Wednesday, February 15th 2023

PSA: Corrosion Happening on ASUS ROG Z690 Formula VRM Block, Company Remains Silent

I've been using the ASUS ROG Z690 Formula motherboard in all my recent CPU water block reviews, and also detailed it here for a specific EK VRM bridge block article. While the board has reached end-of-life status at ASUS internally, the company's customers are only just starting to face problems. The board's unique selling point is that it comes with an optional CrossChill EK III hybrid VRM thermal solution, which is effectively a waterblock for your VRMs to keep them cool at all times. Based on ASUS's official advertisement of "nickel-plated" and EK's involvement, everybody assumed that the material used is nickel-plated copper, but it turns out it's something different, most probably nickel-plated aluminium.

This is not the first time that ASUS has failed the material mix in their watercooling products. The first generation ROG Formula motherboard VRM blocks used plated-aluminium that introduced corrosion when added to a watercooling loop that has copper/brass/steel components elsewhere. Mixing metals in a watercooling loop is a bad idea and will result in galvanic corrosion from the different electrochemical potential of the metals. This can result in the block etching off and flakes/chunks getting in the loop to create an increasingly worse reaction with the coolant used. This can lead to blocked channels and even pump failure due to the corroded materials jamming the impeller.
Multiple reports on watercooling communities have come out over the past couple of months about the VRM block in the ASUS Z690 Formula displaying clear signs of corrosion. Months went by without any official statement from either ASUS or EK and it took until ~10 days ago that a more popular such post finally got enough traction to make progress with the issue. Earlier today, EK sent out an email to those customers who purchased the VRM Bridge for the motherboard, to finally acknowledge the use of mixed metals in the VRM block. This revelation makes the block incompatible with any copper-based CPU block and even the very VRM bridge linking the two. EK has not yet mentioned how this could have slipped past the brand's attention until this point, given the company's logo is on the VRM block, but frankly ASUS merits more focus for not bothering to tell any of the undoubtedly thousands of customers who purchased the Z690 Formula motherboard, in addition to all the media partners who have been using it too. As it stands, EK suggests reaching out to your local ASUS support team for a working replacement, but so far it sure feels like this issue is being handled quietly to not get the word out as much as possible. If you are using this motherboard with the VRM waterblock, then my recommendation is to flush and clean the entire loop, replace the coolant, and remove the VRM block from your loop for the time being as the VRMs can still be air-cooled.

Here's the full contents of the EK email, provided to us by an affected TPU reader.
EK-Quantum Momentum² VRM Bridge ROG Incompatibility Announcement

Dear and valued EK Customer,

We regret to inform you that the ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z690 FORMULA motherboard is incompatible with our EK-Quantum Momentum² VRM Bridge ROG Maximus Z690 Formula solution, as well as other copper-based EK products.

We have developed the liquid distribution VRM Bridge solution to help our users get the full benefits from motherboards that feature CrossChill EK III hybrid VRM thermal solution by connecting any EK-Quantum Velocity² CPU water block directly to the VRM thermal water ports.

Unfortunately, EK and ASUS have discovered the issue of the VRM block corrosion. We are already working closely to address this issue and offer support to all affected customers.

ASUS is readying an adequate replacement hybrid VRM thermal solution for everyone affected by this issue. Feel free to reach out to your local ASUS support team for any additional information.

In the meantime, EK and ASUS are improving collaborative processes and development guardrails to ensure all future products exceed our customers' expectations.

We are genuinely sorry for any inconvenience this might be causing you.

We appreciate your understanding,
Team EK
Update Feb 15th 08:16 UTC:
TPU Forum member Trev shared the following photos of his watercooling setup after running just 10 weeks with the VRM block in the loop.
Sources: Report 1, Report 2, EK Email
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151 Comments on PSA: Corrosion Happening on ASUS ROG Z690 Formula VRM Block, Company Remains Silent

#76
Dammeron
damricThe problem must be the nickel + aluminum.
Nah, the problem is copper + aluminium. You can't mix 2 dissimilar materials without any corrosion inhibitors, otherwise You create a galvanic cell.
Chrispy_Since forever. Google "nickel plating to prevent corrosion" rather than taking my word for it.

Nickel plating is essential for any aluminium parts in contact with water because aluminium has a very high anodic index which means galvanic and electrolytic corrosion are guaranteed if there are low-anodic metals like brass, copper, nickel in the loop. You won't find many AIOs with all-aluminium parts. The CPU block is almost always copper, even in cheap AIOs and the fittings are typically brass.

