Monday, January 9th 2023

MSI Afterburner Developer Hasn't been Paid for a Year, Product Development in Limbo

MSI Afterburner is arguably the most popular graphics card overclocking utility that everyone from gamers to professional overclockers swear by. It is used across graphics card brands, and helps you tune up both NVIDIA and AMD GPUs. While you enjoy Afterburner with your new-generation GeForce RTX 40-series "Ada" and Radeon RX 7000 series RDNA3 GPUs that were released in 2022, do remember that Afterburner's developer hasn't been paid a penny for it.

MSI Afterburner is developed by Russian national Alexey Nicolaychuk, who goes by the name Unwinder across tech forums. Following the Russian invasion of Ukraine in early-2022, MSI stopped payments to Unwinder citing "political reasons." Unwinder had been independently (read: without payment) supporting Afterburner out of personal interest throughout 2022 in hopes that MSI would figure out a way to pay him. Interestingly, MSI PC hardware continued to be sold in the Russian market throughout 2022. Despite continuing to develop Afterburner throughout 2022 without payment, MSI hasn't resolved its payments. In a community post, Unwinder announced that he is finally calling it quits, and is halting development of the app. This development ensures that the app works reliably with new GPUs as they're being launched, fixes bugs, and patches security issues.
War and politics are the reasons. I didn't mention it in MSI Afterburner development news thread, but the project is semi abandoned by company during quite a long time already. Actually we're approaching one year mark since the day when MSI stopped performing their obligations under Afterburner license agreement due to "politic situation". I tried to continue performing my obligations and worked on the project on my own during the last 11 months, but it resulted in nothing but disappointment; I have a feeling that I'm just beating a dead horse and waste energy on something that is no longer needed by company. Anyway I'll try to continue supporting it myself while I have some free time, but will probably need to drop it and switch to something else, allowing me to pay my bills.
MSI Afterburner is an important tool used not just for its overclocking features and monitoring on the app's UI, but the in-game overlay feature (ability to have GPU and other real-time stats overlaid on top of game streams). Discontinuation of Afterburner could potentially affect millions of game streamers that rely on this feature. Unwinder clarified that he will continue to support RivaTuner Statistics Server (RTSS), the backend component that makes Afterburner overlay work.

The discontinuation of Afterburner would place the whole graphics card overclocking field in jeopardy. The second most popular app, EVGA Precision X has effectively been discontinued, with the company's exit from the graphics card business; and now the Unwinder-developed Afterburner stares at an uncertain future, too. MSI's reasons for not paying Unwinder are debatable. There are several civilian payment channels to Russia still open. There are also neutral countries like India, which have direct settlement of Russian Rubles without involving US Dollars or SWIFT. MSI India, for example, sells graphics cards for Indian Rupees, and uses Indian banks that can settle Russian Ruble payments to Unwinder on behalf of MSI. Perfectly legal ways to pay Unwinder exist. Unwinder and Afterburner are two precious jewels for the DIY PC enthusiast community, and we hope MSI can sort this out, pay Unwinder his arrears for 2022, and fund continued development of Afterburner.

Update 15:53 UTC: MSI in a statement to Hassan Mujtaba of Wcctech says:
Our product marketing & accounting team are dealing with this problem now. Due to the war, our payment couldn't transfer to the author's bank account successfully. We are still keeping in touch with him and figuring out how to solve this
We will be periodically checking with Unwinder on whether he has been paid.
Source: Unwinder (Guru3D Forums)
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136 Comments on MSI Afterburner Developer Hasn't been Paid for a Year, Product Development in Limbo

#26
watzupken
TheDeeGeeI'd say stop making updates then, let MSI feel it.

We all know the majority of the Russians can't be held responsible for what's going on, MSI is being stupid.

That said, overclocking in 2023 is overrated anyways.
I agree with your second sentence, but the problem is that there is no way to pay them using conventional means. You can't transfer fund because SWIFT is off limits, and most banks would have put any Russian entity in some sort of sanction list.

For me, Afterburner is less about overclocking and more about undervolting. There are a lot of overclocking tools out there for Nvidia cards, but there's little or no option when it comes to easy undervolting.
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#27
Kohl Baas
Ferrum MasterNo it is not, thus we have to end here.

I wonder why he ain't mobilized to serve his nation also. Maybe not yet.
I possibly in the dark here, but AFAIK Russia still handles this as "Special Operations" unwilling to acknowledge it being a war. And that creates some legal nuances. One of those nuances is that they can't mobilize/conscript civilians into the army. They can only mobilize the reservists which they did months ago.
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#28
londiste
watzupkenthe problem is that there is no way to pay them using conventional means. You can't transfer fund because SWIFT is off limits, and most banks would have put any Russian entity in some sort of sanction list.
This. The problem is not that MSI is not willing to pay. It is quite complicated to get the payment to someone in Russia, more so for a big corporation. Banks and transfers are sanctioned by western countries and then counter-sanctioned by Russia itself. Plus, some not so nice rules for Russians receiving money abroad, especially in foreign currencies - involving costs, taxation and other niceties that a country can wield.
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#29
stimpy88
Why can't MSi pay him in product, which he could then sell himself? These Asian companies are always bad when it comes to payments. Personal experience, before people chime in with nasty comments.

