core density for. Even Ryzen is a bit starved for memory bandwidth. It didn't even make sense to put RDNA in an APU before DDR5. If you really truly need all those PCIe lanes, then the data you're handling still benefits from the platform improvements.
I will keep my current 3975 or consider going to a 3995. Right now, I do not see the value of jumping up the 5995WX.
I have seen the 399Wx for about $3000. So will see how this all pans out!