Additionally, nickel may look nice, but that's a bonus rather than its purpose; It's used extensively in places that you'll never ever see such as the base plate for air coolers, sealed, all-black waterblocks like my Alphacool one that have no plexi windows, internal fittings and elbow joints in both opaque-tubing custom loops and AIOs.

Typically, the only place you DON'T see nickel is in aluminium radiators of cheap, disposable AIOs. The loop will corrode but high glycol content of the relatively low fluid volumes means that the corrosion is slow enough for the AIO to survive its warranty period. It's an ugly truth of the AIO industry and there's no shortage of articles around the web and youtube where people cut open old AIOs to show the corrosion after a few years.
I meant PC watercooling specifically. Nickel plating there is purely for aesthetics.
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#77
mechtech
I’ll stick to air cooling. Thanks
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#78
ThrashZone
mechtechI’ll stick to air cooling. Thanks
Hi,
Yeah funny thing about these vrm blocks is they work without water to.
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#79
Sabishii Hito
ThrashZoneAsus isn't doing custom loops though only AIO's
They don't even make those themselves, Asetek does.
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#80
ThrashZone
Hi,
This is one of the biggest reasons I love plexi/ acrylic tops
You can see what's going on inside without disassembly :cool:
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#81
zlobby
damricThe problem must be the nickel + aluminum.

In my main rig I have nickel plated copper, copper rad, and silver coil and it's fine for years.

In all of my folding rigs I have very cheap aluminum radiators and even cheaper copper blocks (thank you China), no nickel plating, silver coil.

For fluid it's distilled with a drop of Prestone (ethylene glycol).

People hate on silver coils but they also act as sacrificial anode to help prevent galvanic, with the downside that they eventually stain everything black, especially tubing.
Pure copper and silver should not stain anything. At least not with distilled and deionized water, and with no other additives. Often people confuse distilled water with deionized one.
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#82
damric
zlobbyPure copper and silver should not stain anything. At least not with distilled and deionized water, and with no other additives. Often people confuse distilled water with deionized one.
When silver oxidizes, it turns black. This oxide layer is swept away into the loop. This is known.
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#83
Kindachi
ChaitanyaA: EK designed the block but based on specifications from Shitsus and on budget/unit targets for design.
B: EK manufactured the block based on strict designs and specifications provided by Shitsus and EK selected as they provided lowest possible bid.
C: EK just consulted on design and label was slapped so Shitsus could overcharge for EK label.
I had to read your comment a few times, because I initially thought you referred to some third party company whose name evoked the Shih Tzu dog breed.
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#84
Chrispy_
DammeronI meant PC watercooling specifically. Nickel plating there is purely for aesthetics.
Once again, no.

I just gave you list of PC watercooling examples where it wasn't purely for aesthetics. How can it be about aesthetics if the nickel plating is not visible because of black tubing and black acetal?

Outside of PC watercooling it's also used in automotive and marine applications deep inside the engine or below the waterline where it will never be seen.
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#85
thesmokingman
Chrispy_Once again, no.

I just gave you list of PC watercooling examples where it wasn't purely for aesthetics. How can it be about aesthetics if the nickel plating is not visible because of black tubing and black acetal?

Outside of PC watercooling it's also used in automotive and marine applications deep inside the engine or below the waterline where it will never be seen.
It isn't used in pc watercooling for anything but aesthetics. In other applications like auto sure, but pc watercooling its for looks. We've already been thru this all years ago from the Ek debacle.
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#86
Chrispy_
thesmokingmanIt isn't used in pc watercooling for anything but aesthetics. In other applications like auto sure, but pc watercooling its for looks. We've already been thru this all years ago from the Ek debacle.
Link?
Explain nickel plated waterblocks and fittings that are hidden behind covers or sleeves? Why go to the bother and aditional cost of nickel plating things that aren't visible in your loop?
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#87
Patriot
Chrispy_Once again, no.

I just gave you list of PC watercooling examples where it wasn't purely for aesthetics. How can it be about aesthetics if the nickel plating is not visible because of black tubing and black acetal?

Outside of PC watercooling it's also used in automotive and marine applications deep inside the engine or below the waterline where it will never be seen.
Electroplating is not corrosion resistant, it is for looks. There are chemical bonding methods that are corrosion resistant and things like cerakote, but only a handful of pc water-cooling companies use them because they are more expensive. I only know 1 that uses chemical nickel plating and they warranty their blocks for 10yrs with salt-water... everyone else requires anti-corrosive fluids or voided warranty for a reason.