And if I were him, I'd give them a deadline, then remove their name and anything belonging to MSi, then relaunch it, release it as open source, call it GFX Afterburner, make the IT press, like this site announce it, and ask for public donations for support, and pray his country comes to its senses, so normal business can resume.
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#30
Metroid
He could develop another app with the same functionality and getting donations for it, there are many devs who do that. What MSI did it here was bad any way you look, people need to get paid if they are doing the work.
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#31
TheinsanegamerN
One the one hand I fell bad for this guy, screwed over by both his own government and by MSI, OTOH I will never understand why people ever work past the first missed paycheck. The moment my pay is cut my work flat out STOPS. End of story.
Kohl BaasI possibly in the dark here, but AFAIK Russia still handles this as "Special Operations" unwilling to acknowledge it being a war. And that creates some legal nuances. One of those nuances is that they can't mobilize/conscript civilians into the army. They can only mobilize the reservists which they did months ago.
Words dont mean anything anymore. Being a "special operation" didnt stop russia from enacting partial mobilization, which included the disabled and the old, allegedly 350,000 from outside the reservist force.
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#32
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
Yet another victim of Putin's psychopathic war in Ukraine. Of course, it pales into insignificance compared to the death and destruction that he continues to rain down on Ukraine for no good reason, but it's still yet another negative from this war.

The fact that MSI could pay this developer in other ways, but chooses not to is secondary, the point is that Putin's war caused this issue. MSI may well have good reasons to severe all ties with someone based in Russia that they don't wanna say.

I'm surmising here, but it could be that they don't trust anyone from Russia not to add malware to the product in case they've been leaned on by the Kremlin. That's millions of computers that could potentially be infected if that happens and they don't wanna be responsible for it.
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#33
TheinsanegamerN
qubitYet another victim of Putin's psychopathic war in Ukraine. Of course, it pales into insignificance compared to the death and destruction that he continues to rain down on Ukraine for no good reason, but it's still yet another negative from this war.

The fact that MSI could pay this developer in other ways, but chooses not to is secondary, the point is that Putin's war caused this issue. MSI may well have good reasons to severe all ties with someone based in Russia that they don't wanna say.

I'm surmising here, but it could be that they don't trust anyone from Russia not to add malware to the product in case they've been leaned on by the Kremlin. That's millions of computers that could potentially be infected if that happens and they don't wanna be responsible for it.
OR, or, its just another multi million dollar corporation using a convenient political occurrence to screw over the little guy and steal his work, and nothing to do with Kremlin cyberhacking.
watzupkenI agree with your second sentence, but the problem is that there is no way to pay them using conventional means. You can't transfer fund because SWIFT is off limits, and most banks would have put any Russian entity in some sort of sanction list.

For me, Afterburner is less about overclocking and more about undervolting. There are a lot of overclocking tools out there for Nvidia cards, but there's little or no option when it comes to easy undervolting.
SWIFT is not the only payment system on earth, and you forget russia is a founding member of BRICS. There are surely ways that MSI india/china/brazil ece, for example, could pay him through BRICS without running afoul of sanctions. It happens every day. Both india and china are regularly buying oil and grain from russia and russia is buying chips and metal from india/china without issue.
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#34
phanbuey
This is a tragedy as is everything related to this war.

He needs to get out - there is another mass mobilization coming very soon.
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#35
Hakker
thewanBefore anyone starts suggesting donations, patreons, kofis ,etc, note that the dev has licensing agreement with MSI. While MSI has not kept up with the agreement on their side, it doesn't mean the dev can just take the source code, let alone the name MSI Afterburner which is what everyone recognizes, and just start publishing it on his own. Accepting payments from other sources would be against the licensing agreement from his side. That will make him be on the wrong side of the law and will allow MSI to bring him to court. The only thing he could do now is stop developing it.
Considering it's nothing more than a branded version of Rivatuner I expect Rivatuner to be back slapped on the software and being developed independantly again. Unless he made a very bad deal where all the code is all of a sudden belonging to MSI which I doubt since Rivatuner was also bundled with EVGA cards in the past. Then MSI will fall short and be without software. MSI should clap in their hands he would go so far to keep updating it out of his own pocket, but all that said this isn't the first scummy thing MSI has done the past few years.
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#36
bug
TheinsanegamerNOR, or, its just another multi million dollar corporation using a convenient political occurrence to screw over the little guy and steal his work, and nothing to do with Kremlin cyberhacking.


