Wednesday, February 15th 2023

PSA: Corrosion Happening on ASUS ROG Z690 Formula VRM Block, Company Remains Silent

I've been using the ASUS ROG Z690 Formula motherboard in all my recent CPU water block reviews, and also detailed it here for a specific EK VRM bridge block article. While the board has reached end-of-life status at ASUS internally, the company's customers are only just starting to face problems. The board's unique selling point is that it comes with an optional CrossChill EK III hybrid VRM thermal solution, which is effectively a waterblock for your VRMs to keep them cool at all times. Based on ASUS's official advertisement of "nickel-plated" and EK's involvement, everybody assumed that the material used is nickel-plated copper, but it turns out it's something different, most probably nickel-plated aluminium.

This is not the first time that ASUS has failed the material mix in their watercooling products. The first generation ROG Formula motherboard VRM blocks used plated-aluminium that introduced corrosion when added to a watercooling loop that has copper/brass/steel components elsewhere. Mixing metals in a watercooling loop is a bad idea and will result in galvanic corrosion from the different electrochemical potential of the metals. This can result in the block etching off and flakes/chunks getting in the loop to create an increasingly worse reaction with the coolant used. This can lead to blocked channels and even pump failure due to the corroded materials jamming the impeller.
Multiple reports on watercooling communities have come out over the past couple of months about the VRM block in the ASUS Z690 Formula displaying clear signs of corrosion. Months went by without any official statement from either ASUS or EK and it took until ~10 days ago that a more popular such post finally got enough traction to make progress with the issue. Earlier today, EK sent out an email to those customers who purchased the VRM Bridge for the motherboard, to finally acknowledge the use of mixed metals in the VRM block. This revelation makes the block incompatible with any copper-based CPU block and even the very VRM bridge linking the two. EK has not yet mentioned how this could have slipped past the brand's attention until this point, given the company's logo is on the VRM block, but frankly ASUS merits more focus for not bothering to tell any of the undoubtedly thousands of customers who purchased the Z690 Formula motherboard, in addition to all the media partners who have been using it too. As it stands, EK suggests reaching out to your local ASUS support team for a working replacement, but so far it sure feels like this issue is being handled quietly to not get the word out as much as possible. If you are using this motherboard with the VRM waterblock, then my recommendation is to flush and clean the entire loop, replace the coolant, and remove the VRM block from your loop for the time being as the VRMs can still be air-cooled.

Here's the full contents of the EK email, provided to us by an affected TPU reader.
EK-Quantum Momentum² VRM Bridge ROG Incompatibility Announcement

Dear and valued EK Customer,

We regret to inform you that the ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z690 FORMULA motherboard is incompatible with our EK-Quantum Momentum² VRM Bridge ROG Maximus Z690 Formula solution, as well as other copper-based EK products.

We have developed the liquid distribution VRM Bridge solution to help our users get the full benefits from motherboards that feature CrossChill EK III hybrid VRM thermal solution by connecting any EK-Quantum Velocity² CPU water block directly to the VRM thermal water ports.

Unfortunately, EK and ASUS have discovered the issue of the VRM block corrosion. We are already working closely to address this issue and offer support to all affected customers.

ASUS is readying an adequate replacement hybrid VRM thermal solution for everyone affected by this issue. Feel free to reach out to your local ASUS support team for any additional information.

In the meantime, EK and ASUS are improving collaborative processes and development guardrails to ensure all future products exceed our customers' expectations.

We are genuinely sorry for any inconvenience this might be causing you.

We appreciate your understanding,
Team EK
Update Feb 15th 08:16 UTC:
TPU Forum member Trev shared the following photos of his watercooling setup after running just 10 weeks with the VRM block in the loop.
Sources: Report 1, Report 2, EK Email
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151 Comments on PSA: Corrosion Happening on ASUS ROG Z690 Formula VRM Block, Company Remains Silent

#26
ThrashZone
Hi,
EK's option is a all in one solution monoblock for a discounted price of 350.us :cool:
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#27
DrCR
ThrashZoneHi,
EK's option is a all in one solution monoblock for a discounted price of 350.us :cool:
Basically products for princes and want-a-be princes at this point?
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#28
terroralpha
I guess asus was just paying to plaster the EK logo on their products since it seems that they were the ones manufacturing them.
I had an asus x570 board with a Built in “EK” VRM water block. It started corroding within a few months. Fortunately the heatkiller CPU block I was using survived.
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#29
thesmokingman
DrCRBasically products for princes and want-a-be princes at this point?
Laughably, its not even a single piece of copper for that price.
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#30
Trev
Is mine ok? :)



The clean up required (and damage) from Asus/EK's incompetence was fairly extensive. 2 GPU blocks and CPU block requiring a deep-clean, several rounds of flushing. Everything is ok now after hours of wasted time, but the blocks are slightly permanently stained still.

Forgot one photo showing further disassembly of the VRM block.
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#31
Crackong
A few dollars of cheap out material nows turning into expensive PR issue
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#32
bobbybluz
TrevIs mine ok? :)



The clean up required (and damage) from Asus/EK's incompetence was fairly extensive. 2 GPU blocks and CPU block requiring a deep-clean, several rounds of flushing. Everything is ok now after hours of wasted time, but the blocks are slightly permanently stained still.

