They should actually just release a real current generation competitor.... Not like the bar is super high.

oxrufiioxoThey should actually just release a real current generation competitor....

They'll certainly release a current generation option. I'm not too hopeful about real competition this generation. Looks like AMD is being attracted to the "not as good but cheaper" rut it consistently finds itself in.

Hopefully this changes next generation, fingers crossed some of that Zen money makes it's way over to R&D.

Mindshare is as important as performance, and there needs to be something compelling from team red, delivered on time not six months or a year later, with equivalent software following suit.

idk, these prices have been the same for 2 months now on newegg. Not a new price drop. More like firesale to dump 6000 series stock.

dgianstefaniThey'll certainly release a current generation option. I'm not too hopeful about real competition this generation. Looks like AMD is being attracted to the "not as good but cheaper" rut it consistently finds itself in.

Hopefully this changes next generation, fingers crossed some of that Zen money makes it's way over to R&D.

idk the lower down the stack amd is usually more competitive they get typically. Word on the street is the non chiplet RDNA3 chips might be better than expected. like with anything I take this with a grain of salt but I'm hopeful they are at least more competitive with the 4050/4060/4060ti

Hopefully they release the 7800XT very soon, at the latest in june, with perf on par with 6950XT for <=550$. Otherwise it's just a bust from both sides.

3x0Hopefully they release the 7800XT very soon, at the latest in june, with perf on par with 6950XT for <=550$. Otherwise it's just a bust from both sides.

Although I agree with you going by techspot numbers that would make the 7900XT only 10% faster at 1440p making it DOA for 800+ usd.


Maybe 6900XT like performance for 500 usd with 16GB of vram that would give the 7900XT just enough breathing room.

Yup, got my relative performances off compared to 7900XT. Although, the 6900XT vs 6800XT was a similar performance gap for a lot less money, no?

Given that the current trend is to have halo products be the better perf/dollar card, nothing can surprise me...

oxrufiioxoidk the lower down the stack amd is usually more competitive they get typically. Word on the street is the non chiplet RDNA3 chips might be better than expected. like with anything I take this with a grain of salt but I'm hopeful they are at least more competitive with the 4050/4060/4060ti

Debauer did a piece on the frequency headroom of RDNA3 and it's pretty huge so maybe will see that have a larger impact on the lower end. Who knows though, with the way AMD has been doing things in the GPU market is appears likely that it'll price it's products according to Nvidia's pricing structure so I don't see a win for consumers regardless.

I wince remembering paying $1100 for my 6800XT back in Feb of 2021. :fear:
I'm still happy with the card, but those were tough times that I'm glad are behind us.

Divide OverflowI wince remembering paying $1100 for my 6800XT back in Feb of 2021. :fear:
I'm still happy with the card, but those were tough times that I'm glad are behind us.

I got mine in Oct 2021 for $1500 then sold my RX580 for $500

Even with the crap gpu pricing I'm still happy those times are over. 1400 usd for my FTW 3080ti was a joke.... I did get 850 usd for a titan Xp though so there is that at least.

oxrufiioxoThey should actually just release a real current generation competitor.... Not like the bar is super high.

Is that going to bring anything to the table besides better energy efficiency? The 40xx cards haven't done anything to move the existing price/performance curve and the 6xxx cards already occupy appropriate positions along it.

MrDweezilIs that going to bring anything to the table besides better energy efficiency? The 40xx cards haven't done anything to move the existing price/performance curve and the 6xxx cards already occupy appropriate positions along it.

Just hoping they decide to not just meet Nvidia's bar while having an arguably worse feature set but raise the bar in the 500-600 usd range. I'm not holding my breath with what they tried with the 7900XT but hopefully AMD read the room it's not like the bar is very high with the RTX 4070 it offers good power consumption and DLSS3 and that is basically it.

Wow, almost $500 for a RX 6800, we should all be so thankful AMD are around to keep prices in check said no one ever.

20% lower price but 6800 is on average 30% slower in games with ray tracing than 4070 and it can only use FSR. I would say it's at best a comparable value

funny that reviews here listed it at $450

H4zelnut20% lower price but 6800 is on average 30% slower in games with ray tracing than 4070 and it can only use FSR. I would say it's at best a comparable value

Ray tracing is not that necessary for those who don't go for 100% everything ultra-maxed.