SWIFT is not the only payment system on earth, and you forget russia is a founding member of BRICS. There are surely ways that MSI india/china/brazil ece, for example, could pay him through BRICS without running afoul of sanctions. It happens every day. Both india and china are regularly buying oil and grain from russia and russia is buying chips and metal from india/china without issue.
Of course there are ways. If you were running a multi-million business, would you expose yourself to millions in sanctions to pay one guy? No matter how important that guy was.
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#37
trsttte
bugOf course there are ways. If you were running a multi-million business, would you expose yourself to millions in sanctions to pay one guy? No matter how important that guy was.
That's one of the secondary ways in which sanctions work, even if you could legally do something without circunventing sanctions things can change very fast with very high cost so it's safer to just cut ties.
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#38
Wirko
londisteThis. The problem is not that MSI is not willing to pay. It is quite complicated to get the payment to someone in Russia, more so for a big corporation. Banks and transfers are sanctioned by western countries and then counter-sanctioned by Russia itself. Plus, some not so nice rules for Russians receiving money abroad, especially in foreign currencies - involving costs, taxation and other niceties that a country can wield.
MSI selling their products in Russia means that they have a subsidiary there, or some other kind of legal entity which represents them. (According to this document, it appears to be an "indirect subsidiary".) That company sure has the means, and the funds, to pay Mr. Nicolaychuk.
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#39
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
TheinsanegamerNOR, or, its just another multi million dollar corporation using a convenient political occurrence to screw over the little guy and steal his work, and nothing to do with Kremlin cyberhacking.
I don't think so because it lowers their credibility and reputation.

One way or another, this wouldn't have happened if Putin hadn't started this insane war, that's the important part.
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#40
bug
WirkoMSI selling their products in Russia means that they have a subsidiary there, or some other kind of legal entity which represents them. (According to this document, it appears to be an "indirect subsidiary".) That company sure has the means, and the funds, to pay Mr. Nicolaychuk.
MSI probably only have a business setup over there. Software is a different animal. I'm pretty sure whatever software MSI offers, is still subject to export regulations/restrictions, so even accepting Unwinder's code may be under fire at this point.
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#41
natr0n
He is a genius and should be compensated for great work he has done.
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#42
ir_cow
Wow MSI really messed up here. That overclock community marking is now gone. Just waiting this guy is picked up by another big brand and it will be called ASRock Afterburner lol.
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#43
bug
ir_cowWow MSI really messed up here. That overclock community marking is now gone. Just waiting this guy is picked up by another big brand and it will be called ASRock Afterburner lol.
MSI has sold card way before Afterburner, it will continue to do so without it.

Fwiw, I don't even like MSI. I just don't like companies taking flak just because.
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#44
ir_cow
bugMSI has sold card way before Afterburner, it will continue to do so without it.

Fwiw, I don't even like MSI. I just don't like companies taking flak just because.
There loss. I known plenty of people who buy MSI cards for MSI afterburner (even though it's universal) same for the eVGA Precision X. If MSI didn't like the software, why was it always promoted on their websites for video cards eh?
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#45
bonehead123
From the movie Goodfellas:

"Business bad? F you, pay me"
"Oh, you had a fire? F you, pay me"
"Place got hit by lightning ? F you, pay me”
"The commies declared war on Ukraine, F you, pay me"


Pss... I added that last one just to make a point :D
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#46
bug
ir_cowThere loss. I known plenty of people who buy MSI cards for MSI afterburner (even though it's universal) same for the eVGA Precision X. If MSI didn't like the software, why was it always promoted on their websites for video cards eh?
Who said MSI didn't like the software? The software simply comes from a part of the world with which is very difficult to have commercial relations these days. There's nothing complicated or malicious going on here.

Who knows, maybe the fix will come from Mr Putin himself. It's expected he will try to bring another half-million people to arms, maybe this prompts Unwinder to set up camp elsewhere.
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#47
Zaqq
MSI PC hardware continued to be sold in the Russian market throughout 2022.
But how do they pay for support, rma, marketing?
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#48
Exilarch
There are thousands of American companies doing business in Russia right now. I know, because one of the companies I work for is investing heavily in Russia right now. The Biden administration just gave a "recommendation" of not supporting Russia's business and somewhere around 15% of all American companies decided to pull the plug on their operations there. The big bucks are still in energy business and tons and tons in IT. It didn't make a dent, to be honest, because nobody in US cares. Well, maybe Germany cares more, but that's a different story. And here we have MSI using this as an excuse to not pay a single dev. One dev. For over a year. This is ridiculous. He should've pulled the plug with first late pay and get a different job. This one company I have contract with is employing over 800 people from both Russia and Ukraine right now, and they don't have a problem paying any of them. This is just low from MSI.
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#49
Ruru
S.T.A.R.S.
Pretty hella stupid to mix politics to paying the guy for his job, just because of his nationality.
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#50
Chrispy_
If MSI still sold products in Russia, not paying him is a scumbag move.
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