Wednesday, February 8th 2023

Intel 11th Gen Core "Rocket Lake" Processors Now EOL and Discontinued in Latest PCN

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Intel 11th Gen Core "Rocket Lake" desktop processors in the Socket LGA1200 package, the first Intel desktop processor generation in five years to offer an IPC increase, has been marked EOL (end of life) and is formally discontinued from the company's product stack. This comes in the latest product-change notification (PCN), dated February 6, 2023, and is consistent with a normal product lifecycle for Intel. A product marked EOL and discontinued can no longer be ordered from Intel, although there are still plenty of 11th Gen Core processors in the market, which Intel will fully honor product warranties for; so those on entry-level 11th Gen processors such as the i5-11400 still have a certain amount of upgrade headroom to the 8-core i7-11700/K or the faster i9-11900/K. The PCN covers pretty much the entire 11th Gen Core desktop product stack.
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29 Comments on Intel 11th Gen Core "Rocket Lake" Processors Now EOL and Discontinued in Latest PCN

#1
Count von Schwalbe
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btarunrthe first desktop processor generation in five years to offer an IPC increase
From Intel.
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Count von Schwalbe
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ThrashZoneHi,
Good old EOL lakes :cool:
End-Of-Lake...
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#5
las
Count von SchwalbeFrom Intel.
IPC did not improve for a few years but clockspeeds and cores/threads did @ 8th, 9th and 10th gen

Everyone knew 11th gen was a skippable gen when it came out, people were waiting for 12th gen
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#6
P4-630
They still sell desktop/laptops with them to people who have no clue....
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#7
kondamin
P4-630They still sell desktop/laptops with them to people who have no clue....
Laptops had 10nm gen 10

And they can run the latest version of windows 11 so those people will be fine.
they even have avx512
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#8
Wirko
Any word from Intel regarding 10th gen desktop processors?
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#9
CyberCT
I bought an 11900K new with the COD MW2 package new for $285 last year. I couldn't say no to that deal. Yes a few threads can boost high at rediculous voltages and heat at stock but that's unnecessary. I run it at 4.8GHz all core at 1.21v. Passes all stress tests for hours while keeping the CPU nice and cool on a 120mm AIO in push/pull in a mITX case. It'll also do 5.1GHz all core at 1.33v but I honestly don't care about 1-2% more performance for that much more voltage and heat. Gsync display solves that problem. Don't have to worry about P-cores E-cores being misused in Windows 10 either.
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#10
TheinsanegamerN
P4-630They still sell desktop/laptops with them to people who have no clue....
There's nothing wrong with them, these are not AMD FX tier bad.

the 11900k was a meme, but the i3/i5/i7s were a decent deal, the per core performance is noticeably better over 8/9/10th, especially if you use AVX applications. The F series and locked skus are relatively efficient as well, not clocked to the moon like the K series.
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#11
P4-630
TheinsanegamerNThere's nothing wrong with them, these are not AMD FX tier bad.

the 11900k was a meme, but the i3/i5/i7s were a decent deal, the per core performance is noticeably better over 8/9/10th, especially if you use AVX applications. The F series and locked skus are relatively efficient as well, not clocked to the moon like the K series.
I call them "Skylake-refresh" since it's still all in 14nm....
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#12
Tomgang
So it is finally a complete goodbye to the 14 nm++++++++++ saga. Rocket lake was a bit of disappointment. Specially the fact that too model going from 10 gen 10 core to 11 gen 8 core as max.

I Will not be missing rocket lake.
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#13
Fouquin
P4-630I call them "Skylake-refresh" since it's still all in 14nm....
It's the first chip on 14nm since Broadwell that's actually NOT Skylake. Strange that you'd call it Skylake-refresh despite that. Cypress Cove shares its cores with Ice Lake on 10nm ported back to 14nm. It is a major step up from Skylake in every way, it just suffered from being stuffed into 14nm's restrictions.
kondaminLaptops had 10nm gen 10
Yep. Tiger Lake especially (11th gen mobile) was and still is quite good for the power/price. First architectural revision on 10nm to deliver a meaningful uplift via that substantial cache increase. Effectively still Ice Lake at the core level, but cache + fixed 10nm helped it along.
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#14
Selaya
FouquinIt's the first chip on 14nm since Broadwell that's actually NOT Skylake. Strange that you'd call it Skylake-refresh despite that. Cypress Cove shares its cores with Ice Lake on 10nm ported back to 14nm. It is a major step up from Skylake in every way, it just suffered from being stuffed into 14nm's restrictions.
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which kinda made them worse than SKL, in some form at the very least.
basically, wrong tool for the job - the fact that they got 10nm design work on 14nm tech at all is probably quite a feat in itself so yeah
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#15
Fouquin
Selayawhich kinda made them worse than SKL, in some form at the very least.
What made it worse was the price increasing 10% over 10th gen while being forced into being an 8-core part since it was almost at 300mm^2. The individual cores are faster, evidenced by basically every single review out there, but Intel torpedoed any chance Rocket Lake had of being considered against their own 10th gen and Zen 3.
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#16
AnotherReader
kondaminLaptops had 10nm gen 10