ChryRay tracing is not that necessary for those who don't go for 100% everything ultra-maxed.

the same can be said about 4k resolution and VRAM

The W7800 was just announced with 70 compute units and 32GB of Vram.... Something similar with 16GB of vram could be the 7800XT That's a bigger cut down than going from the 7900XTX to the 7900XT though so who knows what performance will look like. Definitely lower than 6950XT though most likely.

Anyone know how long it takes for prices of new GPUs to 'settle down' after they're released? I assume the price is highest just after release (because of the novelty)? Does it usually become any significantly lower after a few months?

ChryAnyone know how long it takes for prices of new GPUs to 'settle down' after they're released? I assume the price is highest just after release (because of the novelty)? Does it usually become any significantly lower after a few months?

Depends, amd gpu prices seem to drop faster than Nvidia. We usually don't see an Nvidia price drop unless the current model is getting replaced by a higher tier sku or a new generation is coming soon.

Even Turing cards that most people didn't like at least internet warriors didn't drop much if at all in price and even the 2070/2080 that people liked the least just got refreshed with super variants and semi phased out although you could get decent deals on both for a while. I'm not so sure the 2060 was as hated it at least offered 1080 like performance and even though it came with 6GB of vram that was mostly ok at the time it also got a super refresh though and dropped a little to 300 usd ish.

Both AMD's current generation cards have dropped under MSRP already how much further who knows. You can also find a 4080 ventus model for around 20 usd under MSRP which is kinda surprising to me of all the ADA cards it was the one I thought would drop the most due to the 7900XTX being seemingly popular and ballpark in raster but Nvidia still seems to be holding prices better as usual I guess.

ChryAnyone know how long it takes for prices of new GPUs to 'settle down' after they're released? I assume the price is highest just after release (because of the novelty)? Does it usually become any significantly lower after a few months?

the last few years were total chaos with graphics cards because of the Crypto-mining and cards were selling for double the recommended price, it's hard to tell what the situation is going to look like this time but don't expect to save more than 100 USD

oxrufiioxoThe W7800 was just announced with 70 compute units and 32GB of Vram.... Something similar with 16GB of vram could be the 7800XT That's a bigger cut down than going from the 7900XTX to the 7900XT though so who knows what performance will look like. Definitely lower than 6950XT though most likely.

Interesting. My bet is the 7800XT being a fully enabled N32 with 4096 Cores (64 CUs), but with hopefully noticeably higher clock speeds than N31. 4096/6144=66% of Compute Units, but at a higher clock, just enough to slot it in between 6900XT and 6950XT.

The sad thing is AMD won't have mid-tier cards out until July at earliest. Even worse 7700XT which is the 6600XT replacement is only targeting 4060 Ti not even 4070. 7800XT is not even as fast as 4070 Ti according to internal leaks.

Anyway 6800XT is best bang for the buck and what I got to replace a 1080 Ti. I'm skipping this gen entirely and waiting to see RDNA4, Blackwell and Battlemage. If Intel csn deliver on the promise of hitting 4080 performance at say 40% less it would be worth a look. If rumors re to believed 5090 is getting massive price rise as Nvidia will be paying 50% more per wafer for TSMC 3nm vs current 4nm they are using. Lovelace is just getting us ready for more sticker shock.

oxrufiioxoDepends, amd gpu prices seem to drop faster than Nvidia. We usually don't see an Nvidia price drop unless the current model is getting replaced by a higher tier sku or a new generation is coming soon.

Even Turing cards that most people didn't like at least internet warriors didn't drop much if at all in price and even the 2070/2080 that people liked the least just got refreshed with super variants and semi phased out although you could get decent deals on both for a while. I'm not so sure the 2060 was as hated it at least offered 1080 like performance and even though it came with 6GB of vram that was mostly ok at the time it also got a super refresh though and dropped a little to 300 usd ish.

Both AMD's current generation cards have dropped under MSRP already how much further who knows. You can also find a 4080 ventus model for around 20 usd under MSRP which is kinda surprising to me of all the ADA cards it was the one I thought would drop the most due to the 7900XTX being seemingly popular and ballpark in raster but Nvidia still seems to be holding prices better as usual I guess.

Thanks, good to hear amd prices tend to lower a bit. Would like to get a 7700xt/7800xt this summer.

Minus Infinity7800XT is not even as fast as 4070 Ti according to internal leaks.

I was under the impression the 7900XT was supposed to tackle the 4070Ti, albeit launched with a wrong price (+100$ over)