Edit after Thrash and smoking like:
optimuspc.com/ <chemical and cerakote
modultra.com/shop/ols/products/modultra-lobo <cerakote
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#88
ThrashZone
Hi,
Yeah ek always says don't mix metals
They also say warranty void if you only use distilled water and not purpose fluids
It would be ironic if ek did all the aluminum/ nickel plating on these vrm blocks :slap:

From what I've read it's the shin that says the nickel plating is not good.
I have no idea if that is true on not.
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#89
goodeedidid
ShrimpBrimeYes actually.
Also good for some mild chilling ;)

I saw water in those pics above. Distilled by it'self just isn't enough.


LOL, no WAY this is possibly truthful.

OK, maybe not the cpu, but still got your GPU OC!!!
Yeah but they make the GPUs already OCed. I mean if you spend hundreds of $$$ more for water cooling solutions how much performance do you gain to the dollar? 2% 3% more performance?
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#90
Unregistered
goodeedididYeah but they make the GPUs already OCed. I mean if you spend hundreds of $$$ more for water cooling solutions how much performance do you gain to the dollar? 2% 3% more performance?
I do competitive benchmarking.
Ok So, there are more than 2%_3% gains,
When overclocking more than just a cpu, or just a gpu.

A total system overclock generally can increase average performance gains over 10%, but we also need to remember how we would take these measurements.

In some applications, sure, maybe single digit performance gains. But usually just setting the XMP, which is overclocking, gains at least single digit gains.

Everyone's doing it. XMP alone strictly speaking. Should we all just run defaults?? No.
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#91
Chrispy_
PatriotElectroplating is not corrosion resistant, it is for looks. There are chemical bonding methods that are corrosion resistant and things like cerakote, but only a handful of pc water-cooling companies use them because they are more expensive. I only know 1 that uses chemical nickel plating and they warranty their blocks for 10yrs with salt-water... everyone else requires anti-corrosive fluids or voided warranty for a reason.

Edit after Thrash and smoking like:
optimuspc.com/ <chemical and cerakote
modultra.com/shop/ols/products/modultra-lobo <cerakote
Happy to stand corrected.
It still doesn't explain why opaque/acetal blocks come nickel-plated but perhaps they share product lines with clear blocks for show and it's just easier that way.
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#92
ThrashZone
Chrispy_Happy to stand corrected.
It still doesn't explain why opaque/acetal blocks come nickel-plated but perhaps they share product lines with clear blocks for show and it's just easier that way.
Hi,
Assembly line dude
You'd think just leaving them copper would be cheaper but nope they have to justify to cost of the item as lookie here bling inside :laugh:

Optimus does do it right but they out sourse the nickel plating
So they to have had issues with the plating coming off.
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#93
Dammeron
Chrispy_Happy to stand corrected.
It still doesn't explain why opaque/acetal blocks come nickel-plated but perhaps they share product lines with clear blocks for show and it's just easier that way.
No prob, that's what forums are for - discussing. :)

As for why they nickel-plate the blocks with acetal tops - You don't have to worry about oxydizing and patina, so it's easier to handle without gloves. And GPU fullcovers are seen from the side - some people prefer silver over orange.
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#94
ThrashZone
Hi,
Plus some people use liquid metal timm and it don't do so great on copper after a while.

Pretty wild what LM does to aluminum :laugh:
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#95
thesmokingman
DammeronNo prob, that's what forums are for - discussing. :)

As for why they nickel-plate the blocks with acetal tops - You don't have to worry about oxydizing and patina, so it's easier to handle without gloves. And GPU fullcovers are seen from the side - some people prefer silver over orange.
...because nickel/chrome shiny is purty.
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#96
Gmr_Chick
I'm beginning to wonder if the MSI X EK boards suffer from this same corrosion issue. The Carbon EK, I think that board is called.
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#97
Steamroller
Gmr_ChickI'm beginning to wonder if the MSI X EK boards suffer from this same corrosion issue. The Carbon EK, I think that board is called.
No, they don't because the monoblocks are made at EK. You can see the same design and production techniques used on every other EK monoblock...
Which is not visible on any of these Formula VRM blocks. And if it was the case, they would have already shown some issues of corrosion.
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#98
Gmr_Chick
SteamrollerNo, they don't because the monoblocks are made at EK. You can see the same design and production techniques used on every other EK monoblock...
Which is not visible on any of these Formula VRM blocks.
And if it was the case, they would have already shown some issues of corrosion.
Asus cheaped out, in other words. Typical. :shadedshu:
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#99
axiumone
I hope whatever asus paid to license the ek logo was enough, because now both of the companies look at best completely incompetent and at worst malicious towards their customers.
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#100
Chaitanya
KindachiI had to read your comment a few times, because I initially thought you referred to some third party company whose name evoked the Shih Tzu dog breed.
brachycephalic dogs are horrible even worse than worst of PC industry.
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