Forgot one photo showing further disassembly of the VRM block.
Damn! That thing looks seriously fux0red!
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#33
ir_cow
@Trev you know its not :). Hopefully ASUS honors the warranty.
CrackongA few dollars of cheap out material nows turning into expensive PR issue
I mean the fin-stacks are copper, just not the rest of it. Or it the other way around here?
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#34
Trev
ir_cow@Trev you know its not :). Hopefully ASUS honors the warranty.


I mean the fin-stacks are copper, just not the rest of it. Or it the other way around here?
Yeah, the little Chernobyl blobs gathering on my CPU were the first clue something was up. My system has lots of copper, so the issue developed quite quickly. I just hadn't bothered opening a case with Asus until now.

If I'm remembering correctly the fin stacks were coated or treated copper, the base of the block is all Alu. Soldered together with liquid flowing right through it. Genius work by Asus.
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#35
Outback Bronze
Pretty sure my board (if I had one) would have been fine with the coolant I use.

This is why I use it. Idiot proof. Haven't seen corrosion on any of my liquid cooling blocks for decades. Even mixing and matching metals.
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#36
Crackong
ir_cowI mean the fin-stacks are copper, just not the rest of it. Or it the other way around here?
Fin-stacks are copper , rest is Alu
They should made the whole thing with copper

1 pound of copper is $4
1 pound of Aluminium is $1

So they cheap-ed out $3 and $3 only....
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#37
Dirt Chip
Nasty.
Water inside a computer, generally a bad idea to avoid if possible.
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#38
Unregistered
Outback BronzePretty sure my board (if I had one) would have been fine with the coolant I use.

This is why I use it. Idiot proof. Haven't seen corrosion on any of my liquid cooling blocks for decades. Even mixing and matching metals.
Ethylene glycol is what I've used and even windshield washer fluid.

Just a shame to see that ugliness in people's rigs. I mean yeah, there's maintenance and some cleaning involved from coppers natural coating, but man. These pictures look horrible.
#39
beavermml
dgianstefaniCooler parts last longer.

If you're using a water chiller you can also start pushing 3-500 W on a delidded 13900K and get 6.2 GHz all core etc.
this motherboard will obsolete faster than when it fails anyway...
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#40
Outback Bronze
ShrimpBrimeEthylene glycol is what I've used
Im with you on that one matey ;)
ShrimpBrimeEthylene glycol
Did you know its good for the pumps too as it lubricates them?
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#41
goodeedidid
I think overclocking is something that is such a waste of money, especially for gaming. I guess it made sense in 2010 and earlier but now the returns are so small that it makes no sense even a little bit of sense.
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#42
Unregistered
Outback BronzeIm with you on that one matey ;)



Did you know its good for the pumps too as it lubricates them?
Yes actually.
Also good for some mild chilling ;)

I saw water in those pics above. Distilled by it'self just isn't enough.
goodeedididI think overclocking is something that is such a waste of money, especially for gaming. I guess it made sense in 2010 and earlier but now the returns are so small that it makes no sense even a little bit of sense.
LOL, no WAY this is possibly truthful.

OK, maybe not the cpu, but still got your GPU OC!!!
#43
watzupken
maxflyThat's flat out incompetence. Mixing metals is wcing 101. Yet these knuckleheads do it with their own blocks. Unfreakingbelievable.
I feel it is not that they are not aware, but a calculated decision from a cost standpoint. To them, I guess they are hoping that the corrosion won’t happen so quickly or widespread.
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#44
Patriot
TrevYeah, the little Chernobyl blobs gathering on my CPU were the first clue something was up. My system has lots of copper, so the issue developed quite quickly. I just hadn't bothered opening a case with Asus until now.

If I'm remembering correctly the fin stacks were coated or treated copper, the base of the block is all Alu. Soldered together with liquid flowing right through it. Genius work by Asus.
I am just sitting here wondering why they thought they could just submerge an aircooler... 0 WC knowledge exhibited here.
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#45
HaKN !
I mean , who's to blame here? Asus or EK ? Asus makes boards and orders the parts and EK makes the block ?
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#46
Steamroller
terroralphaI guess asus was just paying to plaster the EK logo on their products since it seems that they were the ones manufacturing them.
I had an asus x570 board with a Built in “EK” VRM water block. It started corroding within a few months. Fortunately the heatkiller CPU block I was using survived.
It's my bet as well. EKs products have warnings on every single copper product saying not to mix metals. When they launched the aluminum kits, they were really heavy on the Mixing metal campaign,
and they even wrote one of the best blogs about mixing metals in a loop. So, Im guessing they are not that stupid. At least EK notified the public about the issue.
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#47
Broken Processor
This has been a industry problem for 20+ years. I remember my zalman reserator base was anodised aluminium and corroded very fast. A sales guy at ocuk to me to use a plant based liquid. So I had the base refinished and used xspc plant based liquid and never had the problem again. I still use that same liquid today.
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#48
Trev
This is the GPU blocks after flushing with demineralized water for a few days. They obviously needed disassembly and a lot of scrubbing. That blue copper crud is a huge pain.
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#49
Ownedtbh
Is there so much profit to be made changing copper to Aluminium?

also: can anyone tell me the taste/smell of this stuff?
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#50
zlobby
Ah, EK. No need to read further.
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