And they can run the latest version of windows 11 so those people will be fine.
they even have avx512
Ice Lake, i.e. gen 10, was a regression compared to the last iteration of Skylake, but Tiger Lake was pretty good.
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#17
Selaya
that too, but also the fact that it really guzzled power like a space heater also made it kind of a middling deal compared to SKL which in itself was no slouch when it came to power consumption

you always have to keep in mind
more power = more heat = better cooling required = higher platform costs &
more power = better vrms required = higher platform costs
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#18
Fouquin
AnotherReaderIce Lake, i.e. gen 10, was a regression compared to the last iteration of Skylake
From a pure performance standpoint, perhaps. Comet Lake in laptops was pushing 5.3GHz turbo clocks and sucking down 45-65W though while Ice Lake was at 12-25W and sub-4GHz turbo clocks. It makes sense that an architecture aiming to provide +18% IPC uplift would fail to overcome a chip with +35% clock speeds and double the power budget.

For a more realistic view of how Ice Lake improved go take a look at the Xeons. Ice Lake's biggest sin was being nearly 2 years late to market.
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#19
AnotherReader
FouquinFrom a pure performance standpoint, perhaps. Comet Lake in laptops was pushing 5.3GHz turbo clocks and sucking down 45-65W though while Ice Lake was at 12-25W and sub-4GHz turbo clocks. It makes sense that an architecture aiming to provide +18% IPC uplift would fail to overcome a chip with +35% clock speeds and double the power budget.

For a more realistic view of how Ice Lake improved go take a look at the Xeons. Ice Lake's biggest sin was being nearly 2 years late to market.
It wasn't just performance, but performance per watt. Of course, it wasn't the fault of Ice Lake's design. It was the sins of the 10 nm process designers. It's amazing how far 10 nm has come since then.

Chips and Cheese reviewed Rocket Lake's power consumption and found that
In moderate desktop power levels above 30W, Rocket Lake is the most efficient 14nm design. It shows that efficiency can be gained without a new process node, by using a larger, higher IPC core running at lower clocks. Unfortunately for Rocket Lake, this efficiency advantage only applies within a small window of power targets.
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#20
TheinsanegamerN
P4-630I call them "Skylake-refresh" since it's still all in 14nm....
While thats true for kaby lake, coffee lake, coffee lake V2, and comet lake, it isnt for rocket lake. Rocket had some under the hood changes that would become alder lake. It was their first IPC improvement since 2016.
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#21
AusWolf
lasIPC did not improve for a few years but clockspeeds and cores/threads did @ 8th, 9th and 10th gen

Everyone knew 11th gen was a skippable gen when it came out, people were waiting for 12th gen
I upgraded to an 11700 from a 7700, as I think it should happen. No one needs to upgrade every generation with such small IPC increases.
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#22
P4-630
AusWolfI upgraded to an 11700 from a 7700, as I think it should happen. No one needs to upgrade every generation with such small IPC increases.
I went from a i7 6700K Skylake to i7 12700K ALder Lake, glad I could wait that long because it was a worthy upgrade...
(waited for 10nm)
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#23
AusWolf
P4-630I went from a i7 6700K Skylake to i7 12700K ALder Lake, glad I could wait that long because it was a worthy upgrade...
(waited for 10nm)
A 6 generation gap is really a worthy upgrade. :) I don't understand people who swap CPUs every generation for 5% more IPC. Do people really have so much money to waste?
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#24
chrcoluk
Yeah coffee lake and older probably worth it performance wise.

The gap on last few years is far bigger than the gap from say sandy bridge to broadwell.
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#25
AusWolf
chrcolukYeah coffee lake and older probably worth it performance wise.

The gap on last few years is far bigger than the gap from say sandy bridge to broadwell.
Still not big enough to make upgrading every generation a sensible option, imo.
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